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Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow

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Carter said:
Yeah, like the UP, Duluth was probably stolen from us somewhere back there in the mists of time.
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I believe that it's also known up there as a suburb of Superior. ;)

So... if it's part of the Superior metro area, it's part of Superior. And Superior is part of Wisconsin, therefore Duluth is for all intents and purposes IN Wisconsin.

Go Dawgs! :)




Got my hook in the water....
 
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FWIW, I'm all in for Duluth...

What's the over/under on the number of times the Michigan band plays The Victors and the Notre Dame band plays the Notre Dame Victory March? Two fight songs I absolutely despise.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
I believe that it's also known up there as a suburb of Superior. ;)

So... if it's part of the Superior metro area, it's part of Superior. And Superior is part of Wisconsin, therefore Duluth is for all intents and purposes IN Wisconsin.

Go Dawgs! :)

Got my hook in the water....
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If that were the case, I would have to kill myself, probably gangland style.
 
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Dalangalang said:
FWIW, I'm all in for Duluth...

What's the over/under on the number of times the Michigan band plays The Victors and the Notre Dame band plays the Notre Dame Victory March? Two fight songs I absolutely despise.
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As far as "The Victors" goes, it's a lot more fun if you know the right words and sing your heart out. ;)
 
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Carter said:
There's only three teams in the country with more titles than the Badgers, right? And two of them are in the frozen four. No way I can pull for someone to build that lead, so I'm left with Notre Dame or Duluth. Notre Dame??? Seriously??? Can't be done. If nothing else, conference loyalty insists that I chuck all my eggs in UMD's basket and go for broke.
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Buck 'em said:
No brainer - UMD. I just can't gin up the same amount of hate for them I can for the other three.
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Yup. This.

Carter said:
Yeah, like the UP, Duluth was probably stolen from us somewhere back there in the mists of time.
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(Nerd Alert)

I believe that at one point, the Wisconsin Territory did include all lands west up to the Mississippi... so it's actually possible.

Carter said:
As far as "The Victors" goes, it's a lot more fun if you know the right words and sing your heart out. ;)
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Hail! To those pederasts...
 
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Boom! Well, I guess my rooting interest has changed. Semis I'll still cheer for both WCHA schools, but here's hoping for a tUMD championchip!

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(actually, Grand Forks probably isn't too far west of that boundary, is it?)
 
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I notice that Bismarck, the center of north Dakota government, is smack in the middle of UNORGANIZED TERRITORY still.
 
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aktick said:
Boom! Well, I guess my rooting interest has changed. Semis I'll still cheer for both WCHA schools, but here's hoping for a tUMD championchip!

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(actually, Grand Forks probably isn't too far west of that boundary, is it?)
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So, looking at this, why did Iowa and Wisconsin allow Minnesota to secede? Could have saved a lot of trouble...
 
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burd said:
I notice that Bismarck, the center of north Dakota government, is smack in the middle of UNORGANIZED TERRITORY still.
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Looks like Grand Forks is in Iowa. THAT explains a lot. :p
 
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Why did we give that arrowhead of gophersota to them? I didn't know at one time I could have avoided rodentia and stayed in Wisconsin all the way to International Falls. :p
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Yup. This.

(Nerd Alert)

I believe that at one point, the Wisconsin Territory did include all lands west up to the Mississippi... so it's actually possible.

Hail! To those pederasts...
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Very nerdish, but very correct. I've been reading How the States Got Their Shape and just read Wisconsin yesterday. The original WI territory included everything south along Lake Michigan for 60 miles to the bottom tip of the Lake (Illinois originally only would have had a very small window of lake access but we would have been stuck w/ Chicago), the Upper Peninsula, and everything in what is now that crap hole of minnesota w/ the Mississippi river as the territories' border to Canada. So Duluth would have been in WI, along w/ Houghton.

WI was late in the game in getting statehood. Michigan was given the UP when Indiana took some of their land along Lake Michigan. Illinois took that 60 miles along Lake Michigan when they became a state so they could divert riverways toward Lake Michigan and away from the Mississippi River (due to slave states in the south at the time controlling the Big Muddy), and when WI did form, the St Croix was taken as the border so that the future state of minnesota would have access to the Great Lakes. Otherwise WI would be bordering Canada and the last stop before getting to the beautiful vacation town of Thunder Bay.

That is your history lesson for today, now that I've done some teaching, I will be protesting at the Capital the rest of the day, so I can fit in.

Back to hockey.
 
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Jordy must not like school or maybe Eaves himself. Last year he contemplated leaving to play in Europe, and again this year he is as well. Theorhetically, he's only got 1 more year to get a free degree, why even think about leaving for a non-NHL situation? He really didn't have the kind of yr I thought he'd have. If he stays, he could be a 40 guy pt with his scrappy style of play.
 
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Timothy A said:
Jordy must not like school or maybe Eaves himself. Last year he contemplated leaving to play in Europe, and again this year he is as well. Theorhetically, he's only got 1 more year to get a free degree, why even think about leaving for a non-NHL situation? He really didn't have the kind of yr I thought he'd have. If he stays, he could be a 40 guy pt with his scrappy style of play.
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I don't think money is really a concern in his situation. Keep in mind that his brother left after his sophomore season at North Dakota to play in Europe as well. So it's not like this is a surprise.
 
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