Wisconsin Badgers 2016-2017

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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Hmm, I guess I should have written that 24 hours earlier. Even with Minnesota down Cameranesi (which is obviously a big deal), I didn't expect that kind of game. There may have been more defensive breakdowns and bad goals given up by Minnesota in one afternoon against Wisconsin than over the last 5-6 years combined (that I've witnessed). Then add in a better energy level by the Badgers and multiple highlight goals and here we are. After a frustrating loss Saturday, I wasn't sure if they would come back playing tight or night. Whatever was said or done from one game to the next worked in a big way.

Personally, my favorite plays were the assists from Norby to Nurse and the Roque assist to Welhaussen. Those were great plays against anyone, but almost never seen against Minnesota.

Ultimately, both teams got what they needed, though not necessarily wanted, from the weekend if that makes any sense. Minnesota gets the split on the road short-handed, and Wisconsin gets the payback game to hopefully show that the Gophers aren't in their head again.

Kind of the same with what I responded to about your original post. I was expecting Wisconsin to have a better game Sunday but not the breakdown from Minnesota in virtually every aspect of their game. Like you said something you just don't see from Minnesota. I was somewhat in shock watching it.

 

[Timothy A]

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I was somewhat in shock watching it.

Everyone was shocked watching it. We won't see a score like that between these 2 teams in the next 5 years minimum.

 

[Timothy A]

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Thanks for beating the goofs when I wasn't there. Just kidding of course. I was at the Saturday game and even though the Badgers didn't win, it's still fun at those games. For those that were at both games, what was the difference. Was there a different goalie, although I don't think the Gopher goalie was tested Saturday? Were they just pumped up?

UM had some bad turnovers at their blueline that lead to goals, UM didn't tie up nonpuck carriers on odd man rushes, Peters looked bad on partial breaks. UW did not score off of sustained pressure, it was all on the rush.

 

[KTDC]

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I thought Wellhausens first goal was the most impressive as she stole the puck from a Gopher player at center ice and then BLEW by and between both defensemen to score while being hauled down from behind.. A really spectacular individual effort!

Yes. I mentioned this on the Gopher thread, to me this play was a microcosm of the game-Wellhausen and the Badgers played better, wanted it more, and just killed the Gophers with their intensity.

The BTN+ archive of the game has a nice extended shot of the Wisconsin bench after this goal, because Minnesota called time-out. The camera settles on Sydney McKibbon for a long time and then shifts to a really happy (as you can imagine) Baylee Wellhausen. Should be tough to watch as a Gopher fan I suppose, but hey they stuck it to us.

The whole game is shown from a camera in the corner of the rink, a lot different than the Fox Sports version.

 

[WiscDC]

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Today was the 2nd time I've seen the drill bit get stuck in the ice. It happened a few years ago on the other end. This time it too way longer to fix. Keystone cops for sure.

It happened last year in the same hole. (I'm about 80% sure on that...it could have been the year before.) They brought the torch out way earlier that time, and that's what we were waiting for.

 

[rangersrule]

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Yes. I mentioned this on the Gopher thread, to me this play was a microcosm of the game-Wellhausen and the Badgers played better, wanted it more, and just killed the Gophers with their intensity.

The BTN+ archive of the game has a nice extended shot of the Wisconsin bench after this goal, because Minnesota called time-out. The camera settles on Sydney McKibbon for a long time and then shifts to a really happy (as you can imagine) Baylee Wellhausen. Should be tough to watch as a Gopher fan I suppose, but hey they stuck it to us.

The whole game is shown from a camera in the corner of the rink, a lot different than the Fox Sports version.

No doubt Sunday was a huge win for Wisconsin. A statement win some would say! But the one thing this team hasn't been good at all year has been on the power play. Another 0-for weekend and running at around 11% this season. Last night I looked over the UW Badger stats and noticed that Wellhausen was second on the team in goals (7), first on the team in game winning goals (3), and 4th on the team in shots on goal with 58 I believe. Yet when I watch this team play she gets zero time on the power play. Look, I don't pretend to know more than I know but, if the power play isn't working then something has to change doesn't it? This team has a lot of depth up front and whether it's Wellhausen or another player a different look on the power play wouldn't hurt. There is way too much talent on this team to not dominate with the man advantage!

 

[FiveHoleFrenzy]

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No doubt Sunday was a huge win for Wisconsin. A statement win some would say! But the one thing this team hasn't been good at all year has been on the power play. Another 0-for weekend and running at around 11% this season. Last night I looked over the UW Badger stats and noticed that Wellhausen was second on the team in goals (7), first on the team in game winning goals (3), and 4th on the team in shots on goal with 58 I believe. Yet when I watch this team play she gets zero time on the power play. Look, I don't pretend to know more than I know but, if the power play isn't working then something has to change doesn't it? This team has a lot of depth up front and whether it's Wellhausen or another player a different look on the power play wouldn't hurt. There is way too much talent on this team to not dominate with the man advantage!

That is a head scratcher. There is a 5 ( 8 vs 3) goal differential between power play goals and shorthanded goals they have scored. It almost seems they are as likely to score shorthaned as they are on the power play.

It is also unusual to see Wisconsin's penalty kill below 90% so it is dead even between power play goals scored and given up (8-8). Very interesting numbers which show how dominant Wisconsin is even strength.

 

[brokentwig]

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That is a head scratcher. There is a 5 ( 8 vs 3) goal differential between power play goals and shorthanded goals they have scored. It almost seems they are as likely to score shorthaned as they are on the power play.

It is also unusual to see Wisconsin's penalty kill below 90% so it is dead even between power play goals scored and given up (8-8). Very interesting numbers which show how dominant Wisconsin is even strength.

After watching both games this weekend I wonder about the goaltenders for both teams. There were a couple of snipes but most of the goals were from monster rebounds or from shots down low. When will we see Emma May?

 

[pensrule]

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After watching both games this weekend I wonder about the goaltenders for both teams. There were a couple of snipes but most of the goals were from monster rebounds or from shots down low. When will we see Emma May?

Huh? I don't quite follow what you are talking about! You "wonder about the goaltenders for BOTH teams"? As a Badger fan I can assure you there is no "wondering" about Anne Renee Desbien!!

 

[rangersrule]

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Does anyone have any info regarding this weekends games vs Ohio State as to whether or not they will be video streamed? Cost?

 

[gwhinwi]

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The games for this weekend look to be on Buckeye Vision at a cost of $10 for one month.

Maybe something will show up on BTN Plus, but at this point, that doesn't look like it's going to happen.

 

[Timothy A]

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The games for this weekend look to be on Buckeye Vision at a cost of $10 for one month.

Maybe something will show up on BTN Plus, but at this point, that doesn't look like it's going to happen.

I'll probably not drop the coin to watch the games, though I really want to.

A few thoughts that have percolating inside my somewhat empty noggin....

I'm just not satisfied with the Panny/Clark/Cogan line. I thought Cogan looked sluggish this weekend, perhaps I only noticed her when she was at the end of the shift, not sure. Irregardless, I'd like to see Mauermann practice the whole week with Panny and Clark and play the OSU weekend with her. She has more speed and is more shifty, maybe her pinballing around the O zone and flying in transition will spark Clark and Panny. Clark and Panny are not scoring based on their past performances.

PP woes continue. I say screw the specific packages, run 3 lines out there and have each line run different plays to keep the pk off balance. Something has to change there. There will be an important game where going 0-5 will cost them big-time.

Seems to me Shaver's stick is too long or maybe her hands are too slow, she just doesn't have a quick enough stick along the boards to win more one on one battles along the boards. (when I play my sons in the basement, I use a shorter stick for improved maneuverability along the boards, er walls). I can see when next year's class of F gets here that Cogan and Shaver may slip down the line-up. There's a lot of shifty speedsters on the horizon.

Very important for UW to have a business like trip out east and win 2 @ OSU. I can easily see a let-down after the rodent annihilation.

 

[Puckdrop14]

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Both teams are likely to be on a high so the letdown could go both ways. As for watching the game(s), you can pay the $10 and then cancel your membership after the weekend. I have done this before hassle free.

 

[pensrule]

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I'll probably not drop the coin to watch the games, though I really want to.

A few thoughts that have percolating inside my somewhat empty noggin....

I'm just not satisfied with the Panny/Clark/Cogan line. I thought Cogan looked sluggish this weekend, perhaps I only noticed her when she was at the end of the shift, not sure. Irregardless, I'd like to see Mauermann practice the whole week with Panny and Clark and play the OSU weekend with her. She has more speed and is more shifty, maybe her pinballing around the O zone and flying in transition will spark Clark and Panny. Clark and Panny are not scoring based on their past performances.

PP woes continue. I say screw the specific packages, run 3 lines out there and have each line run different plays to keep the pk off balance. Something has to change there. There will be an important game where going 0-5 will cost them big-time.

Seems to me Shaver's stick is too long or maybe her hands are too slow, she just doesn't have a quick enough stick along the boards to win more one on one battles along the boards. (when I play my sons in the basement, I use a shorter stick for improved maneuverability along the boards, er walls). I can see when next year's class of F gets here that Cogan and Shaver may slip down the line-up. There's a lot of shifty speedsters on the horizon.

Very important for UW to have a business like trip out east and win 2 @ OSU. I can easily see a let-down after the rodent annihilation.

Interesting observations. It does seem that Cogan seems a bit slow and there really hasn't been a ton of chemistry on the Badgers first line. Not sure but, I doubt the line will be broken up at all and definitely not going into this weekend. Maybe you will see the coaches spot Mauermann a few shifts here and there on that line. I agree that they should just run all 3 lines straight through on the power play. When this team fore checks aggressively, the opponent has a heck of a time breaking out or even touching the puck. Just keep attacking 5 vs. 4 the same way they do 5 vs. 5 and they will create countless chances. Sometimes coaches can overthink things and try to match up a little too much. Just go out and win the puck battles and play hockey! I bet the results will be better than trying to set up one high percentage shot at a time.

One thing I wouldn't change would be the third line. Shaver/Roque/Wellhausen have been really good this season and especially over the last 5-6 games or so. Roque is becoming a dominant center and Wellhausen is scoring some big goals - some of the highlight variety! Shaver's size and speed compliments each player very well. This line is as good as most teams first line and they are a match up problem for any coach to deal with. They just simply outwork the other team each and every shift!

 

[Badger Booster]

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Wisconsin flexing on Ohio State, up 6-0 after 2 periods. Both Pankowski and Ryan have two goals. The first line has busted out tonight with Cogan and Clark also lighting the lamp. Fortunately, no letdown game tonight.

 

[Badger Booster]

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Wellhausen tacks on another and Badgers win 7-0. 15 goals over the last 2 games and Desbiens notches another shutout. A good day for Wisconsin women's athletics against Ohio State.

 

[Timothy A]

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Wisconsin flexing on Ohio State, up 6-0 after 2 periods. Both Pankowski and Ryan have two goals. The first line has busted out tonight with Cogan and Clark also lighting the lamp. Fortunately, no letdown game tonight.

Yes! No letdown. Very stoked to score that many against Sauve, she's really good. Of course I call out the Cogan/Clark/Pankowski line and they bag a zillion points yesterday. Who should I motivate next? Shaver's been a little quiet lately and the Nurse/McKibbon/Norby line was relatively unproductive yesterday. Slackers.

0-4 pf the pp! Come on, this is ridiculous.

Looking at the box score, looks like Johnson got some time on the Pankowski/Clark group and netted 2 assists. Maybe they are tinkering with that line after all.

 

[Badger Booster]

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0-4 pf the pp! Come on, this is ridiculous.

It's great that they are kicking butt even strength, but PP is floundering at 11% which is preposterous. Going back to the four title teams, they averaged a little over 25%, with no year being under 20%. Initially chalked it up to small sample size, but we are now 19 games in.

 

[Timothy A]

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It's great that they are kicking butt even strength, but PP is floundering at 11% which is preposterous. Going back to the four title teams, they averaged a little over 25%, with no year being under 20%. Initially chalked it up to small sample size, but we are now 19 games in.

They are going to need the PP in the wcha tourney and ncaa's. They have time to and better get it figured out. The PK is also a little less effective than we're used to seeing from UW. Here's an interesting thought, run 4 or 5 forwards out on the PP. The UW D are not offensively dynamic, I could see Clark and Roque running the point and put Pankowski in front to tip and bang, and post Nurse/Norby/Mauermann in sniper spots. They need to move the puck quicker and shoot quicker. The nice thing with Roque and Clark is if a F pressures them at the point, they have the ability to stick handle around them and create a 5 on 3.

At the half way pole, other than special teams, the season is meeting expectations. The scoring depth is great, the top 3 lines have 57, 49 and 39 points. Pankowski has come alive, which is great. The freshmen F have fit right in. The team D is stellar as usual. Cece got some valuable playing time. ARD is so fantastic. Her GAA is .5 better than her closest rival, she has the most shutouts in the country and she's .002 behind the save percentage leader. When does the ARD4PK get fired up?

Only 11 more home games left.

 

[rangersrule]

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They are going to need the PP in the wcha tourney and ncaa's. They have time to and better get it figured out. The PK is also a little less effective than we're used to seeing from UW. Here's an interesting thought, run 4 or 5 forwards out on the PP. The UW D are not offensively dynamic, I could see Clark and Roque running the point and put Pankowski in front to tip and bang, and post Nurse/Norby/Mauermann in sniper spots. They need to move the puck quicker and shoot quicker. The nice thing with Roque and Clark is if a F pressures them at the point, they have the ability to stick handle around them and create a 5 on 3.

At the half way pole, other than special teams, the season is meeting expectations. The scoring depth is great, the top 3 lines have 57, 49 and 39 points. Pankowski has come alive, which is great. The freshmen F have fit right in. The team D is stellar as usual. Cece got some valuable playing time. ARD is so fantastic. Her GAA is .5 better than her closest rival, she has the most shutouts in the country and she's .002 behind the save percentage leader. When does the ARD4PK get fired up?

Only 11 more home games left.

I agree that the Badgers will need their power play to get going in the second half. It is pretty incredible that they are having the season they are having with it only operating at 11% efficiency. I'm not a coach but it does seem interesting to me that the same group of players are still sent out continuously every time UW goes on the power play. I'm not sure I would classify Norby as a "sniper" either. She only has 4 goals on the season despite being awarded a ton of playing time including a spot on the second power play unit time after time. Also, Cogan has 6 goals, Roque has 3 goals, Shaver has 3 goals, McKibbon has 5 goals, and Clark has 5 goals on the season -- all these players are on the power play every game. One player that is never on the power play is Wellhausen. She is third on the team with 9 goals and leads the team with 3 game winning goals but for some reason doesn't get a chance. Not really sure why. She wins puck battles (despite her size), has terrific speed, and isn't afraid to go to the front of the net to score. We made the trip to Ohio State last weekend to watch the games and the goal #21 scored on Saturday was a SNIPE type of goal from the high slot. I know the Badger coaching staff is the best around, and I'm sure they have their reasons for putting certain players on the power play. It just seems strange to me that a teams third leading goal scorer isn't used at all, especially when the current players used aren't getting it done. Despite the power play woes however, this team is so much fun to watch! Looking forward to an amazing second half of the season! Merry Christmas!