Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVIII: This could be a banner year, but how would we know?

[Chuck Schwartz]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey Vol. XXVIII: This could be a banner year, but how would we know?

Oof. That one hurt to watch. My expert analysis: If they played the whole game like they did at the end, things would have been so much better. Things looked lazy at times.

My yelling muscles were tired tonight, and there were a lot of newbies who picked up student tickets. It meant more work for the regulars, but I'm always happy for new people to get into it, even if they're not booing on the PK...they'll change. Even so, Wisconsin should have put forth a winning effort, even if they were at the Shell.

Am I the only one who hates the booing on the PK? That started what, 3-4 years ago? I just don't like it.

 

[WisconsinWildcard]

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Am I the only one who hates the booing on the PK? That started what, 3-4 years ago? I just don't like it.

In my experience as a student ticket holder, it used to only happen when the penalty was a "really bad call." Near the end of my crease creature tenure (11), more people were doing it every PK.

I do not like it either.

 

[WiscDC]

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Am I the only one who hates the booing on the PK? That started what, 3-4 years ago? I just don't like it.

When all the students are there, even this year, it creates a big wall of noise while the other team is handling the puck in the zone, so I like it. They're smart about it, switching to cheers as soon as they regain possession.

Edit: To clarify, I see it as a kind of "we don't like you" message to the opposing offense.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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In my experience as a student ticket holder, it used to only happen when the penalty was a "really bad call."

Well there you go. If we're on the pk it was obviously a "really bad call."

 

[WiscDC]

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Well there you go. If we're on the pk it was obviously a "really bad call."

Which is a real shame, because I like to smile and wave at the refs as they enter the rink!

 

[WisconsinWildcard]

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Well there you go. If we're on the pk it was obviously a "really bad call."

You have me there

For me, I remember the few penalties that the Kohl Center booed for the entire duration and it seemed special. But then again, those were the days that the 3rd deck was full.

 

[WisconsinWildcard]

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You have me there

For me, I remember the few penalties that the Kohl Center booed for the entire duration and it seemed special. But then again, those were the days that the 3rd deck was full.

blah blah blah...mumble...nostalgia

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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blah blah blah...mumble...nostalgia

Well back in my day, we didn't play games like we played tonight. Back then we kicked *** and took names and had a blue line club and banners and ... sorry, hang on.. brb.

**** kids are on my lawn again.

 

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

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Am I the only one who hates the booing on the PK? That started what, 3-4 years ago? I just don't like it.

That goes back to shortly after the 2006 title or so. Maybe even earlier.

I agree that it's not great, but it does create a lot of random noise while the opposing PP is working and I like it for that.

I tried thinking of a better PK cheer in my days as a Creature, but never thought of anything that was worth trying.

 

[Bonin21]

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The 2011 Frozen Four was my first exposure to the Michigan fans during the PK, and I wanted to shoot myself. Just don't do that.

 

[EasternBadger]

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So, I know last nights effort was pretty poor, and I also know that Eaves and the training staff are obviously much more informed than me, some random guy on the internet, but boy am I not sure it's worth it to rush Kerdiles back.

 

[Timothy A]

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So, I know last nights effort was pretty poor, and I also know that Eaves and the training staff are obviously much more informed than me, some random guy on the internet, but boy am I not sure it's worth it to rush Kerdiles back.

I agree. I know UW is like 4-8 or something like that without him, but these guys have to be able to beat UAA w/o him. At that rate UW won't win 10 games next year w/o him and the rest of the srs who are leaving.

I too dislike the booing during the pk. I will only do it if the call is horribly bad.

It was disclosed on the TV broadcast that PB and Howie will be doing the radio for the UM game next week as a one time special. That will be awesome. There's no hockey color guy who is any better than Howie. There's a lot of great memories associated with those two and UW hockey for me.

Andringa even commented about the poor attendance and said that UW has to do something bout it to get them back to the glory years.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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This team is running out of time to come together.

Should have leadership in place by now so an effort like last night's doesn't happen. Not saying that they shouldn't ever lose a game, but they should at least show up each time.

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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Waking up today still at a loss for an explanation of last night's game. In hockey, just pointing to 'effort' is often an equivocal explanation as it is not simply a matter of players not trying, or not wanting to win. Everyone wants to win, but it's much more complicated than that. Easy for me to say in retrospect that I didn't like the line shuffling going into the game, especially taking apart the top line (I'm just as guilty in thinking it wouldn't matter as anyone.) but the question has to be asked, would we have moved LaBate and started Petey if we were playing Michigan last night? I wonder... And I wonder what message that sent to the boys going in, if any. It's surprising to me, especially considering coming off a somewhat lackluster game last Saturday. Like I said, easy now, but it seemed infinitely more sensible going in to simply move Dahl up between Besse and Mersch, put Keegan in the middle of Navin and Soleway and cobble together a 4th for very limited shifts. Good ol' hindsight.

I thought Zengerle played pretty well as did Besse. McCabe played alright, although he really seemed to be pressing and mishandled some pucks in the offensive zone. Beyond that, not much to write home about.

Of course tonight we'll have Kerdiles back, and while random internet guy Eastern Badger questions it (sensibly) this team appears to be in desperate need of Kerdiles in the line up.

While our upcoming games against Michigan, OSU, and Minnesota are going to tell the tale of this season, a sweep this weekend would have put us pounding on the door of the top 7 in RPI and PWR, but now we are needing a win tonight to stay around 12. Without a dramatic turnaround tonight, I shudder to think what Michigan's pace of play will bring next week. I had hoped our big lessons in Character were learned, apparently not, but here's a great opportunity to get it right.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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Oh yeah, and the student section is in the hands of the current students.

I think they're doing great and if they want to change things up, it's their right. Some things will work, some won't. Either way, it's theirs to do as they see fit.

And to be honest, back in the "glory days" when the KC was full, I barely ever noticed or paid attention to the students - other than between periods. They were just a part of the overall experience and were somewhat marginalized (compared to now) by the rest of the crowd who were engaged with a quality product on the ice.

The students are far more noticeable now as there is no one else in the building.


Being in the student section was probably a blast and undoubtedly is the source of many great memories, but don't oversell the importance.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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Waking up today still at a loss for an explanation of last night's game. In hockey, just pointing to 'effort' is often an equivocal explanation as it is not simply a matter of players not trying, or not wanting to win. Everyone wants to win, but it's much more complicated than that.

However you want to describe it, the team wasn't ready to play. At this point in the season, that's an indictment on the leadership, whether it be the captains, upper classmen or coaching.

For whatever reason, these guys are struggling to reach the potential that many (including myself) thought they had.

And time is running out. Runs like lasts year's just don't happen all that often and eventually, you simply are what you are.


If nothing changes from here on out, we are a decent team. Nothing more and will struggle to qualify for the NCAAs.

And Eaves needs to be fired if we miss with this group of talent.

 

[Gurtholfin]

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Am I the only one who hates the booing on the PK? That started what, 3-4 years ago? I just don't like it.

Yeah, this is about the very least of my concerns surrounding this program.

And fwiw, it doesn't bother me at all.

 

[Timothy A]

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but the question has to be asked, would we have moved LaBate and started Petey if we were playing Michigan last night? I wonder...

I think it's likely Petey would have started, but it would have been less likely to move LaBate. I think in making the moves Eaves did, he essentially told the players to take UAA lightly. "We can juggle the line-up and start our #2 goalie and still win." It was painfully obvious in the first period there was virtually no chemistry in the lines.

Let's not overlook the goal Barnes scored was another dandy.

 

[Chuck Schwartz]

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I don't buy into the LaBate move having a mental effect on last night's performance. And if it did, this team is (insert bad f word here).

 

[solovsfett]

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However you want to describe it, the team wasn't ready to play. At this point in the season, that's an indictment on the leadership, whether it be the captains, upper classmen or coaching.

For whatever reason, these guys are struggling to reach the potential that many (including myself) thought they had.

And time is running out. Runs like lasts year's just don't happen all that often and eventually, you simply are what you are.


If nothing changes from here on out, we are a decent team. Nothing more and will struggle to qualify for the NCAAs.

And Eaves needs to be fired if we miss with this group of talent.

...I've said before I don't think this team overall is that talented (sure there are some talented players but as a whole?) but was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt after being shouted down by a few posters...I don't want to overreact to one game, UW lost to what is allegedly an inferior team and they lost at home. If moving Labate and starting Peterson, playing w/out Kerdiles are all reasons why they lost Chuck is right and this team is ****ed. It would also bear out my initial thoughts 1-2 years ago about this group if one guy means that much to them.

When you get a chance watch the 2006, 1992 or 1990 NCAA Title games in their entirety. Now watch this current team. Fellas, UW is several players short THIS SEASON of making a deep playoff run. I can't imagine how screwed they'll be next year. And I'm going to cut no slack, absolutely no slack; to Eaves and Company for losing games with freshman next year. It was their job to turn the ship around and maintain it at a high level. This is the final year of "benefit of the doubt" that I give them.

also...where are the forward recruits for next season?