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Wisconsin Hockey 23-24: Hastily Making Wisconsin Hockey Great Again

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druzy192 said:
Interesting that he's bringing in all these transfers. Especially a guy that scored 9 points last year. Obviously he has a blueprint and vision that he is following. I am expecting some of the "loafers" to leave the program at some point. Maybe they won't leave until practice starts and they find out they need to work hard all over the ice.
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He definitely has a vision. Here are TD’s stats from hockeydb
2020-21Cranbrook BucksBCHL63252
2021-22Cranbrook BucksBCHL5434417558 64154
2022-23UMass-AmherstH-East285498-4
 
Coach Hastings has done a good job developing talent so if he thinks a guy is worthy of wearing the jersey then I’m all in. Not every recruit is going to come in and light it up right away - some take time.
 
druzy192 said:
Interesting that he's bringing in all these transfers. Especially a guy that scored 9 points last year. Obviously he has a blueprint and vision that he is following. I am expecting some of the "loafers" to leave the program at some point. Maybe they won't leave until practice starts and they find out they need to work hard all over the ice.
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I like seeing the high scoring bchl guys come in. They take a bit of time to get up to speed, but at least they have shown scoring touch in the past. If you haven't scored a lot in the Canadian jrs or the ushl you're not gonna score a lot in college.
 
WiscTJK said:
UW Hockey and Cole Caufield News:

https://uwbadgers.com/news/2023/6/5...tions-made-to-wisconsin-mens-hockey-team.aspx

https://twitter.com/ToddMilewski/status/1665788723324125185

https://twitter.com/ToddMilewski/status/1665738421959118849

https://twitter.com/ToddMilewski/status/1665710823375765504
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I love that all 3 of the transfers are Canadians! I hope Hastings reopens that pipeline. I never liked the idea of signing so many Wisconsin kids just because they’re in state.
 
HighToTheGloveSide said:
Behind a pay wall for me - how much of a bump did the new assistants get?
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"The new staff of head coach Mike Hastings, associate head coach Todd Knott and assistant coach Nick Oliver will earn a combined $1.165 million in their first season together, according to their contracts.

That's just over $126,000 more than the latest available contract salary figures for the former staff of Tony Granato, Mark Osiecki and Andy Brandt."

I find this shocking that the they actually stepped up and paid these guys that much. That has to be one heck of a raise for Oliver and probably Knott as well.
 
solovsfett said:
I love that all 3 of the transfers are Canadians! I hope Hastings reopens that pipeline. I never liked the idea of signing so many Wisconsin kids just because they’re in state.
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There can be some great WI kids (Suter, ChaChing, Pavs), but for the most part they are role players at best that often times too much was expected of them, especially from TG.
 
Timothy A said:
There can be some great WI kids (Suter, ChaChing, Pavs), but for the most part they are role players at best that often times too much was expected of them, especially from TG.
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Yeah, we’ve had Byce, Snedden, Carter, Pavs, Suter and Caufield but the overwhelming majority are really 4th line talent imo.

i don’t want to trash the players it’s not their fault but Wisconsin HS hockey is just not good enough to produce more than 1-2 legitimate top 2 line guys every few years. All of the top 15 Minnesota schools could schedule the best WI HS and they’d win 90% of the time I think.
 
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solovsfett said:
Yeah, we’ve had Byce, Snedden, Carter, Pavs, Suter and Caufield but the overwhelming majority are really 4th line talent imo.

i don’t want to trash the players it’s not their fault but Wisconsin HS hockey is just not good enough to produce more than 1-2 legitimate top 2 line guys every few years. All of the top 15 Minnesota schools could schedule the best WI HS and they’d win 90% of the time I think.
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Comparing Wisconsin HS hockey to Minny HS is an apple to an orange. Beyond just the sheer quantity of kids playing, Minny kids will more often than not hang around and finish their senior year in high school. Good Wisky kids are going to be playing juniors often their junior year in high school and most like by their senior year.
 
Timothy A said:
"The new staff of head coach Mike Hastings, associate head coach Todd Knott and assistant coach Nick Oliver will earn a combined $1.165 million in their first season together, according to their contracts.

That's just over $126,000 more than the latest available contract salary figures for the former staff of Tony Granato, Mark Osiecki and Andy Brandt."

I find this shocking that the they actually stepped up and paid these guys that much. That has to be one heck of a raise for Oliver and probably Knott as well.
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From a different article:
Hastings UW Base - $700,000.00 (with $25,000.00 increase each year for 5 years)
Hastings last MSU Base - $435,000.00
Granato UW Base - $600,000.00

Knott UW Base - $275,000.00 (3 years)
Knott MSU Base - $175,000.00

Oliver UW Base - $190,000.00 (1 year contract)
 
KaMiGo said:
From a different article:
Hastings UW Base - $700,000.00 (with $25,000.00 increase each year for 5 years)
Hastings last MSU Base - $435,000.00
Granato UW Base - $600,000.00

Knott UW Base - $275,000.00 (3 years)
Knott MSU Base - $175,000.00

Oliver UW Base - $190,000.00 (1 year contract)
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Oliver 1 year contract is interesting in a bad way. I prefer coaching stability. Why just 1 year? I bet the cost of living in Mankato is less than Madison.
 
Timothy A said:
Oliver 1 year contract is interesting in a bad way. I prefer coaching stability. Why just 1 year? I bet the cost of living in Mankato is less than Madison.
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5, 3, 1 for HC, Asst 1, and Asst 2. Who knows, either Hastings wanted it that way or UW requested the contracts that way. I think the 2nd Asst on a 1 yr contract gives Hastings the flex he needs if it doesnt work out or its a year to year and allows the HC to keep him around.

I dont think across college hockey the 2nd asst job is locked in long term. Those are the guys that tend to move around the most, no?
 
Timothy A said:
Oliver 1 year contract is interesting in a bad way. I prefer coaching stability. Why just 1 year? I bet the cost of living in Mankato is less than Madison.
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GoBucky18 said:
5, 3, 1 for HC, Asst 1, and Asst 2. Who knows, either Hastings wanted it that way or UW requested the contracts that way. I think the 2nd Asst on a 1 yr contract gives Hastings the flex he needs if it doesnt work out or its a year to year and allows the HC to keep him around.

I dont think across college hockey the 2nd asst job is locked in long term. Those are the guys that tend to move around the most, no?
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I thought the 1 year contract has been pretty typical for hockey assistants. And then it just rolled over year to year. Knott and Oz before him were more the exception than the rule.
 
I just noticed I joined USCHO in May 2003. Who on this board wasn't born yet? ;-)

(I know Solo & Tim have me beat, and they can't be the only ones.):)
 
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