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Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow
Went to the game last night and was much more impressed than I was watching at home on Friday. Badgers came out fast and furious. Their passing was as crisp and clean as I've seen in a few years. It felt for a while that they couldn't miss. They were just really on the same wavelength with each other.
Unfortunately, they didn't sustain it the whole game and that's the sort of thing that will continue to be frustrating this season. For awhile early on you could forget the youth of the team, but the silly penalties in the third, the awful play by Rumpel behind the net that led to a goal and the general let up that was felt in the third period are the sorts of things that are going to happen here with this young team.
Went to the game last night and was much more impressed than I was watching at home on Friday. Badgers came out fast and furious. Their passing was as crisp and clean as I've seen in a few years. It felt for a while that they couldn't miss. They were just really on the same wavelength with each other.
Unfortunately, they didn't sustain it the whole game and that's the sort of thing that will continue to be frustrating this season. For awhile early on you could forget the youth of the team, but the silly penalties in the third, the awful play by Rumpel behind the net that led to a goal and the general let up that was felt in the third period are the sorts of things that are going to happen here with this young team.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow
There are way to many variables to even consider this in college hockey. Thinking 2-3yrs down the road? To be excited for the development of some underclassmen is one thing, to believe your Badgers (or any team for that matter) will be making an NCAA run (or like, whatever that means) 2-3yrs from now is a fantasy.
There are way to many variables to even consider this in college hockey. Thinking 2-3yrs down the road? To be excited for the development of some underclassmen is one thing, to believe your Badgers (or any team for that matter) will be making an NCAA run (or like, whatever that means) 2-3yrs from now is a fantasy.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow
Chuck, these gopher fans have been stung by disappointment too many times to dare believe.
Chuck, these gopher fans have been stung by disappointment too many times to dare believe.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow
Bamm Bamm got in a scrap yesterday against the Ducks. I was surprised to see that it wasn't his first NHL fight. Captain Kickass, indeed.
Bamm Bamm got in a scrap yesterday against the Ducks. I was surprised to see that it wasn't his first NHL fight. Captain Kickass, indeed.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow
When it comes to "MN Hockey" disappointment isn't the word i'd use to describe the feeling I get when I see MN natives all over the NHL.. When it includes Gopher Hockey which supports the previous sentence disappointment is still not the word i'd use. Proud would work tho...
Now back to the topic.
Just pointing out the obvious.
When it comes to "MN Hockey" disappointment isn't the word i'd use to describe the feeling I get when I see MN natives all over the NHL.. When it includes Gopher Hockey which supports the previous sentence disappointment is still not the word i'd use. Proud would work tho...
Now back to the topic.
Just pointing out the obvious.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow
John. Can I call you John? In this site everything is obvious and nothing is obvious. It's a very zen place. We have fun.
John. Can I call you John? In this site everything is obvious and nothing is obvious. It's a very zen place. We have fun.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow
If it blows your hair back..
How many of you are ready for the new conference? Whats the average Badger opinion of the change?
If it blows your hair back..
How many of you are ready for the new conference? Whats the average Badger opinion of the change?
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Burd is a Nuck fan.
solovsfett
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow
In the assumption that you are serious I'll say this: When the Burish, Licari, Gilbert, McMurchy class came in and there was the scrap w/Alex Leavitt early in the season and I'd heard the entire frosh class marched into Coach Eaves office to offer their support for him 100%, I felt then that those guys would be a part of something special so I posted in my sig "2006 NCAA Champs" back in 03, I thought Eaves could do it in 4 years (which would have been Burish's class Sr year)
I don't think the variables are that great really. Great coach? Check. a few blue-chip recruits surrounded by solid 3 and 4-year guys? Check.
This UW team which we're watching grow is beginning to give me the same feeling as the 03-04 team did, this time though I don't think it will take 4 years. I think 1-2 years of seasoning and adding a Kerdiles, Zulinick and UW will be in the position to win it all.
In the assumption that you are serious I'll say this: When the Burish, Licari, Gilbert, McMurchy class came in and there was the scrap w/Alex Leavitt early in the season and I'd heard the entire frosh class marched into Coach Eaves office to offer their support for him 100%, I felt then that those guys would be a part of something special so I posted in my sig "2006 NCAA Champs" back in 03, I thought Eaves could do it in 4 years (which would have been Burish's class Sr year)
I don't think the variables are that great really. Great coach? Check. a few blue-chip recruits surrounded by solid 3 and 4-year guys? Check.
This UW team which we're watching grow is beginning to give me the same feeling as the 03-04 team did, this time though I don't think it will take 4 years. I think 1-2 years of seasoning and adding a Kerdiles, Zulinick and UW will be in the position to win it all.
JDUBBS1280
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Injuries, decommits, early departures, talent of opposition, etc... Not to mention, talent on paper doesn't always translate to talent on the ice. I'm excited about our team's prospects the next few years too, but I'm not sure I would predict a national title 2-3 years out. Too much can happen. That said, nothing wrong with being excited or optimistic
Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow
Thats it in a nut shell.
Not raining on anyones parade I just think theres to many variables.
Injuries, decommits, early departures, talent of opposition, etc... Not to mention, talent on paper doesn't always translate to talent on the ice. I'm excited about our team's prospects the next few years too, but I'm not sure I would predict a national title 2-3 years out. Too much can happen. That said, nothing wrong with being excited or optimistic
Thats it in a nut shell.
Not raining on anyones parade I just think theres to many variables.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
UW will certainly have the talent on paper.
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Gurtholfin
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow
Love you guys always falling back on Minnesota natives doing "fill in the blank" to try and make up for the shortcomings of your Gopher teams. Must be nice. You can never lose!
Nobody outside of Minnesota cares.
By the same token, we could look at our current team and them being 4-4 and say, it's okay, look at all the former Badgers in the NHL! Burish won a Cup! Pavelski is doing swell! Geoffrion looks like a keeper! Go Bucky! We're winners because of all those guys!
Say all you want about where the kids spent their childhood, but they do their REAL make or break developing AFTER they leave Minnesota and get to their college or junior teams. Otherwise, how do you explain Tom Gilbert who you guys evidently didn't want. He developed here.
But then again, that has nothing to do with this current Badger team or any disappointment that we may feel as fans from year to year when they underachieve in our eyes.
Just pointing out the obvious...
Love you guys always falling back on Minnesota natives doing "fill in the blank" to try and make up for the shortcomings of your Gopher teams. Must be nice. You can never lose!
Nobody outside of Minnesota cares.
By the same token, we could look at our current team and them being 4-4 and say, it's okay, look at all the former Badgers in the NHL! Burish won a Cup! Pavelski is doing swell! Geoffrion looks like a keeper! Go Bucky! We're winners because of all those guys!
Say all you want about where the kids spent their childhood, but they do their REAL make or break developing AFTER they leave Minnesota and get to their college or junior teams. Otherwise, how do you explain Tom Gilbert who you guys evidently didn't want. He developed here.
But then again, that has nothing to do with this current Badger team or any disappointment that we may feel as fans from year to year when they underachieve in our eyes.
Just pointing out the obvious...
Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow
Let me explain this to you, and I'll try and slow down so you "get it" THAT Gopher program IS the reason Minnesota produces so many hockey players. And if you think so many Gopher fans fall back on that argument as an easy out you're delusional. I (and most Gopher fans) would gladly take the Gophers program with a few less NCAA's and one that supports the growth of the sport over one that doesn't. Hockey in MN is part of the culture, not just a past time. You can bet there would be an uprising in MN if they got away from recruiting in state. Which drives the entire sport in MN.. So feel free to spend your time hating on MN Hockey, but without it your precious Badgers wouldn't be squat...
Let me explain this to you, and I'll try and slow down so you "get it" THAT Gopher program IS the reason Minnesota produces so many hockey players. And if you think so many Gopher fans fall back on that argument as an easy out you're delusional. I (and most Gopher fans) would gladly take the Gophers program with a few less NCAA's and one that supports the growth of the sport over one that doesn't. Hockey in MN is part of the culture, not just a past time. You can bet there would be an uprising in MN if they got away from recruiting in state. Which drives the entire sport in MN.. So feel free to spend your time hating on MN Hockey, but without it your precious Badgers wouldn't be squat...
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow
On one hand, you're right about Minnesota (the state) playing host to a FAR more robust hockey culture.
On the other hand, leave it to a rodent fan to think that the gophers are the reason for the hockey culture there and not the other way around.
On one hand, you're right about Minnesota (the state) playing host to a FAR more robust hockey culture.
On the other hand, leave it to a rodent fan to think that the gophers are the reason for the hockey culture there and not the other way around.
Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow
You may want to brush up on your Hockey history in MN if you disagree that the Gophs didn't drive the entire system.. I know the Badgers have the history of a ham sandwhich but that doesn't excuse the ignorance.
You may want to brush up on your Hockey history in MN if you disagree that the Gophs didn't drive the entire system.. I know the Badgers have the history of a ham sandwhich but that doesn't excuse the ignorance.
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Gurtholfin
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow
So wait, the gophers are the reason that so many kids play hockey in Minnesota? If anything, I would think that the Gophers would be driving kids to take up hoops or chess.
I've never hated on MN hockey, just Gopher hockey and their fans, which is what this forum is kinda for, in a fun way. I have mucho respect for the hockey culture in Minnesota and the youth hockey programs that turn out the raw prospects that the Badgers turn into NHL stars.
So wait, the gophers are the reason that so many kids play hockey in Minnesota? If anything, I would think that the Gophers would be driving kids to take up hoops or chess.
I've never hated on MN hockey, just Gopher hockey and their fans, which is what this forum is kinda for, in a fun way. I have mucho respect for the hockey culture in Minnesota and the youth hockey programs that turn out the raw prospects that the Badgers turn into NHL stars.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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I grew up in the Twin Cities. Don't be a twat. Hockey in Minnesota is so much bigger than the gophers that it isn't even funny. ****, high school hockey and park/pond hockey are both much bigger components.
solovsfett
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Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow
well, to say Wisconsin hockey has the history of a ham sandwich is the epitome of ignorance. I mean the modern era started in 1963 (let's just count that so as not to start a separate argument), so that's 48 years. How many more years do you want before the team has a history?
Without Minnesota hockey the badgers would be squat? heh, no. w/out Minnesotans UW would just recruit double the amount of Canadians and be just fine
and I think Gurtholfin makes an excellent point. Most UW fans hate gopher hockey, not Minnesota hockey (HS, youth, Shattuck et al) and it's culture. Obviously the states of Minnesota and Massachusetts have contributed immeasurably to the state of USA hockey.
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well, to say Wisconsin hockey has the history of a ham sandwich is the epitome of ignorance. I mean the modern era started in 1963 (let's just count that so as not to start a separate argument), so that's 48 years. How many more years do you want before the team has a history?
Without Minnesota hockey the badgers would be squat? heh, no. w/out Minnesotans UW would just recruit double the amount of Canadians and be just fine
and I think Gurtholfin makes an excellent point. Most UW fans hate gopher hockey, not Minnesota hockey (HS, youth, Shattuck et al) and it's culture. Obviously the states of Minnesota and Massachusetts have contributed immeasurably to the state of USA hockey.
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