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Wisconsin Badgers 2019-2020 Season Thread

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2019-2020 Season Thread

Timothy A said:
It's almost an inconsequential game in regards to the NCAA's for UW, and to me it's all about getting home ice for the NCAA's. ... If the Dwagettes win the wwcha, they are headed to Madison or Rodentapolis, correct?
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If Wisconsin loses in the semi, they might very well drop to #3 in the Pairwise, and that might very well mean a quarterfinal against Ohio State. Staying at #2 would more likely mean Clarkson. So that feels 'consequential' to me. But then, what I always say about a tournament is 'you play a pretty good team who just got done beating a pretty good team'. So...

I don't know if Duluth would get sent to Madison or back to Minneapolis for their quarterfinal should they win the WCHA. But it would be one or the other, yes.
 
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robertearle said:
If Wisconsin loses in the semi, they might very well drop to #3 in the Pairwise, and that might very well mean a quarterfinal against Ohio State.
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I don't know of a scenario where UW drops below #2.

robertearle said:
I don't know if Duluth would get sent to Madison or back to Minneapolis for their quarterfinal should they win the WCHA. But it would be one or the other, yes.
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Because OSU is still in play, I would think that Duluth goes to Madison. The exception would be if Duluth, Harvard, a HEA team other than Northeastern, and a CHA team all get auto bids, at which point I assume that OSU is out.

Really I only see two possible ways that UMD vs UW can play out: 1) UMD has no legs early and immediately falls into a multi-goal hole; 2) UMD gives it a good try but runs out of gas after about 30 minutes. The Badgers will win their semifinal, period.
 
ARM said:
I don't know of a scenario where UW drops below #2.

Because OSU is still in play, I would think that Duluth goes to Madison. The exception would be if Duluth, Harvard, a HEA team other than Northeastern, and a CHA team all get auto bids, at which point I assume that OSU is out.

Really I only see two possible ways that UMD vs UW can play out: 1) UMD has no legs early and immediately falls into a multi-goal hole; 2) UMD gives it a good try but runs out of gas after about 30 minutes. The Badgers will win their semifinal, period.
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UMD’s legs looked fine on Sunday and won’t be an issue but WI will win anyway. MJ must have found a way to light a fire under his Badgers this week and they’ll finally play a full 60 minutes up to their potential.
 
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ARM said:
I don't know of a scenario where UW drops below #2.
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(One of the reasons I suggested a set of 'defaults' to Grant in his predictor tool)

1) Load the defaults. 2) Change WCHA winner from Wisconsin to Minnesota.

Minnesota move to #2 and Wisconsin to #3.
 
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robertearle said:
(One of the reasons I suggested a set of 'defaults' to Grant in his predictor tool)

1) Load the defaults. 2) Change WCHA winner from Wisconsin to Minnesota.

Minnesota move to #2 and Wisconsin to #3.
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Thanks.

Don't you just love the PairWise? UW can lock up #2 by losing a semi, but not by winning. Stupid system.
 
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ARM said:
Thanks.

Don't you just love the PairWise? UW can lock up #2 by losing a semi, but not by winning. Stupid system.
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This is entirely a function of including head-to-head matchups in PWR. Minnesota passes Wisconsin in RPI in most situations in which they win the WCHA final, but lose the pairing on a combination of common opponents (thanks largely to the tie with BC) and the extra point the Badgers get from head-to-head. The Gophers need to equalize the latter criterion, and have RPI be the tiebreaker.
 
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robertearle said:
If Wisconsin loses in the semi, they might very well drop to #3 in the Pairwise, and that might very well mean a quarterfinal against Ohio State. Staying at #2 would more likely mean Clarkson. So that feels 'consequential' to me. But then, what I always say about a tournament is 'you play a pretty good team who just got done beating a pretty good team'. So...

I don't know if Duluth would get sent to Madison or back to Minneapolis for their quarterfinal should they win the WCHA. But it would be one or the other, yes.
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I really don't want another wwcha match in the ncaa's for the sake that it is boring to play someone for a 5th or 6th time. I want to see another team. I really enjoyed the Princeton game last year, someone new to watch. Unless you get the CHA chumpion, there will not be an easy out. And THEN, UW and UM will be the 2/3 and they will play in the semi. Somehow UM and UW need to get together and figure out how one of them can get to the 4th seed.
 
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Timothy A said:
...and figure out how one of them can get to the 4th seed.
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If Wisconsin wins the WCHA, Cornell loses in their semi, and Minn loses to Ohio state in their semi, Wisconsin can get to #1... and Minn to #4.

Is that what you had in mind? :-)

(Wisconsin win, Minn loss in the semis and Cornell wins their semi, and Wisconsin can be #2 with Minn #4.)
 
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robertearle said:
If Wisconsin wins the WCHA, Cornell loses in their semi, and Minn loses to Ohio state in their semi, Wisconsin can get to #1... and Minn to #4....
(Wisconsin win, Minn loss in the semis and Cornell wins their semi, and Wisconsin can be #2 with Minn #4.)
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Makes you just love this time of year. The possibilities, of which there are still many, are coming into focus, as the games get so much tougher...
 
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Timothy A said:
It's a great day for hockey! Let's go RED!
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Similar dynamic to last Sunday: if Cornell loses today, Wisconsin can catch them by beating either Minnesota or Ohio State; but if Cornell doesn't lose until tomorrow, it would take a win over Minnesota - better RPI boost, better Quality Win Bonus, etc - to catch them.

And that all depends on taking care of Duluth today, of course.

(I watched the first half or so of the men last next. Wow! So who do you start at goal tonight? Bloomquist?)
 
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robertearle said:
Similar dynamic to last Sunday: if Cornell loses today, Wisconsin can catch them by beating either Minnesota or Ohio State; but if Cornell doesn't lose until tomorrow, it would take a win over Minnesota - better RPI boost, better Quality Win Bonus, etc - to catch them.

And that all depends on taking care of Duluth today, of course.

(I watched the first half or so of the men last next. Wow! So who do you start at goal tonight? Bloomquist?)
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Turns out there's a way for UW to get to #1 even if Ohio State wins their semi, but JUST barely.

Robert Morris wins CHA (they;re leading right now), UCONN beats Northeastern (UCONN winning their semi right now), and Princeton beats Cornell (Princeton winning their semi right now).

Then a win by UW over Ohio State puts Wisconsin ahead of Cornell by 0.00002 (!). It would round to a flatout tie on the USCHO page, but Grant goes one decimal point farther.

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(Adding, a win by Northeastern over UCONN, with all the rest the same, and Cornell beats UW by 0.00003. Would also round to a tie on USCHO.)
 
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robertearle said:
Turns out there's a way for UW to get to #1 even if Ohio State wins their semi, but JUST barely.

Robert Morris wins CHA (they;re leading right now), UCONN beats Northeastern (UCONN winning their semi right now), and Princeton beats Cornell (Princeton winning their semi right now).

Then a win by UW over Ohio State puts Wisconsin ahead of Cornell by 0.00002 (!). It would round to a flatout tie on the USCHO page, but Grant goes one decimal point farther.

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(Adding, a win by Northeastern over UCONN, with all the rest the same, and Cornell beats UW by 0.00003. Would also round to a tie on USCHO.)
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OK, scratch that. Mercyhurst wins CHA.

If Wisconsin wants to get to #1, it has to come with a win over Minnesota (and a Cornell loss, etc.)
 
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Well, a disappointing end to the regular season. Luckily UW didn't have anything at stake in the game. Gotta score more than 0 to win a hockey game. I wish the PP just moved the puck faster and shot more. Soup cleaned up a few messes in front of her, but couldn't clean up the last one. UW just didn't create enough quality offense. I just wish he'd put the big line back together and run with it. I wanted UW very badly in the 3rd period and OT to run the 4th line out there a few times and just use them to suck the life out of OSU. In the OT it was clear that UW was just about as tired as OSU.

I invite the Clarkson posters to stop by and give us a rundown of Clarkson. I think I read somewhere they had injury issues and Giguere was basically carrying the team. What is their goaltending situation like?
 
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Timothy A said:
Well, a disappointing end to the regular season. Luckily UW didn't have anything at stake in the game. Gotta score more than 0 to win a hockey game. I wish the PP just moved the puck faster and shot more. Soup cleaned up a few messes in front of her, but couldn't clean up the last one. UW just didn't create enough quality offense. I just wish he'd put the big line back together and run with it. I wanted UW very badly in the 3rd period and OT to run the 4th line out there a few times and just use them to suck the life out of OSU. In the OT it was clear that UW was just about as tired as OSU.

I invite the Clarkson posters to stop by and give us a rundown of Clarkson. I think I read somewhere they had injury issues and Giguere was basically carrying the team. What is their goaltending situation like?
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Giguere scored fully one third of their goal total, 37 of 111. They had only two other players with as many as ten goals - 14, and 10 (and I assume from the assist totals that they were probably Giguere's linemates.)

So for this game, 'the big line' vs their 'big line' might make a lot of sense.
 
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robertearle said:
Giguere scored fully one third of their goal total, 37 of 111. They had only two other players with as many as ten goals - 14, and 10 (and I assume from the assist totals that they were probably Giguere's linemates.)

So for this game, 'the big line' vs their 'big line' might make a lot of sense.
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Do it and smother them. Superline it is. Or do they have the Roque line smother them and have the Pettet line abuse their 2nd line?
 
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Timothy A said:
Do it and smother them. Superline it is. Or do they have the Roque line smother them and have the Pettet line abuse their 2nd line?
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What worries me is the offense gets shut down like today, and Giguere pulls off one bit of magic.
 
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