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Who will be the 2013 National Champion?

Re: Who will be the 2013 National Champion?

Picking a winner is very tough but would say it's really good for college hockey that there are no traditional teams in the FF.
 
Re: Who will be the 2013 National Champion?

It would be really great if the Huskies pull this off. It's just to bad I won't be alive to see it...pretty sure my heart will give out around the 6 minute mark of the 2nd period during Thursday nights game.

So in summery Go SCSU, and I loved you all.
 
Re: Who will be the 2013 National Champion?

I feel UML is going to take it. Yes I am a Lowell fan but... I have been watching the games. QU barely squeaked by Canisius, and got a really "slow" union team.
But I can say the same for SCSU... it looked miami looked terribly slow (or you were just beating them to every play).
I see it as such ... UML 1 Yale 0 QU 2 SCSU 3
UML 3 SCSU 0
Hellebuyck has been so calm in net .... it scares me..... even as a fan lol
 
Re: Who will be the 2013 National Champion?

I feel UML is going to take it. Yes I am a Lowell fan but... I have been watching the games. QU barely squeaked by Canisius, and got a really "slow" union team.
But I can say the same for SCSU... it looked miami looked terribly slow (or you were just beating them to every play).
I see it as such ... UML 1 Yale 0 QU 2 SCSU 3
UML 3 SCSU 0
Hellebuyck has been so calm in net .... it scares me..... even as a fan lol
I'll be stunned if Lowell gets shutouts in both games. That's pretty bold.
 
Re: Who will be the 2013 National Champion?

As an ECAC fan I'd be very glad to see Yale or Q win it but I have to go with the best team out there right now and to me it is clearly UML. They are shutting down everyone they play. Yes Yale had a tough draw to get where they are but all that amounts to is one great weekend for them. Lowell has been playing great for about 3 months straight now and it can be argued that beating Wiconsin and UNH in Manchester was just as tough a task. I think the other semi is a coin toss. I'll take UML 3-1 over Q in the final in the battle of the two best defenses in hockey.
 
Re: Who will be the 2013 National Champion?

Good for college hockey, not the NC$$.
It could potentially be fantastic for the NC$$. I mean, not this year, but if their turns out to be REAL parity, with a wider variety of teams making the national tournament, and more importantly the Frozen 4 on a year in year out basis, the NCAA stands to see a LOT more money. Picking 3 of the standard 8 teams, and then throwing in one feel-good story isn't nearly as compelling, overall, as a tournament that is always interesting.
 
Re: Who will be the 2013 National Champion?

It could potentially be fantastic for the NC$$. I mean, not this year, but if their turns out to be REAL parity, with a wider variety of teams making the national tournament, and more importantly the Frozen 4 on a year in year out basis, the NCAA stands to see a LOT more money. Picking 3 of the standard 8 teams, and then throwing in one feel-good story isn't nearly as compelling, overall, as a tournament that is always interesting.
The NCAA earns the majority of its money from ticket sales, the bidding process, and some on the food concessions and licensed apparel sales. When's the last time this event wasn't sold out? The venues make the majority of their money from concessions and a little on the ticket sales. Pittsburgh wanted to see the big schools that travel well - the usual suspects. The city's organizers want people in the seats of the arena and at the shops and restaurants in town. That's how people make their money. SCSU is the biggest school there this year, by student population. If secondary market tickets are cheap, that's really bad news for the city. The NCAA doesn't much care.
 
Re: Who will be the 2013 National Champion?

The NCAA earns the majority of its money from ticket sales, the bidding process, and some on the food concessions and licensed apparel sales. When's the last time this event wasn't sold out? The venues make the majority of their money from concessions and a little on the ticket sales. Pittsburgh wanted to see the big schools that travel well - the usual suspects. The city's organizers want people in the seats of the arena and at the shops and restaurants in town. That's how people make their money. SCSU is the biggest school there this year, by student population. If secondary market tickets are cheap, that's really bad news for the city. The NCAA doesn't much care.

"If secondary market tickets are cheap, that's really bad news for the city. The NCAA doesn't much care."

I'm not sure about that. Secondary market ticket prices typically don't impact the city one way or the other: they're mostly sold on stubhub or the uscho.com board or the ncaa ticket exchange, etc., and the transaction money never sees the city, no matter the price. The secondary prices on the street don't have much impact on the city, either.

On the other hand, people who spend less for their tickets may be inclined to spend more at the actual event, this making the lower prices in the secondary market good for the city.

In any case, the secondary market prices have been falling all week. Semi-final tickets that were $90 on Sunday are listing for $73 now, on stubhub. I'm guessing they will go lower still, maybe much lower.
 
Re: Who will be the 2013 National Champion?

The NCAA earns the majority of its money from ticket sales, the bidding process, and some on the food concessions and licensed apparel sales. When's the last time this event wasn't sold out? The venues make the majority of their money from concessions and a little on the ticket sales. Pittsburgh wanted to see the big schools that travel well - the usual suspects. The city's organizers want people in the seats of the arena and at the shops and restaurants in town. That's how people make their money. SCSU is the biggest school there this year, by student population. If secondary market tickets are cheap, that's really bad news for the city. The NCAA doesn't much care.
Thank you for helping my point. Because there are only a few usual suspects, a Frozen 4 like this year's is bad for the host city. Which is bad for the NC$$. If more teams had a realistic shot, their fans might travel better. (What percentage of Quinnipiac alumni over the age of 30 do you reckon are aware that their school is in the Frozen 4?) And THAT would be good for host cities, and therefore for the NCAA.
 
Re: Who will be the 2013 National Champion?

"If secondary market tickets are cheap, that's really bad news for the city. The NCAA doesn't much care."

I'm not sure about that. Secondary market ticket prices typically don't impact the city one way or the other: they're mostly sold on stubhub or the uscho.com board or the ncaa ticket exchange, etc., and the transaction money never sees the city, no matter the price. The secondary prices on the street don't have much impact on the city, either.

On the other hand, people who spend less for their tickets may be inclined to spend more at the actual event, this making the lower prices in the secondary market good for the city.

In any case, the secondary market prices have been falling all week. Semi-final tickets that were $90 on Sunday are listing for $73 now, on stubhub. I'm guessing they will go lower still, maybe much lower.
If secondary market ticket prices are down, it's an indicator that fewer people will be in town, fewer butts in the seats. Thus it's bad news for the city that put money into bringing the tournament to town.
 
Re: Who will be the 2013 National Champion?

Thank you for helping my point. Because there are only a few usual suspects, a Frozen 4 like this year's is bad for the host city. Which is bad for the NC$$. If more teams had a realistic shot, their fans might travel better. (What percentage of Quinnipiac alumni over the age of 30 do you reckon are aware that their school is in the Frozen 4?) And THAT would be good for host cities, and therefore for the NCAA.
According to the Princeton Review, Quinnipiac has about 6,400 undergrad students annually. The percentage of which you speak is moot. The fan base simply isn't large enough compared to a BC, UND or U of MN, with their proven fan support going to the tournaments year in and year out to support their teams in the Frozen 4. The host cities want the big schools.
 
Re: Who will be the 2013 National Champion?

Last time:
An all D-II final: 1980 NMU vs. UND (UND 5-2)
A D-III team won: 1985 -- RPI
A D-III team played for the title: 1996 - Colorado College (lost to Michigan in OT)
A D-II team won: 2011 - Minnesota - Duluth (over Michigan)
A D-II team played for the title: 2012 - Ferris State (lost to BC)
There was not a D-I team in the finals: 1988 -- LSSU (II) vs. SLU (III) Lake State 4-3 (OT)
An ECAC team won the title: 1989 - Harvard (over Minnesota)
An FBS school was not in the final: 2005 - North Dakota vs. Denver
 
Re: Who will be the 2013 National Champion?

According to the Princeton Review, Quinnipiac has about 6,400 undergrad students annually. The percentage of which you speak is moot. The fan base simply isn't large enough compared to a BC, UND or U of MN, with their proven fan support going to the tournaments year in and year out to support their teams in the Frozen 4. The host cities want the big schools.
So you seriously are arguing that more teams being competitive is bad for the NCAA. Fascinating. Insane, but fascinating. There is no possible way that having a larger pool of competitive teams on a regular basis could be anything but great for attendance. Once, or once every twenty years, is bad. Always is great.
 
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