What team ends the Minnesota winning streak?

[pgb-ohio]

Re: What team ends the Minnesota winning streak?

The Gophers enter the season with a 49-game winning streak, but we all know that will be broken at some point. Which opponent stops their run? If you'd like to win this prediction outright, the first tiebreaker is the date of the game, second tiebreaker is margin (0, 1, 2, etc.), and third tiebreaker is final score. Exhibitions don't count.

Oh, who are we kidding. The Gophers will never lose another game.

But if the miracle does come through, I'd like to be there to see it. So let's go with:

Ohio State
Saturday, December 7th
1 Goal Margin
Game Score= 2-1
GWG by Taylor Kuehl @ 2:17 of the O.T.

 

[ARM]

Re: What team ends the Minnesota winning streak?

But if the miracle does come through, I'd like to be there to see it. So let's go with:

Ohio State
Saturday, December 7th
1 Goal Margin
Game Score= 2-1
GWG by Taylor Kuehl @ 2:17 of the O.T.

I think that the only miracle there would be Minnesota arriving in Columbus with an 18-0-0 record in the first place.

 

[OnMAA]

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Anything I can do to promote your agenda.

Show me detailed schedules and results. Maybe then I'll entertain a theory of comparability in winning / undefeated streak achievement. If that's the objective.

Had already done that. Go back to check my post. In it is a link to the UNH media guide. Includes the complete history with results of all those games.

As ARM already so eloquently stated, the current current streak is a good way to not only recognized the accomplishments of today's Gopher squad, but also of excellent squads from days past, like the domineering era of the late 2000's Wisco teams and the power house UNH teams from the late 70's. Win-Win in my book.

My agenda is simple. Fan of the game in general, and enjoy watching my daughters play. Appreciate the caliber of play of the top squads. Also a long time volunteer on the admin side of the game in our district.

 

[pokechecker]

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Vaguely recall a discussion on this board about the all time record of UNH. If memory serves me correctly that number is a 56 game winning streak. Minnesota needs 7 more wins to equal and 8 to win it. I believe UNH's undefeated streak was longer, but don't recall the exact number.

if you are going to consider NH as having the record at 56 then you have to include last nights win over Japan and I also believe they played 2 exhibition games last year that they won so the current Gopher streak is at 52.

 

[brookyone]

Re: What team ends the Minnesota winning streak?

if you are going to consider NH as having the record at 56 then you have to include last nights win over Japan and I also believe they played 2 exhibition games last year that they won so the current Gopher streak is at 52.

Eloquently stated.

 

[ARM]

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It is still the record, and there is no asterisks beside it ...

It would be interesting to know how many of those wins in the UNH streak are over varsity programs. For example, the Wildcats winning streak shows three wins over Minnesota -- a club team. Also, included are Boston U, Vermont, and Connecticut none of whom have varsity programs dating back that far. Boston State -- is that U Mass Boston? There likely wasn't a huge difference between D-I and D-III back then (although the Potsdam State and Cortland State type teams didn't fare too well), but club teams would still have been at a big disadvantage.

 

[pokechecker]

Re: What team ends the Minnesota winning streak?

It would be interesting to know how many of those wins in the UNH streak are over varsity programs. For example, the Wildcats winning streak shows three wins over Minnesota -- a club team. Also, included are Boston U, Vermont, and Connecticut none of whom have varsity programs dating back that far. Boston State -- is that U Mass Boston? There likely wasn't a huge difference between D-I and D-III back then (although the Potsdam State and Cortland State type teams didn't fare too well), but club teams would still have been at a big disadvantage.

... so I think we can also add the intra-squad games to the MN streak

they have a intra-squad tournament where they divide up the team, including coaches, and play each other.
those games should be added to the streak too 'cuz Frosts team won last year
I think it was 3 games, so the streak is at 55

 

[OnMAA]

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It would be interesting to know how many of those wins in the UNH streak are over varsity programs. For example, the Wildcats winning streak shows three wins over Minnesota -- a club team. Also, included are Boston U, Vermont, and Connecticut none of whom have varsity programs dating back that far. Boston State -- is that U Mass Boston? There likely wasn't a huge difference between D-I and D-III back then (although the Potsdam State and Cortland State type teams didn't fare too well), but club teams would still have been at a big disadvantage.

Landscape was indeed different back then, a Colby, a D3 school had a powerhouse program for a while in the 70's. There was no real separation of D1 and D3 until much later. In the three decades preceding the NCAA day's there have been several power house teams over the years. Colby and UNH in the 70's. Teams like North Eastern, Brown and Harvard had storied seasons in the 90's.

I'll be the first to admit that it was much easier to string a long streak together in early days of the sport. However, the concept of early day dominance applies to many facets in all sports, and in many sports records of old, that will never be broken are still recognized to this day.

Hard to believe, but this year is a big milestone of sorts, as Brown, the first ever program in the US with a collegiate squad is celebrating it's 50th year of women's hockey. In the early days they used to play club teams and go up to play the likes of McGill in tournaments in Canada. Many Canadian varsity programs are eons older than their US counterparts. McGill and Queens had teams back in the 1920's. There are some great pictures in the hall way of the McConnell arena in Montreal depicting the history of McGill.

 

[OnMAA]

Re: What team ends the Minnesota winning streak?

if you are going to consider NH as having the record at 56 then you have to include last nights win over Japan and I also believe they played 2 exhibition games last year that they won so the current Gopher streak is at 52.

Now you are stretching it........

... so I think we can also add the intra-squad games to the MN streak

they have a intra-squad tournament where they divide up the team, including coaches, and play each other.
those games should be added to the streak too 'cuz Frosts team won last year
I think it was 3 games, so the streak is at 55

Stretching turning into desperation to make the numbers look good.

 

[Eeyore]

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Now you are stretching it........

Do exhibitions against non-varsity teams count or not?

 

[OnMAA]

Re: What team ends the Minnesota winning streak?

Do exhibitions against non-varsity teams count or not?

Pretty sure they don't and shouldn't as they are not recorded in the NCAA stats columns. Not sure if games vs Canadian CIS teams get counted in that regard. Suspect not as I've seen some of those games not listed for certain teams in the past.

 

[ARM]

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Pretty sure they don't and shouldn't as they are not recorded in the NCAA stats columns. Not sure if games vs Canadian CIS teams get counted in that regard. Suspect not as I've seen some of those games not listed for certain teams in the past.

They don't count, and that's the point. You are counting games against all sorts of teams in the UNH streak. That's fine, those are the teams they had available to play. But it then becomes nonsensical to say that the Minnesota streak is somehow less than that posted by the Wildcats. They are two different eras, and two entirely different sets of opponents. So I look at the Minnesota streak as being more than twice the previous record set in the NCAA era by Harvard at 21. I think that speaks for itself, just as UNH putting together an unbeaten streak that spanned four seasons is a great accomplishment. One can't say that the UNH streak is better because it contains more wins, because not all wins are equal. I'm not saying the UNH streak is lesser, only that from a scientific or mathematical approach, the totals were derived under two differing sets of rules.

 

[knight7]

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If the Yale men could take down the Goph's why not the Yale Women. I know it a long shot but it was long shot last Spring they said. LOL

 

[OnMAA]

Re: What team ends the Minnesota winning streak?

One can't say that the UNH streak is better because it contains more wins

I never said the UNH streak was better. I said it was longer, and that is a fact.!

Do agree it was a different ERA, and numbers from different ERA's are always hard to compare. The UNH streak is still the longer of the two. The quality of play is leaps and bounds better today as back then as well so how do you measure that. point is that both streaks are great accomplishments in their own right and representative of a team dominant in their era. The UNH record is the offical one for that ERA, the Minny record the official one for the NCAA era.

 

[ARM]

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I said it was longer, and that is a fact.

Yes, by a couple of years. My point is that you can't say it is longer by games, because they are not the same unit of measure as one includes what would be called exhibitions today and would be ignored.

 

[Eeyore]

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The UNH streak is still the longer of the two.

Not if you don't count games against non-varsity teams which is why I asked the question. You aren't just comparing different eras; you're insisting on different rules for what games count.

 

[sfo19]

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If the Yale men could take down the Goph's why not the Yale Women. I know it a long shot but it was long shot last Spring they said. LOL

"They" were dumb if they thought that, whoever "they" are.

 

[OnMAA]

Re: What team ends the Minnesota winning streak?

Not if you don't count games against non-varsity teams which is why I asked the question. You aren't just comparing different eras; you're insisting on different rules for what games count.

Different ERA, Different rules. back then there was no Olympics either. I never insisted on different rules. Just tallied the games as listed in the UNH record books. They are not listed as Exhibition games.

 

[The Boomer]

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I hope to get there next week for one of your games with the "Q". What are my chances of seeing The Boomer?

We will be at the Friday night game for sure. Will have to see if a "golf experience" is being planned for Saturday! Hope the Q women have the same Yellowjacket/Bumblebee colored uni's that the men had.

 

[pgb-ohio]

Re: What team ends the Minnesota winning streak?

I think that the only miracle there would be Minnesota arriving in Columbus with an 18-0-0 record in the first place.

That would also be something less than a miracle, IMHO. On paper, the two greatest threats to the streak are UW & UND. Both of those series are at Ridder. Sweeps by the U of M wouldn't shock me at all.

Leaving all lightheartedness aside, I'd agree that the Gophers' chances of going into the OSU series undefeated are less than 50%. But if you're saying it's all but impossible, I disagree.