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Wisconsin Hockey Part 2 - No Silly Eaves-isms, Just Win The Title!

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Red Till I'm Dead! said:
Is it truly wrong for me to not cheer against minnesota this weekend when they play Denver?
I feel dirty :eek:
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I hate the rodents more than just about anyone, here's how I handle the situation. I don't root for either team and when one loses, I am happy. :) It's a no lose situation for me then. :)

You'll NEVER see me cheer for the rodents. NEVER. If it came down to them beating a team to get UW into the NCAA's, then I'd say UW should have won more during the season to make that game meaningless.
 
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If I pick up the paper the next day and see that the gophers have beaten Denver, I'll be pleased about the improvement in Bucky's standing. I don't mind the gophers winning under the present circumstances. Just so I don't have to watch.
 
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Not sure how thrilled the UW Athletic Department would be if I shared this on the No Alibis blog* so I'll make note of it here.

* (To be fair, I don't know if they even read- much less care about- our blog)

I sent an e-mail to three addresses from the UWBadgers.com (the generic "contact us" address, to one Hockey staffer and one Bouncyball staffer). I had been noticing several posterboard signs in the student section whenever I've seen the men's basketball (edit: whenever I've seen basketball on TV). Knowing UW's strict policies on confiscating signs, banners and flags- and the exceptions to those policies are very rare (notably: Phil, and that one time I saw Sioux fans with a Sioux flag- although that was during an NCAA regional)- I asked the obvious question: what's the deal?

I got pretty insightful answers from two of the e-mail addresses (the hockey staffer, perhaps prudently, didn't answer and kindly pointed me towards another staffer). Evidently, the marketing staff has been distributing sponsored signs to students as they show up to basketball games as an effort to "add more excitement to the Kohl Center" and "re-engage the Grateful Red student section" (their words in quotes).

Seems like a decent idea, if you ask me. It creates a cool look for the Grateful Red when they're on ESPN cameras, and I can dig it. The BB staffer noted that they've gotten great feedback on this experiment.

Whomever responds to the generic e-mail address also added two very telling quotes about why this isn't being done at football or hockey games (this is why I'm posting about the whole thing here):

"A comparable program at Camp Randall wouldn’t be feasible due to the numbers of students and fans; just getting the student body into Camp Randall is a gargantuan task."

"The student sections at Hockey games are very engaged already, so there hasn’t been a student or dept. initiative to make the “signing” a part of the hockey experience for students at the Kohl Center."

You can pretty much figure out why I love the bolded parts...
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Not sure how thrilled the UW Athletic Department would be if I shared this on the No Alibis blog* so I'll make note of it here.

* (To be fair, I don't know if they even read- much less care about- our blog)

I sent an e-mail to three addresses from the UWBadgers.com (the generic "contact us" address, to one Hockey staffer and one Bouncyball staffer). I had been noticing several posterboard signs in the student section whenever I've seen the men's basketball. Knowing UW's strict policies on confiscating signs, banners and flags- and the exceptions to those policies are very rare (notably: Phil, and that one time I saw Sioux fans with a Sioux flag- although that was during an NCAA regional)- I asked the obvious question: what's the deal?

I got pretty insightful answers from two of the e-mail addresses (the hockey staffer, perhaps prudently, didn't answer and kindly pointed me towards another staffer). Evidently, the marketing staff has been distributing sponsored signs to students as they show up to basketball games as an effort to "add more excitement to the Kohl Center" and "re-engage the Grateful Red student section" (their words in quotes).

Seems like a decent idea, if you ask me. It creates a cool look for the Grateful Red when they're on ESPN cameras, and I can dig it. The BB staffer noted that they've gotten great feedback on this experiment.

Whomever responds to the generic e-mail address also added two very telling quotes about why this isn't being done at football or hockey games (this is why I'm posting about the whole thing here):

"A comparable program at Camp Randall wouldn’t be feasible due to the numbers of students and fans; just getting the student body into Camp Randall is a gargantuan task."

"The student sections at Hockey games are very engaged already, so there hasn’t been a student or dept. initiative to make the “signing” a part of the hockey experience for students at the Kohl Center."

You can pretty much figure out why I love the bolded parts...
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Very interesting information! My friend actually is tasked with the job of finding vulgar signs at all the basketball games (essentially sitting in a booth with binoculars and pointing out to security when one is found). When I asked her if we would ever be allowed to bring in signs to hockey, she gave me the same "hockey is already engaged" talk. I still think it would be nice to allow anyone to bring signs into the arena, to engage the non student sections as well.
 
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WisconsinWildcard said:
Very interesting information! My friend actually is tasked with the job of finding vulgar signs at all the basketball games (essentially sitting in a booth with binoculars and pointing out to security when one is found). When I asked her if we would ever be allowed to bring in signs to hockey, she gave me the same "hockey is already engaged" talk. I still think it would be nice to allow anyone to bring signs into the arena, to engage the non student sections as well.
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I would have been content to be allowed to bring in UW flags, even if they're not on a pole, to wave around during Varsity.

Or even to allow banners, a la the Dane.
 
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Ok, if you've been reading the 60 min blog you've noticed that Hockeys Future has been doing college prospect updates. I was looking through some different teams tonight that don't have Badger prospects and almost spit out my coffee and I wasn't even drinking any.

The guy/girl who did the St. Louis update had a bio of Travis Erstad on there. Yeah, that is correct, the same Travis Erstad who is playing division 3 hockey for UW-Stevens Point.

Just thought it was funny and you guys would maybe want to see it.

"Travis Erstad, C - University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Acquired: 4th round, 100th overall, 2007
11-9-1988, 6'4, 210 pounds

The gritty, physical Travis Erstad leads the University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point in penalty minutes, while also contributing a bit on the scoresheet. The sophomore has four goals and eight assists in 12 games for the Pointers, with two of those goals coming on the power play. While he’ll never be confused with a great playmaker, Erstad has the potential to be a complimentary player. But he is still at the Division III level. "
 
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WisconsinWildcard said:
Very interesting information! My friend actually is tasked with the job of finding vulgar signs at all the basketball games (essentially sitting in a booth with binoculars and pointing out to security when one is found). When I asked her if we would ever be allowed to bring in signs to hockey, she gave me the same "hockey is already engaged" talk. I still think it would be nice to allow anyone to bring signs into the arena, to engage the non student sections as well.
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No doubt the students' section is already very much, "engaged". I would like to see them do more to get the non-students engaged. Ive got season tickets in section 121 and its a little disappointing how unengaged some people are.
It took me a little while to learn what all the different chants are (sometimes its hard to hear exactly what people are saying and to see exactly what the motions are). It would be nice if they had an online resource or something where you could look it up and learn all the different chants.
I realize that much of the time, the students come up with special chants and its not exactly something that you could distribute to everyone (and no doubt the students probably like having their own chants), but it would be nice if there were a resource for new fans who want to learn all the standard stuff.
 
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Brian Elliott's streak continues:

9 straight wins, including a 2-0 shutout against the Canucks tonight.

Interesting Elliott factoid of the day: Elliott had a 6 game win streak in his rookie season last year, which according to Wikipedia, is an all-time NHL record win streak for a rookie goaltender.

Badgers in the NHL record books! Who knew?
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Brian Elliott's streak continues:

9 straight wins, including a 2-0 shutout against the Canucks tonight.

Interesting Elliott factoid of the day: Elliott had a 6 game win streak in his rookie season last year, which according to Wikipedia, is an all-time NHL record win streak for a rookie goaltender.

Badgers in the NHL record books! Who knew?
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Unfortunately Wellwood got one for the Canucks with less than 2 minutes left, and it ended 3-1 (could've used a fantasy shutout).

Anyways, still great for Elliott.
 
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Oops... I thought the 2-0 score was a final. Stupid browser not regenerating!!! I say as if it's not a user error...
 
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Chuck Schwartz said:
Ok, if you've been reading the 60 min blog you've noticed that Hockeys Future has been doing college prospect updates. I was looking through some different teams tonight that don't have Badger prospects and almost spit out my coffee and I wasn't even drinking any.

The guy/girl who did the St. Louis update had a bio of Travis Erstad on there. Yeah, that is correct, the same Travis Erstad who is playing division 3 hockey for UW-Stevens Point.

Just thought it was funny and you guys would maybe want to see it.

"Travis Erstad, C - University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Acquired: 4th round, 100th overall, 2007
11-9-1988, 6'4, 210 pounds

The gritty, physical Travis Erstad leads the University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point in penalty minutes, while also contributing a bit on the scoresheet. The sophomore has four goals and eight assists in 12 games for the Pointers, with two of those goals coming on the power play. While he’ll never be confused with a great playmaker, Erstad has the potential to be a complimentary player. But he is still at the Division III level. "
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Chuck, I've seen Erstad play a few times in his two seasons at Point. He's a good D3 player, but not a great one. You notice him because he's a taller guy who isn't afraid to do his own protecting, but his skills don't jump off the ice. He's a big body with solid skills for the level he plays, but definitely a 4th line grinder at UW and I wonder how much ice time he would have even earned in that role. I don't think St. Louis drafted him to be a top line center, but you likely find yourself expecting more from an NHL draft pick playing in the NCHA. I don't remember who exactly got some of his scholarship money and his spot when he bolted late and unexpectedly, but without even knowing I'll say it worked out OK for all parties involved. Both Travis and Garrett Suter are playing at the right level. They are both above average D3 players, but neither play with enough skill or discipline to be dominant.
 
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I don't normally do this but I'm going to come out and say Matt Thurber should be seeing regular shifts over #10 and #24. those 2 guys have just flat out disappeared.

Last night Grotting had an excellent game going after loose pucks and generally winning those battles. I know some on this board have questioned his play but I'm definitely on the Grotting bandwagon after seeing 4 games in person thusfar and several more on tv.

Maybe Thurber busts out as a junior the same way Dan Plante did....who knows?
 
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solovsfett said:
I don't normally do this but I'm going to come out and say Matt Thurber should be seeing regular shifts over #10 and #24. those 2 guys have just flat out disappeared.

Last night Grotting had an excellent game going after loose pucks and generally winning those battles. I know some on this board have questioned his play but I'm definitely on the Grotting bandwagon after seeing 4 games in person thusfar and several more on tv.

Maybe Thurber busts out as a junior the same way Dan Plante did....who knows?
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Agreed. Derek Lee is another who deserves some more PT, to see if he can contribute.

Mitchell and Johnson are both indeed just wastes of space out there, IMO.
 
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aktick said:
Agreed. Derek Lee is another who deserves some more PT, to see if he can contribute.

Mitchell and Johnson are both indeed just wastes of space out there, IMO.
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yes. I forgot about Derek Lee. he should be out there as well I think I agree.
 
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solovsfett said:
I don't normally do this but I'm going to come out and say Matt Thurber should be seeing regular shifts over #10 and #24. those 2 guys have just flat out disappeared.

Last night Grotting had an excellent game going after loose pucks and generally winning those battles. I know some on this board have questioned his play but I'm definitely on the Grotting bandwagon after seeing 4 games in person thusfar and several more on tv.

Maybe Thurber busts out as a junior the same way Dan Plante did....who knows?
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What Grotting brings to the team doesn't show up in the box score. He is a 100% grinder that gets under the skin of the opponent. Johnson no longer is a every good grinder and Michell no longer scores. I would also like to see Thurber/Podge/Lee fill in for those two players.
 
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TJbadgerfan said:
So then you are rooting for Goofy next weekend.:p ;)
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I was misled by the previous poster and too lazy to look at the actual schedule. I'm rooting for the BADGERS this weekend!!!

I agree about Thurber and PT, Johnson is doing nothing at this point for the team. Thurber is an effective centerman, a great defender, and if Eaves would let him, he could score/set up some goals too.

As for Derek Lee, I can see why he is sitting. He is not a grinder type at all, and there is NO room on the top two lines where he would be effective as a playmaker. He'll get his PT next season, he'll be setting up Zengerle or someone to be a big part of the scoring.
 
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