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WISCONSIN HOCKEY 09-10 - Climbing The Mountain (7th Edition?)

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Mike Eaves on Brendan Smith's defense.

QUESTION #11: Brendan Smith's recent streak, 7 games, 15 points, obviously he's putting the points up. Has he improved as a defensemen as well and putting that all together? You talked about reaching one's potential. He's obviously a little bit closer.

EAVES: His play without the puck has definitely gotten better. There has been clips that we've been able to show, especially in one-on-one situations. He used to have a habit of, as a forward came toward him, he's looking him at the chest, but then his eyes would kind of wander down tot eh puck, and a good forward is going to make a money out of you when you do that. But there's been a couple clips where he has, the puck does not exist, is the verbiage we try to use, when you don't play with the puck because you want to go through the man. There have been a couple great clips of him being able to do that and finishing the check and, as a result, you know, not putting himself in a position to get beaten one-on-one. So there has been some good growth. It's kind of interesting how they're coming together.
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VarsityWisconsin said:
Maybe I was wrong about the WJC. I'll tune in in a few weeks to give it a chance. I'm still not thrilled about losing 3 key players, though.
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Ramage won't make the team, good to see him get invited though.

I'd be skeptical about Gardiner too if Coach Oz wasn't one of the assistants. Gardiner has been good this season, but one of these days I'm hoping to see some of the offense he has logged away from his forward days.

Stepan would be a big loss, if all 4 lines weren't consistently scoring most weekends.
 
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VarsityWisconsin said:
Maybe I was wrong about the WJC. I'll tune in in a few weeks to give it a chance. I'm still not thrilled about losing 3 key players, though.
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probably only going to lose 2, i don't think Ramage will make the team when its all said and done. We know we have the forward depth to deal with Stepan being gone and i'm sure whoever fills on for Gardiner will do just fine as well.
 
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Looks like I'm going to get my wish. Although, I'd rather it not be at the expense of an injury.

http://host.madison.com/sports/college/hockey/article_ff3c45e2-e454-11de-8106-001cc4c002e0.html

Bennett was injured when multiple players collided in front of his net during a drill at the Camp Randall Memorial Sports Center. Upon tumbling to the ice, Bennett cried out in pain before UW athletic trainers Andy Hrodey and Denny Helwig reached his side.

Bennett favored his left arm while being escorted from the ice. Madison Fire Dept. paramedics were summoned and brought a stretcher into the facilty. Bennett walked out to the ambulance under his own power, but was hunched over in obvious discomfort.
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blockski said:
If the paramedics were called, I would either think a serious cut or a serious dislocation...
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I suspect that the amount of pain that he was in may have also contributed. I have to wonder what the athletic departments SOP is for cases like this.
 
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badgerhawk said:
One could say that. ( not saying you are saying this, you know what I'm saying):) There were about 10 other games they blew a lead in that cost them the spot as well. It takes more than these two games to knock a team from the NCAA's.
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Last year one more win would have put UW over the top, would it have not?

It's 1 thing to lose a game with your full compliment of healthy players. It's another to lose a game that you were missing healthy guys who are main cogs for your team. More wins during this period with a full compliments of players in 08/09 & 06-07 may/would have got them in. Are all the peripheral pluses worth the direct hit damages of missing the ncaa's? To me no, but that is simply my humble opinion.

Record during the w-j tourney:
08-09 1-2-1 Missed ncaa 20-16-4
07-08 1-2-1
06-07 2-2-0 Missed ncaa 19-18-4
05-06 2-0-0
04-05 0-1-1
03-04 2-1-1
02-03 2-1-1
Total 10-7-5

Anyway, it's not going to change and Eaves has said he does try to work around it. Perhaps to death of the showdown will mean UW won't play at all that week and therefore cut the impact of the World jr's.

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Bummer Bennett is hurt, but feel really confident Goody will play great. The timing is actually pretty good. He'll miss this weekend, then there is a 2 week gap to the showdown, then a 2 week gap to CC 1/15-1/16.

What's the status of Murray?
 
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Timothy A said:
Last year one more win would have put UW over the top, would it have not?

Record during the w-j tourney:
08-09 1-2-1 Missed ncaa 20-16-4
07-08 1-2-1
06-07 2-2-0 Missed ncaa 19-18-4
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I know we've been through this, but the problem is not the WJC. It's 20-16-4 and 19-18-4. Why is the University of Wisconsin on the bubble so much?

We need to win more of the games when everyone is present so it doesn't come down to one game either way. In 07-08, we made the tourney by one game.

Three years in a row, our post season fortunes were decided by one game. You might say that that proves your point, but I say that it proves mine. In 06-07, we lost 16 games with everyone present. Who can say that we would have won either of the games that we lost during the WJC? We were about .500 for the year so we could project .500 during the WJC.

I wish that the WCHA would take a break during the WJC so all of the schools affected could be spared. But they don't/won't, so we deal with it.

I think that even if we do away with the showdown, we will still play a couple of games over that time unless we find an early season tourney to be in or another holiday tourney to go to.

I support any of our players who make the national team, playing for the national team. Regardless of whether the hockey program gets any benefit out of it at all.

USA! USA! USA! USA!

I dislike Hockey Canada almost as much as the Gophers. They are actually quite a bit more arrogant.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
Three years in a row, our post season fortunes were decided by one game. You might say that that proves your point, but I say that it proves mine.
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I'm with Gurtholfin on this one.
 
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Timothy A said:
Last year one more win would have put UW over the top, would it have not?

It's 1 thing to lose a game with your full compliment of healthy players. It's another to lose a game that you were missing healthy guys who are main cogs for your team. More wins during this period with a full compliments of players in 08/09 & 06-07 may/would have got them in. Are all the peripheral pluses worth the direct hit damages of missing the ncaa's? To me no, but that is simply my humble opinion.

Record during the w-j tourney:
08-09 1-2-1 Missed ncaa 20-16-4
07-08 1-2-1
06-07 2-2-0 Missed ncaa 19-18-4
05-06 2-0-0
04-05 0-1-1
03-04 2-1-1
02-03 2-1-1
Total 10-7-5

Anyway, it's not going to change and Eaves has said he does try to work around it. Perhaps to death of the showdown will mean UW won't play at all that week and therefore cut the impact of the World jr's.

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Bummer Bennett is hurt, but feel really confident Goody will play great. The timing is actually pretty good. He'll miss this weekend, then there is a 2 week gap to the showdown, then a 2 week gap to CC 1/15-1/16.

What's the status of Murray?
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I don't remember the 06/07 season other than that season I would "blame" on injuries not the WJC. Carlson, Skille and Klubertanz (before he was really horrible) all were injuried around the same time, and the team tanked. When they returned, they made a great run, but fell just short.

Last season, sure those N. Michigan games "could" have been different w/ Gold Medal Goloubef and McD, but the team should have won both of those games anyway. Remember the three goal lead and then the team planning the evening at the KK instead of playing the last 12 minutes and OT? Or how about friday @ Denver in October, or saturday nights @ home against Duluth and CC, not to mention the total collapse a little later against Denver at home that friday which then completely destroyed any chance the team had of winning the next night.

From my POV, the WJC didn't matter at all to the results of either of those seasons. Injuries put the very young 06/07 team (group of forwards now seniors) way behind to start. Not being able to close multiple games, many of them at home, doomed last season's team. Last season the only people they had to blame was themselves, they should have won at least 3 more games, which could have put them as high as a low 2 seed in the NCAA w/ how close the PWRs were.

As was mentioned, if the kids get to play for Team USA, have at it and bring home the gold!
 
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Yeah, the 06-07 team was hurt more by injuries than anything else. They had lost a huge amount of scoring from the championship team, and the three returning pointscorers all ended up hurt at the same time (for various lengths of time), leaving UW with something like 10-15% of their point scoring from the year before out on the ice.

UW's record that year with Skille was also much better than their record w/o Skille, IIRC.
 
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Gandalf the Red said:
I don't remember the 06/07 season other than that season I would "blame" on injuries not the WJC. Carlson, Skille and Klubertanz (before he was really horrible) all were injuried around the same time, and the team tanked. When they returned, they made a great run, but fell just short.

Last season, sure those N. Michigan games "could" have been different w/ Gold Medal Goloubef and McD, but the team should have won both of those games anyway. Remember the three goal lead and then the team planning the evening at the KK instead of playing the last 12 minutes and OT? Or how about friday @ Denver in October, or saturday nights @ home against Duluth and CC, not to mention the total collapse a little later against Denver at home that friday which then completely destroyed any chance the team had of winning the next night.

From my POV, the WJC didn't matter at all to the results of either of those seasons. Injuries put the very young 06/07 team (group of forwards now seniors) way behind to start. Not being able to close multiple games, many of them at home, doomed last season's team. Last season the only people they had to blame was themselves, they should have won at least 3 more games, which could have put them as high as a low 2 seed in the NCAA w/ how close the PWRs were.

As was mentioned, if the kids get to play for Team USA, have at it and bring home the gold!
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He is getting back to his old self in Sweden. I hear he is doing really well over in Stockholm.
 
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Does anyone have an update on Jordy Murray’s injury?

Will he be making the trip to UND?
 
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blockski said:
Yeah, the 06-07 team was hurt more by injuries than anything else. They had lost a huge amount of scoring from the championship team, and the three returning pointscorers all ended up hurt at the same time (for various lengths of time), leaving UW with something like 10-15% of their point scoring from the year before out on the ice.

UW's record that year with Skille was also much better than their record w/o Skille, IIRC.
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Better @ 12-9-3 than w/ out him 7-9-1.
 
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blockski said:
UW's record that year with Skille was also much better than their record w/o Skille, IIRC.
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Skille was never the same player after the injury. He didn't play with that same "I'm invincible" mentality that he needed to be a truly successful power forward
 
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Almington said:
Skille was never the same player after the injury. He didn't play with that same "I'm invincible" mentality that he needed to be a truly successful power forward
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Yeah, I kinda agree. I was at the game where he got hurt - happened right in front of me. He was obviously in a lot of pain.
 
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