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Wisconsin Badgers 2010-2011, The next generation.

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Weird game.

Poor officiating, imo.

Security's been stupid for years, so while I get the general dislike for them, I don't get the complaining about the bag rule specifically- what do you need for a few hours at the KC that you can't fit in a small purse?
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Die in a fire.

Per Mar is my sworn enemy. Back in my Crease Creature days, I had seats in 117. After a period against UMD, the Bulldogs were heading into the locker and I referred to one of them as "Goldilocks". During the intermission, a Per Mar "security" guard came by to give me a talkin' to about not taunting the other team. Absurd.

Oh, and UW's policies on signs and flags is absurdly stupid. I still don't understand how Phil never get's his "Let's", "Go" and "Red" signs taken away, since those are clearly at least the size of two 11" x 17" sheets put together. Not that I'm complaining- I love Phil like the rest of you- I just don't get the double standard.
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Last week I had an old CCM jersey in a Bucky's Locker Room bag for a friend who wanted it, the contents of the bag were far smaller than 8.5x11, but the bag wasn't so the ****** wouldn't let me in, but I could take the jersey out, throw the bag away and then it was ok. What was I going to do w/ the bag, put it over some dumb**** Green Gopher fan's head and suffocate him/her? Yeah yelling "Sioux" at the end of the National Anthem deserves a death sentence IMHO, but I wouldn't kill them w/ a plastic bag. On top of that, the guy didn't even ask to open my jacket because he was so obsessed about the stupid bag I was carrying. I could have carried in a nuclear bomb last saturday night and it would have been ok, but my plastic bag w/ a jersey in was too big.

As for the game last night, yes the goalies were weak, but the D for the Badgers did a lot of standing around on a few of those goals. Go hit someone, knock them off the puck, don't even let them have a chance to shoot.

I think Tyler Barnes showed up last night in a big way and hope that continues. For the recent bad stretch, there are some positives. Simonelli is starting to play better, and 1st Star, Mersch and Barnes are playing pretty **** well 13 games into the season for freshman.

The WCHA refs continue to suck, they set a higher standard for themselves each year, but continue to out do themselves by sucking even worse.
 
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solovsfett said:
thoughts on tonight's absolute circus of a game

UMD
great skaters
#14 or 24, flaherty, can pick em up and put em down, jc that kid looked fast
Dylan Olson...stud. great d-man. Hawks have a great pick there
goalies....tsuck
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14 is Flaherty. Most of the guys on the team can just fly.
 
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sunprairie said:
No joke. The UW/Kohl Center needs to seriously reconsider the asinine 8.5x11" bag rule. I have seen so many angry confrontations at the turnstiles for both mens and womens games about this rule. Women are being turned back to their cars with purses that no one in their right mind would consider obscenely large, simply because they are larger than the piece of paper that the Per Mar guy is holding.

For a sport that is not sold-out on a season basis, you'd think the UW would want people to think positively of their visit to the Kohl Center for a hockey game so that they might consider making a return trip. Being informed that your everyday purse is a terror danger and having to trudge it back to your car in the cold -- despite continual warnings from UW Police to not keep any valuables in your car due to break-ins -- is not the way to start off the evening on a positive note.

Simply requiring bags to be searched has always worked in the past and should be sufficient now.
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I know my purse is bigger than 8x11 and I have never had a problem getting in with it. They just look inside. No one has ever said anything about it's size.
 
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Is it just me or is Schultz looking worse by the week?

I though Gardiner was better last night than last weekend, but that may not be saying a lot.

With better goaltending though, we win. Seniors gotta be Seniors.

Big Badger win at the Big House today, Badger hoops at 6:00 at UNLV, Badger hockey at 7:00 and Hawks hockey at Vancouver at 9:00.

I could poop myself! :D
 
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well...2 weekends 2 sweeps.

not sure how this ship rights itself so eff it bring on the paint thinner;)
 
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solovsfett said:
well...2 weekends 2 sweeps.

not sure how this ship rights itself so eff it bring on the paint thinner;)
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I don't know, I don't see it that way at all.

What I saw was us lose two tight games to the #1 team in the country. We were competitive in each and could have won them both.

We all knew coming into this season that this was a young team and most of us thought it was a rebuilding year.

What I'm seeing is a lot of raw talent that is going to be very good by next year at the latest. I haven't even given up on this season yet as that kind of talent can sometimes make up for a lack of experience.

Now if I saw a team of role players or a team that clearly didn't care, I'd be right there with you. I see a team with all the parts, but many of the parts are just a little green right now.

Long way to go yet and I actually really like a lot of what I'm seeing at this very early point in the development of this team.
 
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The Hallucination said:
Security's been stupid for years, so while I get the general dislike for them, I don't get the complaining about the bag rule specifically- what do you need for a few hours at the KC that you can't fit in a small purse?
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Well, what about a diaper bag? Sorry kid, you have to sit there with a poopy diaper until the game's over, then have your parents change it in the car?

I didn't know Osorojo was in here or I would have joined this thread sooner.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
I don't know, I don't see it that way at all.

What I saw was us lose two tight games to the #1 team in the country. We were competitive in each and could have won them both.

We all knew coming into this season that this was a young team and most of us thought it was a rebuilding year.

What I'm seeing is a lot of raw talent that is going to be very good by next year at the latest. I haven't even given up on this season yet as that kind of talent can sometimes make up for a lack of experience.

Now if I saw a team of role players or a team that clearly didn't care, I'd be right there with you. I see a team with all the parts, but many of the parts are just a little green right now.

Long way to go yet and I actually really like a lot of what I'm seeing at this very early point in the development of this team.
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To me, you can tell that this team has all the pieces in terms of skill, and talent, and desire needed to be a good to very good team, but lack the crucial ingredient of experence to be that team right now. That is no more apparent to me then in the defensive zone: so many UW players out of position and oppoents left unguarded in the defensive zone. very unlike what we have become accustomed to at UW. I don't know how much to heap on the goalies for the goals, but they didn't make any highlight real saves that they couldn't be expected to.

The bigger thing is that this team MUST get better a little each and every week, and the first place they need to show it is in the defensive zone, particularly around the net. To many players being allowed to roam free in front of the UW net.

It seems that this team really feels the loss of the three D from last year, one of those 3 stay, and I think that has a HUGE impact on this team and how they play.
 
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Friday night the effort was uneven. UW looked pretty lazy out there in the first period until they scored, then they seemed to wake up. To start the 2nd period it was the same way. That was very frustrating (especially being there in person). They played great in the OT, UMD gets lucky on the non-call and scores. I was most upset about the first goal UW gave up. Zengerle threw the puck blindly up the boards, UMD has a guy right there, who Goody allows to score - 2 crap plays.

Saturday, they played a pretty solid game. UMD gets a lucky bounce in OT after some great pressure by UW and scores. Zengerle had a great chance in the 3rd period where he passed into the slot instead of shooting. Crandall's 5 hole was so wide open I could have scored on him.

UMD is the #1 team in the country, it wasn't like UW was hopelessly outclassed. UW really needed 1 lights out goaltending performace to get some points and they didn't get it.

5th place is still very attainable. The top 4 in the WCHA are pretty clear. The question is whether or not St. Cloud is going to wake up and get into a spot for home ice. After this weekend, the competition gets easier. A split this weekend is reasonable, then the next is should be a 6-2 run. I see a 13-9-2 record (6-6-2 WCHA) before the trip to UMD.
 
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Osorojo said:
I'm only jealous of the lavish $36,000+ Wisconsin spends for each hockey player. I might be jealous of UW's success if UW were rated higher in the polls.
Back to the topic. Are you certain that "we honestly don't care" when your best players, recruited at considerable time and expense, depart long before their eligibility expires? Does the "we" you mention in your devil-may-care attitude toward early departure refer to all Badger fans, coaches, alumni, and the UW administration? Mike Eaves was scheduled to meet with NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman 11/9 to discuss "player raids." Eaves is evidently not a "we."
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If a kid has a chance to leave for the NHL and wants to, thats their choice. Its tough for them to pass up the big paycheck, so more power to 'em. I wouldnt say that we dont care, but is not as if these kids are obligated to stay at school for 4 years.
We enjoy our players while they are here and we wish them the best and cheer for them when they reach the NHL.
As to your little wisecrack about being jealous about UW if they were higher in the polls, I will say this: 6 national championships. UW's success is the envy of almost every other mens' hockey program in the NCAA. Theres a lot of other quality programs out there who havent won any NCAA championships and we have 6, so yeah, we have much to be proud of.
 
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Timothy A said:
Friday night the effort was uneven. UW looked pretty lazy out there in the first period until they scored, then they seemed to wake up. To start the 2nd period it was the same way. That was very frustrating (especially being there in person). They played great in the OT, UMD gets lucky on the non-call and scores. I was most upset about the first goal UW gave up. Zengerle threw the puck blindly up the boards, UMD has a guy right there, who Goody allows to score - 2 crap plays.

Saturday, they played a pretty solid game. UMD gets a lucky bounce in OT after some great pressure by UW and scores. Zengerle had a great chance in the 3rd period where he passed into the slot instead of shooting. Crandall's 5 hole was so wide open I could have scored on him.

UMD is the #1 team in the country, it wasn't like UW was hopelessly outclassed. UW really needed 1 lights out goaltending performace to get some points and they didn't get it.

5th place is still very attainable. The top 4 in the WCHA are pretty clear. The question is whether or not St. Cloud is going to wake up and get into a spot for home ice. After this weekend, the competition gets easier. A split this weekend is reasonable, then the next is should be a 6-2 run. I see a 13-9-2 record (6-6-2 WCHA) before the trip to UMD.
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I agree- but would add they seem to stand around too much on the PP. Where Duluth was always moving. I am not sure if that is by design or not. Also the Badgers looked great 1st period, horrible 2nd, and better toward the end of the 3rd. Badgers had too many good chances of scoring but couldn't find a way to get the puck in the basket. The fact we played the #1 team in the nation and had a chance to win both games only tells me we are going to get better and like your 6-2 run idea.
 
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So, I propose that we do away with overtime entirely, and hold shootouts after 60 minutes.




Kidding! But really...
 
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Pretty good effort tonight, but as others have posted, you can really see the inexperience. These guys will get to know each other and things will happen. There's too much talent there for it NOT to happen.

I watched my DVR replay this morning; why the hell does PB have to bring up that OT losing record? That's like saying "I hope our goalie gets a shut-out" with 2 minutes left in the game. PB used to be great at, "Hey folks, put a $5 bill on top of your TVs and let's buy a goal!" Of course my tongue is firmly planted in my cheek, but maybe we should do that "$5 on the TV" thing......can't hurt!!
 
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WeWantMore said:
So, I propose that we do away with overtime entirely, and hold shootouts after 60 minutes.

Kidding! But really...
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I really didn't like the NHL way of giving a point for tying at the end of regulation, but over time I've really appreciated it more and more. It allows you to enjoy the outcome to some extent either way coz you can always say, "At least we got one point."

It's amazing how much difference that can make in what a fan takes away from the game. It rewards matching a team during regulation and makes that last minute goal to tie all the more worthwhile, even when you end up losing in OT.

I still don't care all that much for the shootout though to award an additional point in the standings and I wouldn't want to have that in College. Anyone remember the game a couple of years ago that went about 10 rounds before the first goal went in?
 
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MadCityRich said:
I watched my DVR replay this morning; why the hell does PB have to bring up that OT losing record? That's like saying "I hope our goalie gets a shut-out" with 2 minutes left in the game. PB used to be great at, "Hey folks, put a $5 bill on top of your TVs and let's buy a goal!" Of course my tongue is firmly planted in my cheek, but maybe we should do that "$5 on the TV" thing......can't hurt!!
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Friday night I would have thrown my wallet on the ice if it would have gaurenteed a goal in ot for UW. :) The ice cream wasn't so sweet with the loss either. :( I sat in the Culvers pouting slowly eating my ice cream while my wife and kids were merrily guzzling their's down. :mad: They just don't get it.
 
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In case you are feeling optimistic, lucky or both - the Resch Center is putting the Midwest Regional tickets on sale to the public on Dec. 3 at 11 am Central. (www.ticketstaronline.com). Of course, no guarantees UW will end up here, but FYI.
 
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