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Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
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WHKY blogger
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Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
nope just idiots blowing smoke.. people can talk it all they want however I doubt you ever see Mark coach the men at UW.
I only think he leaves the UW women for a new (away from UW) challenge, as Mark has stated on a number of occasions, he is happy where he is at now..
nope just idiots blowing smoke.. people can talk it all they want however I doubt you ever see Mark coach the men at UW.
I only think he leaves the UW women for a new (away from UW) challenge, as Mark has stated on a number of occasions, he is happy where he is at now..
WHKY blogger
Renegade Badger
Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
Definitely not a shortage of qualified or motivated candidates. Was told well over 500 from a local HS coach that was considering applying.
Because Tracey was the #1 assistant I think you can all but rule out anyone that has never coached in college before. That rules out about half the names Ive heard floating around including Burish, Engstrom, Duggan, Lawler, Morris, Vetter, and Zaugg..as former Badgers. Burish, Vetter, and Zaugg-Siergiej have all coached locally and Morris at a number of preps including Shattuck so I wouldn't rule them out if this was a 2nd assistant position. However they are looking for a primary recruiter and it would be a stretch for any of these girls to assume that role.
Ive heard Jim Fetter tossed around a bit since his program is gone and he has also coached Badgers with the Canadian U-22 team. Have also heard Dave Flint and Jodi McKenna who coached with Mark at the Olympics may be interested as well. Out of the three I would say McKenna is the only strong possibility with Fetter way down the list since he is not coaching now but was a head coach already at this level. I doubt Flint would want to go back to being in assistant considering he is building a program already..
Definitely not a shortage of qualified or motivated candidates. Was told well over 500 from a local HS coach that was considering applying.
Because Tracey was the #1 assistant I think you can all but rule out anyone that has never coached in college before. That rules out about half the names Ive heard floating around including Burish, Engstrom, Duggan, Lawler, Morris, Vetter, and Zaugg..as former Badgers. Burish, Vetter, and Zaugg-Siergiej have all coached locally and Morris at a number of preps including Shattuck so I wouldn't rule them out if this was a 2nd assistant position. However they are looking for a primary recruiter and it would be a stretch for any of these girls to assume that role.
Ive heard Jim Fetter tossed around a bit since his program is gone and he has also coached Badgers with the Canadian U-22 team. Have also heard Dave Flint and Jodi McKenna who coached with Mark at the Olympics may be interested as well. Out of the three I would say McKenna is the only strong possibility with Fetter way down the list since he is not coaching now but was a head coach already at this level. I doubt Flint would want to go back to being in assistant considering he is building a program already..
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
There is more than one type of experience. Most of those you've mentioned have 5 years of experience with Coach Johnson, and some like Vetter have more, so he'd already have a great idea for their leadership qualities and how they can execute an assigned task. I could see any of Duggan, Lawler, or Vetter being a very effective recruiter. Coach Miller won it all with Chu and Ouellette as assistants, proving that a volume of national team experience (and exposure) is valuable as well. Vetter would bring the added bonus of then having a full-time goalie coach. With such a hire, then Friessen probably assumes the #1 assistant role.
I agree, especially because his program gives all indications of moving in the right direction for the long term. Given he already has coached under Johnson, there would figure to be little upside to such a switch unless he wanted out of Boston for personal reasons.
Badger Booster
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Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
How about Sis Paulsen? Not sure what she was doing the last year or so, but she was on the Bemidji staff for awhile. Also, would it be a move up professionally for Jackie MacMillan to go from head coaching at St. Scholastica to #1 assistant at Wisconsin? I'm guessing maybe not though I don't know.
How about Sis Paulsen? Not sure what she was doing the last year or so, but she was on the Bemidji staff for awhile. Also, would it be a move up professionally for Jackie MacMillan to go from head coaching at St. Scholastica to #1 assistant at Wisconsin? I'm guessing maybe not though I don't know.
WHKY blogger
Renegade Badger
Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
Sis is the Head Coach at New England College. I would think both her and Jackie are qualified and would both be good candidates.
While they may be an effective recruiter in some markets, they have little to no actual coaching experience which I would see as a hindrance. Lawler worked with the team last fall and was little more than a puck passer during drills which is the same role Duggan will likely assume this season. The team already has an established volunteer goaltending coach that works well with Mark and the goalies along with the rest of the players love him.
Friesen herself only has a few seasons of coaching under her belt which would give Mark two under-experienced assistants should he chose to bring in one of the above.
Sis is the Head Coach at New England College. I would think both her and Jackie are qualified and would both be good candidates.
While they may be an effective recruiter in some markets, they have little to no actual coaching experience which I would see as a hindrance. Lawler worked with the team last fall and was little more than a puck passer during drills which is the same role Duggan will likely assume this season. The team already has an established volunteer goaltending coach that works well with Mark and the goalies along with the rest of the players love him.
Friesen herself only has a few seasons of coaching under her belt which would give Mark two under-experienced assistants should he chose to bring in one of the above.
ARM
Fan of chipmunk-like mascots.
Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
Selfishly, I'll be happy if the Badgers pick somebody with a ton of experience that doesn't relate as well to potential recruits.
That was my point about UMD in 2007-2008 when neither Chu nor Ouellette had much coaching experience. When the head coach has as much experience with the program as Miller then or Johnson now, that is far less of an issue than if the head coach is green as well. A good recruiter really only needs an eye for talent, good people skills, and a willingness to invest a lot of time. Beyond that, they are a mouthpiece for the head coach and are selling his program. From that respect, I'd rather have somebody who knows Johnson and his program well.
Selfishly, I'll be happy if the Badgers pick somebody with a ton of experience that doesn't relate as well to potential recruits.
Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
Luck isnt needed when it comes to things like that.
Between the rodents and the Wild its not difficult to find fault with Minnesota hockey.
Well...better luck with that endeavor in the future then.
Luck isnt needed when it comes to things like that.
Between the rodents and the Wild its not difficult to find fault with Minnesota hockey.Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
None whatsoever. Eaves said that he hasnt had any contact with any NHL teams.
None whatsoever. Eaves said that he hasnt had any contact with any NHL teams.
Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
I disagree with that. Johnson had the chance to take the Penn State mens' hockey coaching job and he turned it down. Mark Johnson loves Madison and I dont see him ever leaving the area.
brookyone
Deport Right Wing Nuts
Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
A lot more hockey in The State of Hockey than the Gophers and the Wild. How's that Wisconsin NHL franchise doing? Haven't heard much talk about the Wisconsin WWHL team lately either. I live on the Minnesota / Wisconsin border and have access to some televised Wisconsin high school hockey games. I'll be honest, compared to Minnesota high school hockey...it's kind of pathetic. If my goal was to take the condition of hockey in Badgerland down a peg or two I'd look at the bigger picture just as the term "Minnesota hockey" implies...and I'd have plenty of material. 
You'd need to work a little harder in your goal to take The State of Hockey down a peg or two. Badger women's hockey NCAA titles alone ain't gonna get 'er done.
Luck isnt needed when it comes to things like that.
A lot more hockey in The State of Hockey than the Gophers and the Wild. How's that Wisconsin NHL franchise doing?
Haven't heard much talk about the Wisconsin WWHL team lately either. I live on the Minnesota / Wisconsin border and have access to some televised Wisconsin high school hockey games. I'll be honest, compared to Minnesota high school hockey...it's kind of pathetic. If my goal was to take the condition of hockey in Badgerland down a peg or two I'd look at the bigger picture just as the term "Minnesota hockey" implies...and I'd have plenty of material. You'd need to work a little harder in your goal to take The State of Hockey down a peg or two. Badger women's hockey NCAA titles alone ain't gonna get 'er done.
ManBehindTheCurtain
Great and powerful wizard
Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
I live in Minnesota and am a fan of Gopher women's hockey. I was a North Star fan but admit to never particularly warming to the new professional franchise. Are they ever going to make the playoffs?
I can't find very much to disagree with in GoBucky's jibe as long as the jibe is directed at men's hockey. I have always felt that the "State of Hockey" boast is a bunch of capital B capital S.
The pro team sucks. The Gopher men suck. As far as high school goes, the high school hockey, both boys and girls, is of a high quality but there just should not be any doubt that as to high schools, Minnesota is a basketball state. Check the number of hockey programs and number of participants, check the number of basketball programs and number of participants.
The state of hockey boast is pretty empty until such time as some higher quality hockey is played by the higher visibility teams.
The Division 1 women's hockey need bow down to NO ONE in terms of whether or not it qualifies as a state of hockey program. Gopher women's hockey is a consistent beacon of excellence in an otherwise fairly mediocre hockey landscape. That doesn't mean that I think Gopher women's hockey is superior to Badger women's hockey. I used to think that but do not think it now and will not think it again until the results of the games between the two teams begin to reflect such a shift in the scales. For now, I only say that Gopher women's hockey is excellent and need not apologize to anyone.
That's what I think.
A lot more hockey in The State of Hockey than the Gophers and the Wild. How's that Wisconsin NHL franchise doing?
You'd need to work a little harder in your goal to take The State of Hockey down a peg or two. Badger women's hockey NCAA titles alone ain't gonna get 'er done.
I live in Minnesota and am a fan of Gopher women's hockey. I was a North Star fan but admit to never particularly warming to the new professional franchise. Are they ever going to make the playoffs?
I can't find very much to disagree with in GoBucky's jibe as long as the jibe is directed at men's hockey. I have always felt that the "State of Hockey" boast is a bunch of capital B capital S.
The pro team sucks. The Gopher men suck. As far as high school goes, the high school hockey, both boys and girls, is of a high quality but there just should not be any doubt that as to high schools, Minnesota is a basketball state. Check the number of hockey programs and number of participants, check the number of basketball programs and number of participants.
The state of hockey boast is pretty empty until such time as some higher quality hockey is played by the higher visibility teams.
The Division 1 women's hockey need bow down to NO ONE in terms of whether or not it qualifies as a state of hockey program. Gopher women's hockey is a consistent beacon of excellence in an otherwise fairly mediocre hockey landscape. That doesn't mean that I think Gopher women's hockey is superior to Badger women's hockey. I used to think that but do not think it now and will not think it again until the results of the games between the two teams begin to reflect such a shift in the scales. For now, I only say that Gopher women's hockey is excellent and need not apologize to anyone.
That's what I think.
Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
If you want to compare Minnesota hockey vs. Wisconsin hockey - male or female - it's not even close! While Wisconsin produces some great individual players - and we are fortunate to have had several on our womens' team, including the very talented Amanda Kessel - just look at the numbers. Whether you're looking at the number of NHL draft choices, or the numbers participating in D1 hockey (both mens and womens), Minnesota is clearly WAY ahead of its neighbor to the east!
I do agree with you about the Wild, but as with any other NHL team they are drafting players on a worldwide basis, and their management and coaching related results have little to do with the quality of players being produced from within Minnesota. And for D1 womens hockey in particular, given the quality of incoming Minnesota-born and raised recruits for this year and next, I believe we are now ready to challenge Wisconsin for WCHA and NCAA supremacy!
If you want to compare Minnesota hockey vs. Wisconsin hockey - male or female - it's not even close! While Wisconsin produces some great individual players - and we are fortunate to have had several on our womens' team, including the very talented Amanda Kessel - just look at the numbers. Whether you're looking at the number of NHL draft choices, or the numbers participating in D1 hockey (both mens and womens), Minnesota is clearly WAY ahead of its neighbor to the east!
I do agree with you about the Wild, but as with any other NHL team they are drafting players on a worldwide basis, and their management and coaching related results have little to do with the quality of players being produced from within Minnesota. And for D1 womens hockey in particular, given the quality of incoming Minnesota-born and raised recruits for this year and next, I believe we are now ready to challenge Wisconsin for WCHA and NCAA supremacy!
brookyone
Deport Right Wing Nuts
Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
*"Grassroots." That's what I was trying to say.
Apologies, back to Badger hockey topics now.
Never been a fan of the Wild myself. I was a big North Star and NHL fan before Norm made them disappear. When the NHL returned to Minnesota, it looked like a very different game to me and I lost interest in the NHL altogether. Been to three Wild games. I prefered hockey games to rock concerts with a little hockey in between sets. It's still a good thing for the state and metro to have a pro franchise and having that is a plus for the undeniable hockey culture that does exist in the state. So I guess I can't concur that among the states in the union the "State of Hockey" moniker is total BS and of little / no significance. It may only have meaning to the relatively small segment of certified hockey nuts in the state...but that segment isn't really that small in Minnesota.
My own measuring stick is focused more on quality than quantity. Despite the participant numbers, Minnesota is not...never will be The State of Basketball. When I watch the State Tournament for each sport, boys and girls, to me there looks to be no comparison in quality of play. I think it's actually the players and teams at every level outside the realm of pro and college hockey that are the basis, foundation, heart and soul, bulk...or whatever you want to label it, of the hockey culture in the state.* So requiring better success from those higher visibility teams to justify The State of Hockey moniker just isn't a requirement for me.
UW hockey is an excellent division I hockey program both men and women. Great tradition. For some strange reason I never feel the urge to take 'em down a peg or two. I hope the Gophers can beat them soon. I would enjoy that. That would be quite satisfactory for me.
*"Grassroots." That's what I was trying to say.
Apologies, back to Badger hockey topics now.
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Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
Amen to that. Most of the time when Minnesotans boast about their hockey its nothing but exaggeration and empty bragging.
WHKY blogger
Renegade Badger
Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
BTD says Defender Jordan Brickner (Colgate) from Lake Forest, IL
BTD says Defender Jordan Brickner (Colgate) from Lake Forest, IL
Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
Wisconsin announces Koch's return as an assistant coach. http://www.uwbadgers.com/sports/w-hockey/spec-rel/070611aab.html
Wisconsin announces Koch's return as an assistant coach. http://www.uwbadgers.com/sports/w-hockey/spec-rel/070611aab.html
Badger Booster
Registered User
Re: Wisconsin Badgers Off-Season '11
Congrats to Dan for coming back to Madison to take over, what I assume, is the #1 assistant spot.
On another note, I realize it's 3-4 monts after the fact, but it still bothers me that the NCAA Division 1 Women's Hockey Final Four can't find a spot anywhere on TV. Especially, when I see all the non-sports (poker, pool, table tennis, skateboarding, etc) that have been on major sports channels since then.
Congrats to Dan for coming back to Madison to take over, what I assume, is the #1 assistant spot.
On another note, I realize it's 3-4 monts after the fact, but it still bothers me that the NCAA Division 1 Women's Hockey Final Four can't find a spot anywhere on TV. Especially, when I see all the non-sports (poker, pool, table tennis, skateboarding, etc) that have been on major sports channels since then.