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Who has seen the Hobbit?

Re: Who has seen the Hobbit?

Handyman said:
Even if you are right...do you not see the stupidity in calling the movie The Hobbit if in fact it isnt based on the book or about it? If this was any other story you would be ripping it to shreds over all this and you know it!
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Well, since it is in fact based upon The Hobbit, the name is correct.

In addition, marketing/advertising 101 would say that you must call it The Hobbit. Built in name recognition and brand awareness.
 
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From what I've heard as well, there's a lot of stuff in The Hobbit the book, that's just talked about by the characters, but Jackson is showing happen in the movie. The dwarves being run out of Eredor by Smaug, for instance, and Thorin's first battle with the pale orc.
 
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Re: Who has seen the Hobbit?

Right, I get that I was commenting about how Scooby said everything from the book "The Hobbit" would be over by movie 2. It would seem rather stupid to then have a third movie, called "The Hobbit part 3", if that was the truth. I know why they would do it I just think it is logically ridiculous.

Lets put it this way...lets say I wrote a book called "Handyman's Guide to ****ing Off Scooby and the Other Hobbit Nerds" and then someone decided to make it into a trilogy. It would seem rather stupid if everything from that book was over with after part two if there is another 3 hour movie coming up and they decided to add a bunch of stories from "Handyman's Guide to ****ing Off Fans of JJ Abrams" and "Handyman's Guide To annoying Marvel Fanboys". Sure I would do it in a heartbeat because it would make more money but that doesnt make it it any less ridiculous :) :D

Basically what I am saying is I just found what Scooby said to be stupid. I was not actually commenting on whether the Hobbit deserves a trilogy as I covered that months ago :)
 
Re: Who has seen the Hobbit?

Handyman said:
Right, I get that I was commenting about how Scooby said everything from the book "The Hobbit" would be over by movie 2. It would seem rather stupid to then have a third movie, called "The Hobbit part 3", if that was the truth. I know why they would do it I just think it is logically ridiculous.

Lets put it this way...lets say I wrote a book called "Handyman's Guide to ****ing Off Scooby and the Other Hobbit Nerds" and then someone decided to make it into a trilogy. It would seem rather stupid if everything from that book was over with after part two if there is another 3 hour movie coming up and they decided to add a bunch of stories from "Handyman's Guide to ****ing Off Fans of JJ Abrams" and "Handyman's Guide To annoying Marvel Fanboys". Sure I would do it in a heartbeat because it would make more money but that doesnt make it it any less ridiculous :) :D

Basically what I am saying is I just found what Scooby said to be stupid. I was not actually commenting on whether the Hobbit deserves a trilogy as I covered that months ago :)
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You'd have to do a lot more than what you've done to **** me off, but your analogy was hilarious. Thanks! :D
 
Re: Who has seen the Hobbit?

rufus said:
From what I've heard as well, there's a lot of stuff in The Hobbit the book, that's just talked about by the characters, but Jackson is showing happen in the movie. The dwarves being run out of Eredor by Smaug, for instance, and Thorin's first battle with the pale orc.
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Exactly. And the book is centered on Bilbo - as I recall everything happens in his presence. The meeting of the White Council did not happen in his presence but it did happen. I don't believe the details of the dwarves captured by the goblins are discussed at length because Bilbo was having his visit with Gollum at that time, but they did happen. I imagine the Battle of the Five Armies will occupy a great deal of the next movie, but it gets just a few pages in the book because our protagonist is knocked out.
 
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Priceless said:
Exactly. And the book is centered on Bilbo - as I recall everything happens in his presence. The meeting of the White Council did not happen in his presence but it did happen. I don't believe the details of the dwarves captured by the goblins are discussed at length because Bilbo was having his visit with Gollum at that time, but they did happen. I imagine the Battle of the Five Armies will occupy a great deal of the next movie, but it gets just a few pages in the book because our protagonist is knocked out.
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Exactly. A concept Handy must have missed. Just like he missed my point about the title of the film.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Exactly. A concept Handy must have missed. Just like he missed my point about the title of the film.
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If I recall correctly Handy is very literal about titles; doesn't he think How I Met Your Mother will end with the first meeting between Ted and the mother? Or am I thinking of someone else?
 
Re: Who has seen the Hobbit?

Priceless said:
Exactly. And the book is centered on Bilbo - as I recall everything happens in his presence. The meeting of the White Council did not happen in his presence but it did happen. I don't believe the details of the dwarves captured by the goblins are discussed at length because Bilbo was having his visit with Gollum at that time, but they did happen. I imagine the Battle of the Five Armies will occupy a great deal of the next movie, but it gets just a few pages in the book because our protagonist is knocked out.
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Being that I am just rereading the book for the first time in many years, I can agree with that. (I figured that I would reread it before watching it again, this time in 3D, which I may do on Friday.)
 
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jmh said:
If I recall correctly Handy is very literal about titles; doesn't he think How I Met Your Mother will end with the first meeting between Ted and the mother? Or am I thinking of someone else?
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I think that is correct.
 
Handyman said:
Right, I get that I was commenting about how Scooby said everything from the book "The Hobbit" would be over by movie 2. It would seem rather stupid to then have a third movie, called "The Hobbit part 3", if that was the truth. I know why they would do it I just think it is logically ridiculous.

Lets put it this way...lets say I wrote a book called "Handyman's Guide to ****ing Off Scooby and the Other Hobbit Nerds" and then someone decided to make it into a trilogy. It would seem rather stupid if everything from that book was over with after part two if there is another 3 hour movie coming up and they decided to add a bunch of stories from "Handyman's Guide to ****ing Off Fans of JJ Abrams" and "Handyman's Guide To annoying Marvel Fanboys". Sure I would do it in a heartbeat because it would make more money but that doesnt make it it any less ridiculous :) :D

Basically what I am saying is I just found what Scooby said to be stupid. I was not actually commenting on whether the Hobbit deserves a trilogy as I covered that months ago :)
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I would buy all of these books.
 
Re: Who has seen the Hobbit?

jmh said:
If I recall correctly Handy is very literal about titles; doesn't he think How I Met Your Mother will end with the first meeting between Ted and the mother? Or am I thinking of someone else?
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Yeah that is one of my favorite arguments to have...some people get kinda upset about it. :D

Best argument ever though...find some hardcore nerds and say "Superman could totally beat Batman" and watch the sparks fly. They make Scooby's pouting about me mocking The Hobbit III: Nerd Money Is The Easiest Kind To Steal look like a peace summit ;)
 
Re: Who has seen the Hobbit?

Handyman said:
Yeah that is one of my favorite arguments to have...some people get kinda upset about it. :D

Best argument ever though...find some hardcore nerds and say "Superman could totally beat Batman" and watch the sparks fly. They make Scooby's pouting about me mocking The Hobbit III: Nerd Money Is The Easiest Kind To Steal look like a peace summit ;)
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I like to pout. Sue me.
 
Re: Who has seen the Hobbit?

I just returned from seeing it for the second time, this time the 3D HFR version. The 3D made a difference. The HFR part I did not notice. I enjoyed it much more than I did the first time, and I think it had little to do with it being 3D and probably nothing to do with the HFR. It helped that I had reread the book for the first time in many years, and understood some things that confused me the first time.

Granted that this was a weekday matinee, and they were showing it again starting 30 minutes later, but there were maybe 15 people in the audience. I wonder if this movie will be around as long as the three LotR films.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
I just returned from seeing it for the second time, this time the 3D HFR version. The 3D made a difference. The HFR part I did not notice. I enjoyed it much more than I did the first time, and I think it had little to do with it being 3D and probably nothing to do with the HFR. It helped that I had reread the book for the first time in many years, and understood some things that confused me the first time.

Granted that this was a weekday matinee, and they were showing it again starting 30 minutes later, but there were maybe 15 people in the audience. I wonder if this movie will be around as long as the three LotR films.
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LOTR3: Return of the King was #1 for four weekends and still in over 1000 theaters at the end of March. I don't think The Hobbit will have that kind of staying power, especially with the films set to come out today and Christmas Day. Then you add in the major releases in January and February and it will be tough sledding even if you have a team of Rhosgobel rabbits pulling it.
 
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So I saw the movie, and was disappointed. I haven't read the book in several years, but I had hoped the movie would follow the book a lot closer. The movie seemed like 2 1/2 hours of the dwarves fighting orcs, and didn't move as far along as I expected. Like LOTR, it was well-produced, but as some posters have said, it looks like it's all about the money. Two movies could have covered it nicely.
 
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