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Who has seen the Hobbit?

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The shield surfing and the Oliphant sequence are the only ones I can think of. The rest of the battles were brutal and mostly realistic.


Like the reviewer that I linked said, these movies go to comic-book/super hero lengths.
 
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We're incredibly lucky that The Lord of the Rings films turned out as well as they did.

This.

My worst fears for the first trilogy was that someone would do them like these Hobbit films. I didn't want Conan, I wanted (and got) Braveheart.


Even if I hadn't read the books, I'm doubtful that I'd like these movies due to the overuse of crazy action sequences - which I don't really like in any movies.

I'm not here to say that no one should like or enjoy these movies. Just my own opinions here.

And I'm not a purest like some are, but changes need to make some sense.
 
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Even if I hadn't read the books, I'm doubtful that I'd like these movies due to the overuse of crazy action sequences - which I don't really like in any movies.

Agreed. The worst parts of the first movie (and if what I've heard is true, the second movie) has nothing to do with it being an adapted work and everything to do with how over-the-top and silly the whole thing is. Like it was storyboarded by a 7 year old who just had some pixie stix.
 
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LOTR movies were awesome mostly just because I always thought it couldn't be done until it was. A few nitpicks could be made but mostly an awesome achievement. Now The Hobbit was a huge disappointment, because the remaining shreds of Tolkien's melancholy nostalgia of all things pastoral and medieval was completely disregarded for this grade school cartoon of buffoonery. VERY disappointing, I'm going to avoid part 2 until it's $1.99 on amazon because I can't stand to see what became of those woods spiders and the woods elf kingdom in this cartoon version. Although I have no doubt Smaug will be visually impressive.
 
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LOTR movies were awesome mostly just because I always thought it couldn't be done until it was. A few nitpicks could be made but mostly an awesome achievement. Now The Hobbit was a huge disappointment, because the remaining shreds of Tolkien's melancholy nostalgia of all things pastoral and medieval was completely disregarded for this grade school cartoon of buffoonery. VERY disappointing, I'm going to avoid part 2 until it's $1.99 on amazon because I can't stand to see what became of those woods spiders and the woods elf kingdom in this cartoon version. Although I have no doubt Smaug will be visually impressive.
Saw it. This is pretty spot on. Not sure why they bothered hiring Jackson to do these - I guess Michael Bay was unavailable. Bitterly disappointing. You don't have time for [X] and [Y] (really important plot points from the book), but you do have time to introduce a completely new character and make her spend 10 minutes on screen gazing wistfully (Twilight-style) at a dwarf? Bleah.
 
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Maybe, but you had almost an entire second movie of two Hobbits being carried around by a CGI tree. Also, Gollum, and pretty much half of the Moria chase, the Helms Deep battle, and the opening battle against Sauron were all CGI. Then there's all the backgrounds.
 
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Maybe, but you had almost an entire second movie of two Hobbits being carried around by a CGI tree. Also, Gollum, and pretty much half of the Moria chase, the Helms Deep battle, and the opening battle against Sauron were all CGI. Then there's all the backgrounds.

True I suppose.

The underlying problem is, Lord of the Rings was made a semi-serious film considering it's content. The Hobbit has not been given the same care. It's almost as if Peter Jackson took to heart the fact that The Hobbit was considered a children's story when it was written and The Lord of the Rings was certainly not written as a child's tale.

Still, all things considered no matter how bad folks think The Hobbit is, it still could have been much much worse.
 
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Compare the Moria scenes with the Goblin Town sequence, and that should tell you all you ever need to know about the difference in how CGI was used in each set of movies.
 
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Compare the Moria scenes with the Goblin Town sequence, and that should tell you all you ever need to know about the difference in how CGI was used in each set of movies.

Seems pretty much the same to me. Shots of the live actors interspersed with far shots of digital hobbits and men running through caves and down stairways, rock and wooden stairways collapsing and crumbling. CGI orcs and goblins falling to their deaths by the hundreds, etc.

Now, you could argue, and have a point, that the goblin chase was so unrealistic as to be comical. Our heroes falling hundreds of feet, with debris and collapsed structures crushing down on top of them, and none of them get so much as a scratch. And you just don't feel that they're in any peril whatsoever. Not like in Moria.

The underlying problem is, Lord of the Rings was made a semi-serious film considering it's content. The Hobbit has not been given the same care. It's almost as if Peter Jackson took to heart the fact that The Hobbit was considered a children's story when it was written and The Lord of the Rings was certainly not written as a child's tale.

I think it's the opposite. The Hobbit was a children's book, lighthearted and whimsical, with just enough scary bits to have the kiddies sleeping with the nightlight on. Jackson has taken this Hobbit and turned it into a LOTR prequel, with scary orcs chasing our company, goblins, the eminent presence of Sauron pervading everything, the ring being dangerous, and not just a parlor trick. It's much darker and less playful than it needs to be. In the extended version of An Unexpected Journey, you get a hint of that whimsy in the scenes of Bilbo wandering around Rivendell, in awe of its beauty and magnificence, wowed to be in the company of the Elven folk. Freeman does a great job portraying this without saying a word. That's where you come to see why Bilbo developed such an affection for the place, so much that he had to journey back to it in LOTR. But you don't get that in the theatrical version.

Would have been interesting to see what Guillermo del Toro had done with this if he'd stayed around to direct it.
 
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I guess when they announced that the Hobbit was going to be split into 3 movies, we knew it was all about the money. This movie confirms it.
 
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I guess when they announced that the Hobbit was going to be split into 3 movies, we knew it was all about the money. This movie confirms it.

Isn't that the truth! :)

I should check how many pages in the book are covered by the film, but the whole book is only about 300 pages long depending upon the edition.
 
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