Wisconsin Badgers 2019-2020 Season Thread

[Still Eeyore]

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2019-2020 Season Thread

"...It's that, of their last 112 shots, only three have gone in..."

And prior to that, 16 of 80 went in (in two games).

Randomness. 'Regression to the mean'. Small sample sizes. Etc Etc.

"Regression to the mean" in this case meaning "playing someone other than St Cloud."

 

[robertearle]

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"Regression to the mean" in this case meaning "playing someone other than St Cloud."

... whose goalie shut out Bemidji Saturday on 41 shots.

Randomness, Small sample sizes.

 

[robertearle]

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I was in the 200's as well

It just baffles me how they decide to assign seats for the 'assigned seat' games. For 'Fill the Bowl' in 2014, I had an excellent seat: section 123, pretty much immediately adjacent to the 'family section' - Jenny Ryan's mom sat next to me for a while and we chatted, until she realized she was in the wrong row. In 2017, I was way over in 111 (I think), about even with one of the goals, and 25 rows up - not great. Yesterday almost dead center center ice, 108, seven rows up. Same with NCAA games at LaBahn: one year great seat, the next not so great. No rhyme or reason.

(One year for NCAA, they gave me a ticket for one row off where my 'usual' seat for LaBahn games is, the seat I take when I'm there early enough to seat just anywhere I choose. Right seat number, one row off. It was borderline creepy; how did they know?)

I hope your 200 seat was something really good; 207/209 or 221/223 blue line, etc. The first couple rows up there are awesome seats. Otherwise, season ticket holder really shouldn't have been in the 200s.

 

[Timothy A]

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It just baffles me how they decide to assign seats for the 'assigned seat' games. For 'Fill the Bowl' in 2014, I had an excellent seat: section 123, pretty much immediately adjacent to the 'family section' - Jenny Ryan's mom sat next to me for a while and we chatted, until she realized she was in the wrong row. In 2017, I was way over in 111 (I think), about even with one of the goals, and 25 rows up - not great. Yesterday almost dead center center ice, 108, seven rows up. Same with NCAA games at LaBahn: one year great seat, the next not so great. No rhyme or reason.

(One year for NCAA, they gave me a ticket for one row off where my 'usual' seat for LaBahn games is, the seat I take when I'm there early enough to seat just anywhere I choose. Right seat number, one row off. It was borderline creepy; how did they know?)

I hope your 200 seat was something really good; 207/209 or 221/223 blue line, etc. The first couple rows up there are awesome seats. Otherwise, season ticket holder really shouldn't have been in the 200s.

Actually my 2 season ticket seats were in 119 I think, but I bought 10 more for a group in the first row of 224. I really like sitting on the first row in the 200's or 300's, the view of the play is so awesome. I sat with my group in the 224 row, the 2 lower bowl tickets sadly went unused. I don't want to rain on the parade of the awesome attendance, but there is no way there was 14000+ butts in the seats.

 

[robertearle]

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Actually my 2 season ticket seats were in 119 I think, but I bought 10 more for a group in the first row of 224. I really like sitting on the first row in the 200's or 300's, the view of the play is so awesome. I sat with my group in the 224 row, the 2 lower bowl tickets sadly went unused. I don't want to rain on the parade of the awesome attendance, but there is no way there was 14000+ butts in the seats.

Every year, sometime later in the spring, the Athletic Dept will announce the numbers for tickets scanned vs tickets sold (not just for hockey, but for all sports). I actually went back and looked it up recently, though I don't have it in front of me right now. But IIRC, Fill The Bowl ran about 2/3rds actually scanned vs the number sold. In 2017, the 15K announced meant a little over 10K actually in the seats. So expect something like 9K to have been there Sunday.

"Only" 9000 showing up for a women's hockey game! Does that equal Hockey East's entire season, all teams?



EDIT (now that I'm out of bed and at my computer, not on a tablet):
Here is the link where I found the 'scanned vs sold' numbers. From the WI State Journal, and Todd M (of course). If you scroll down to the table for the game-by-game, you'll see a 'bar' when you can pull up prior years and their numbers. 2017, eg, 15,359 sold, 10,247 scanned.

https://madison.com/wsj/sports/coll...cle_44453830-58f6-52df-b8c0-7ad91dc8b48a.html

 

[Timothy A]

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2019-2020 Season Thread

"Only" 9000 showing up for a women's hockey game! Does that equal Hockey East's entire season, all teams?

Probably the ezac and hockey easy combined. LOL

From where I was, the atmosphere wasn't as great as in Labahn though. All the noise and yelling kinda gets lost in the volume of the air and the 7000+ causal fans.

 

[gwhinwi]

Probably the ezac and hockey easy combined. LOL

From where I was, the atmosphere wasn't as great as in Labahn though. All the noise and yelling kinda gets lost in the volume of the air and the 7000+ causal fans.

But still louder than the men's games from this season.

 

[Timothy A]

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But still louder than the men's games from this season.

Absolutely.

 

[NMH]

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9,000 would be more than all-but four teams pulled in all season - Wisconsin, Minnesota, Cornell and UMD https://www.uscho.com/stats/attendance/division-i-women/

 

[D2D]

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2019-2020 Season Thread

9,000 would be more than all-but four teams pulled in all season - Wisconsin, Minnesota, Cornell and UMD https://www.uscho.com/stats/attendance/division-i-women/

Hats off to Wisconsin - and their fans - for leading the nation, both in the number of fans overall and in average attendance. Need to point out, however, that said figures are very much distorted by the one "Fill the Bowl" event. Kudos to Wisconsin for having it once a year at where the men's team plays, instead of their own rink. But without this one special event the attendance numbers between the Badgers and the Gophers would be pretty much a wash. And one could argue that Wisconsin's numbers should be higher than they are, considering the fact that they've been ranked No. 1 for most of the season.

All that said, I do wish our women's D1 hockey sport (which we all love here) generated much greater fan interest and attendance numbers than is currently the case. When looked at it this way, Wisconsin and Minnesota are leading the way.

 

[Timothy A]

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All that said, I do wish our women's D1 hockey sport (which we all love here) generated much greater fan interest and attendance numbers than is currently the case. When looked at it this way, Wisconsin and Minnesota are leading the way.

It is truly sad to turn on UW/Kato and see like 14 people in the stands. It's shocking that the fine inhabitants of Mankato MN in the state of hockey really could care less about women's hockey. It sends the wrong message, but the you can't deny the facts. It's even sadder that a huge city like Baustin doesn't have a couple thousand at each BC or BU game. Everyone is saying that the women's game is growing, but in hockeycentric locations aside of UM and UW no one seems to put their butt where there mouth is. What's really neat is Minneapolis St Paul has 3.4+ million people in it and Madison has 259,000, but UW had lead the country in attendance without a fill the Kohl event for like forever. On Wisconsin!

 

[Sieve1]

It is truly sad to turn on UW/Kato and see like 14 people in the stands. It's shocking that the fine inhabitants of Mankato MN in the state of hockey really could care less about women's hockey. It sends the wrong message, but the you can't deny the facts. It's even sadder that a huge city like Baustin doesn't have a couple thousand at each BC or BU game. Everyone is saying that the women's game is growing, but in hockeycentric locations aside of UM and UW no one seems to put their butt where there mouth is. What's really neat is Minneapolis St Paul has 3.4+ million people in it and Madison has 259,000, but UW had lead the country in attendance without a fill the Kohl event for like forever. On Wisconsin!

Good points all around but reality is that there are several options for hockey fans in the state of hockey. From the Wild all the way down to high school hockey, which can draw really large crowds. UW women have a great fan base, no doubt. But they aren’t competing with a lot of hockey options in Madison or the state of Wi, other than the men’s team or possibly the Madison Capitols juniors team. But you really can’t compare the hockey scene in MN to that in Wi or any other state. Its just different

 

[robertearle]

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WI State Journal reporter Todd M tweets that WKOW TV is picking up this weekend's telecasts from Duluth and putting them on their digital channel 27.3, where they otherwise have one of those rerun channels, 'Decades'.

I have no idea what that means on a local cable system or DISH or Hulu or ... If you switch to where 'Decades' is, do you get the game? And what about outside Madison.

But I get to watch them on my regular over-the-air TV. YAY!

 

[Still Eeyore]

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Good points all around but reality is that there are several options for hockey fans in the state of hockey. From the Wild all the way down to high school hockey, which can draw really large crowds. UW women have a great fan base, no doubt. But they aren’t competing with a lot of hockey options in Madison or the state of Wi, other than the men’s team or possibly the Madison Capitols juniors team. But you really can’t compare the hockey scene in MN to that in Wi or any other state. Its just different

Keep in mind that the "State of Hockey" is really only a thing north of I-94, plus the Twin Cities suburbs/exurbs and Rochester. The southwest third of the state is basketball territory.

 

[Timothy A]

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Keep in mind that the "State of Hockey" is really only a thing north of I-94, plus the Twin Cities suburbs/exurbs and Rochester. The southwest third of the state is basketball territory.

WATT!?!?! I've been lied to all these years? Hockey is only a regional thing in MN? I suppose now someone is going to tell me landing on Saturn was just a big lie too. Geepers.

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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I suppose now someone is going to tell me landing on Saturn was just a big lie too. Geepers.

No, but Paul McCartney died in 1966...
Elvis is still alive...
The CIA executed JFK...
The 1969 Moon landing was a staged event...
9/11 was an orchestrated, controlled demolition...
TWA fight 800 was shot down by a surface to air missile...

And yes, Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself...

 

[Timothy A]

Re: Wisconsin Badgers 2019-2020 Season Thread

No, but Paul McCartney died in 1966...
Elvis is still alive...
The CIA executed JFK...
The 1969 Moon landing was a staged event...
9/11 was an orchestrated, controlled demolition...
TWA fight 800 was shot down by a surface to air missile...

And yes, Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself...

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Hey, it's a great day for hockey! True for sure.

As much as I hate getting the bye in the wwcha, I vote for retaining first place this year and winning the regular season title.

 

[Timothy A]

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Robert, can you provide some insight as to how UW only had 2 sog in the first period? I might just go out an buy an antenna to watch Sunday's game. If the travel trailer wasn't snugged away and winterized, I could probably watch it in there.

 

[robertearle]

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Robert, can you provide some insight as to how UW only had 2 sog in the first period? I might just go out an buy an antenna to watch Sunday's game. If the travel trailer wasn't snugged away and winterized, I could probably watch it in there.

There were times when pressure from the Duluth fore check had them bottled up pretty good - ice the puck, or clear to center ice and go for a 'dump and change'. But much of the period didn't 'feel' that way. I bet if we could find a box score where they reported both 'shots' and 'shots on goal', the 'shots' stats would look more 'normal'. Duluth was doing a good job of blocking shots and keep them from getting to Rooney. And twice S Shirley had really great 'breakaway' type chances where the puck rolled off her stick.

In the second, they got a couple lucky bounces that turned into fairly easy goals, and penalties help 'tilt the ice'; the box score says five PPs, but at least two of them were shortened by overlapping calls against the Badgers - all legit calls; the Duluth TV announcer even said a couple times that he though UMD got away with others that probably should have been called; Roque getting tackled on a 'chip and chase' that should have been holding/interference, for one. Eeyore favorite ref, Ludwig, brought his whistle to the game for once.

What might have been Rooney's more impressive save came on a quick shot from the faceoff circle from one of her defensemen (!) The TV guy said it "only" hit the pipe, but I think she got a piece of it to deflect it into the pipe. The D player was, of course, going for a pass off th board behind goal, and 'missed'.



Adding: the UW web site has a play-by-play recount of the game. Shots in the first period were 10-to-7 in favor of UMD.

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Another quality win from the men's team last night. They've had a good number of them this year. Too bad they can't seem to play that way more consistently.

 

[Timothy A]

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Robert, insight part 2?