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Who's going to win it all?

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bantam75 said:
Right now, I would put Trin, Amherst and Williams up against any top 3 teams from any other conference on a neutral site and they would hold their own nicely and win some games. Not all, but some. They play different style then what you see out West and in SUNYAC. It might not impress you Remy, but it is effective. NESCAC played interlocking schedule with ECAC East for years (until last year) and held their own fine. Everyone expected the NESCAC to drop off when that arrangement ended in 2013, but now 2 teams in FF next week with wins over Norwich and Platty when it counted. Norwich fans are the classiest I have encountered over the years. Always gracious in defeat. Smash mouth never works when you are on the losing end of a 5-1 loss.
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Did anyone say they wouldn't "hold their own"? Absolutely they would. Amherst is and has always been a great match up with Plattsburgh (for example). Williams, while not the offensive power of a Trinity, has held their own (and then some) against Plattsburgh. And yes I know of the Williams blow out against Plattsburgh this year when a certain goalie went down and the other couldn't stop a beach ball that game. I think you're getting confused with people not praising Trin Trin and thinking some of us think they are a complete push-over, not the case. Some of us are not here to give you the Rah-Rah good job go team go speech. Getting terms like impressed, impressive, nice, decent goes farther for some of us. There have only been a handful of "super great" teams over the years. A lot of "nice" and "great" teams, but nothing like a "Kentucky" round ball team like this year. Too many other great teams out there. I can't believe I'm going to do this, but I agree (gulp) with what Fishman had to say...the difference in the teams 1-8 in the East is minimal at best. I'm not sure many teams would be well above .500 if they all played on a neutral site a couple dozen times. Some teams clamp down on a defensive style and wait for mistakes, some teams just run and gun with you, some teams are a mixture of both, some teams do better against certain styles.
 
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If I know way more than anybody around here, we're all in big trouble.

But yes, I've been told by AC that it's being streamed on NCAA.com
 
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bantam75 said:
No no. much more fun to get into the fray and poke and prod a little. Or in my case, a lot. Went skiing today at Okemo, had a shot of Jameson and some Long Trails afterwards and saw Remy's posts and decided why not.
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See, you'll do fine here. Keeps things interesting. Skip the Jameson tho....

bantam75 said:
I know that, which is the problem with the D3 final private rankings. totally opaque unlike the D1 rankings which are totally transparent. It is clear that the final private rankings are tweeked in ways that support the travel restrictions imposed by the schools and NCAA. We can argue the final rankings that came out until the cows come home, but ranking Amherst ahead of Norwich based on the season and conference tournaments was hard to understand. And that is just one issue I have with the final rankings. .
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Rankings really are not that hard to understand. Mostly all stuff you can look up yourself. Just as Webb said on the other site, people try reading too much into the criteria when its pretty simple. Was their some "tweaking" in regards to the travel? Maybe moving Hobart above/below Plattsburgh, that's about it. Amherst won the criteria over everyone else, like Nate said. Some people would like to eliminate teams that lose in your Conference quarterfinals because you weren't the even the best top 2 team in your conference. But if we're ranking on what teams did in the conference tournament I guess Trinity wouldn't even have been a thought a couple weeks ago. But guess what, this isn't DI.

PS...Williams already got sent home a couple weeks ago now....
 
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CARDS_rule_the_Burgh said:
I'm not here to argue with the validity of your other points, I just want to point this out... If you've been a die-hard fan of Trinity and DIII Hockey for 12 years, you obviously know that the Interlock ended after the 2010-2011 season - which is 4 years ago now - right?
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Too much Jameson obviously....
 
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Looking like an all West final again. My pick is Point. I feel their D corps will be the difference, deep and talented!
 
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I'm still trying to figure out whom to root against this weekend. There are no usual suspects to find dislike with.
 
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I am pulling for an all NESCAC final between Trinity and Amherst. Trinity has a very nice team. Amherst is nice, but not as nice as Trinity. The key to the Bantams winning is being afforded an opportunity to be outshot, out-chanced, and generally outplayed relying solely on lucky bounces and the right zodiac alignments to scrape out a win by a few goals. Amherst is secretly a group of cockroaches that can't be killed off.

C'mon guys.....let the NESCAC's their day in the sun. They are not regulars to the final four these days. Trinity and Amherst are nice teams alright led by highly skilled players with mean streaks a mile long. Their respective coaching staffs have done a tremendous job getting them to this point in the season. The Lord Jeffs are doing it with a back-up goal-tender who so sat around for 3+ years on the bench! I know it's hard to swallow with no SUNYAC team or a Norwich in the mix, but this too shall pass. Next year will be here soon enough. In the meantime, let's see if a couple of nice teams from the smart guy conference can pull off a national championship.
 
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Saints17 said:
I'm still trying to figure out whom to root against this weekend. There are no usual suspects to find dislike with.
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I've got to go with Adrian, who started off their climb against Potsdam, their effort and commitment to the sport - despite some incredible FNG treatment has earned them kudos in my book. But once they get their first Championship Banner - my Eastern, Homer Bias will prevail.

Also some legacy credit (and to appease my homer bias) for Adrian with former start up coach Ron Fogarty's, Potsdam roots.
 
norm1909 said:
I've got to go with Adrian, who started off their climb against Potsdam, their effort and commitment to the sport - despite some incredible FNG treatment has earned them kudos in my book. But once they get their first Championship Banner - my Eastern, Homer Bias will prevail.

Also some legacy credit (and to appease my homer bias) for Adrian with former start up coach Ron Fogarty's, Potsdam roots.
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That's Thomas S. Clarkson Memorial College of Technology (A Workman that Needeth Not to Be Ashamed), thank you.
 
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For all the eastern folks, I think you will be impressed by the skill and speed of Adrian and Point. The west is loaded with teams like this. St. Thomas, UWEC, Norbert and River as well as Hamline, Concordia and St. Marys. Lake Forest was also a great team this year. The west has progressed. Basically out West, there are no easy outs!
 
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westscout said:
For all the eastern folks, I think you will be impressed by the skill and speed of Adrian and Point. The west is loaded with teams like this. St. Thomas, UWEC, Norbert and River as well as Hamline, Concordia and St. Marys. Lake Forest was also a great team this year. The west has progressed. Basically out West, there are no easy outs!
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We've learned since 2011 that the West is clearly ahead of the East. Look at the national championships.

Any Eastern fan that thinks differently at this point is sadly misguided.
 
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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
We've learned since 2011 that the West is clearly ahead of the East. Look at the national championships.

Any Eastern fan that thinks differently at this point is sadly misguided.
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I wouldn't say clearly ahead, They've won 4 in a row(SNC winning 3 of those), but there haven't been any blowouts. For instance the recent Oswego-Adrian game could have gone either way, it was very close. Neither team downright dominated the other, both had stretches where they outplayed the other but overall it was an exciting edge of your seat game.

I know it will never happen, but I'd love to see the frozen four turn into a best of three series.
 
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OSU2010 said:
I wouldn't say clearly ahead, They've won 4 in a row(SNC winning 3 of those), but there haven't been any blowouts. For instance the recent Oswego-Adrian game could have gone either way, it was very close. Neither team downright dominated the other, both had stretches where they outplayed the other but overall it was an exciting edge of your seat game.

I know it will never happen, but I'd love to see the frozen four turn into a best of three series.
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I agree with you - clearly and significantly IMPROVED - IMO with Adrian fueling the western fire - but I think the east knows to prepare (think pre-1995).
 
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