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West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

For any and all interested, USCHO posters tailgating at the lot behind DQ before the game. I believe DQ is on 7th? but don't quote me, I just know its real close to the X.

I am hoping to get everybody there, fans from all four, but I have a feeling it'll mostly end up being an SCSU gathering.

I dunno, I'm thinking like... 1ish?

P.S. You can just park in the lot, it was $10 for F5, which is what every other lot was charging, and I'm assuming it'll be the same this weekend.
 
Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

Tim Rosenthal and Kevin Edelson preview the West Regional for Inside Hockey:

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Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

Tim Rosenthal and Kevin Edelson preview the West Regional for Inside Hockey:

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Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

Tim Rosenthal and Kevin Edelson preview the West Regional for Inside Hockey:

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Tim Rosenthal (aka Rosie) and Kevin Edelson share their picks for the Frozen Four for Inside Hockey. We will have to have a talk with Rosie if his signature on his bracket ever hits ebay:

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Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

Tim Rosenthal (aka Rosie) and Kevin Edelson share their picks for the Frozen Four for Inside Hockey. We will have to have a talk with Rosie if his signature on his bracket ever hits ebay:

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Don't let facts get in the way of your analysis boys. I love the bias against the west. :rolleyes: I love all the talk about how Wisconsin doesn't have the firepower as well. Check your facts boys, we're #1 in goals scored this season and #2 in goals per game. We've got a 4 players over the 40 point mark, 1 over the 50 point mark, and 4 more over 20. But yeah...keep thinking we have no fire power.
 
Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

You know I have read this post about six (6) times and even giving it the most liberal interpretation it is still wholly incoherent. Here's a suggestion, try posting something cogent. You know, something that makes actual sense.

...or are you just the sad product of an underachieving public school district?

Listen, mope, buy a clue. If you wish to discern my allegiance just read the quote at the end of my post. Hello! McFly!

Ok I will dumb it down for you.

A.) UML fans for 10 months have talked trash about how good their team was going to be this year with 100 seniors on the roster.

B.) Much of this trash talk has been with regards to UVM and how UML should just be handed the HE championship while UVM may as well not even take the ice.

C.) Still with me? Good... UML was bounced from the HE tourney in the first round.

D.) UML did not make the NCAA Tourney.

E.) Your rant about UVM not be worthy of playing for the NC, sounds to me to be a UML fan who created an alias to bash UVM, since they are ****ed off that UVM got in and UML didn't. Couple that with the lack of posts, means your account was just created, say right at the end of the year about the time teams were selected. Thus, the creation of an alias.

Did you get that??

I realize your tag line would indicate that you do not go to UML, but then again it would also indicate that you can read, so I have to go with the conclusion that it is fabricated as well. I mean I could create a signature that said I went to Harvard for my BS, Yale for my MS and then Dartmouth for my PhD......doesn't mean it's true.

Still with me or have I lost you?????

Your argument regarding in conference record being a reason for VT not to be in the tourney is reactionary at best. League games are factored into RPI which is not only a PWC, but also the tie breaker making it more heavily factored then the other comparisons. The fact that UVM finished 8th bears little relevance. Hypothetically a league could for example have the top 10 teams in the country and are all basically even, everyone plays essentially .500 hockey because the conference just is that good overall, and the first place team ends up 2 points ( that would be one win ) over the 10th place team. Even though these are the 10 best teams in the country, by your logic only the top 4-5 should make the tourney leaving out 5-6 of the best teams in the country simply because they weren't in the top of the league standings???

See, this is the National tourney, ergo records against all teams are what matters. There is already a tournament that is based on league records......its the league tournament.

So listen mope, get a clue. What you fail to realize is that the process really doesn't matter. Every single coach knows the criteria and they play to that criteria. Some play the game better then others.

And as for bias against certain conferences.....well that's retarded. How can a purely objective process favor anyone? If all the teams in the AHA played good competition, won games and as a result PWC then they would all make the tourney. Its not freaking rocket science......
 
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Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

Don't shoot the messenger, this one is courtesy of a commenter on the No Alibis blog and I can't help but repeat it:

M! I! S! S! I! N! G!
MISSING!
MISSING!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOPHERS!

-To be "sung" during this weekend's west regionals towards a certain regional host not in the tourney...
 
Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

Wow.

I know we all like to bash INCH, and I usually stay out of it, but this one was just too blatant:

http://insidecollegehockey.com/inch/2010/03/26/inch-west/

Inside College Hockey West Regional Preview said:
ONE TO WATCH

The last time we saw St. Cloud State’s Garrett Roe in uniform, he was being carted of the Xcel Center ice on a stretcher after Wisconsin defenseman Cody Goloubef whacked him in the Huskies’ 2-0 win over the Badgers last week in the WCHA Final Five semis. Roe, SCSU’s scoring co-leader with 46 points in 39 games, is expected to be in the lineup for the Huskies’ game against Northern Michigan Friday, but his status bears monitoring.

Roe was trying to make a play w/o his stick, and slid head first into the boards in front of Goloubef. To write it this way is close to libel.
 
Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

Wow.

I know we all like to bash INCH, and I usually stay out of it, but this one was just too blatant:

http://insidecollegehockey.com/inch/2010/03/26/inch-west/



Roe was trying to make a play w/o his stick, and slid head first into the boards in front of Goloubef. To write it this way is close to libel.

Not that it matters, but wasn't it Smith?

Anyway, I agree. Roe was diving headfirst into the boards to try to clear the puck, since two guys didn't have sticks, and Smith was coming in to play the puck. Every media mention I've seen of it says Roe had a collison with the boards, so it seems odd INCH feels "Goloubef whacked him".

From the SC Times -
"It was just a desperate play and an injury happened," Roe said. "(Smith) didn't do anything. And they had to take precautions. That's why they brought out the stretcher. It felt like my head was 100 pounds and like I couldn't move. I'm thankful in the long run that it wasn't too serious. As it was, it was the most pain I've ever been in."


edit: I should add that generally I like INCH - but that one was just way off.
 
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Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

Yeah, your right, it was Smith.

They must have gotten confused because Goloubef got the 5-minute major for contact to the head on Oslund. Great writing.
 
Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

Yeah, your right, it was Smith.

They must have gotten confused because Goloubef got the 5-minute major for contact to the head on Oslund. Great writing.

I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and say they just got them confused, rather than they thought the play where Roe got injured was even slightly dirty.
 
Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

Wow.

I know we all like to bash INCH, and I usually stay out of it, but this one was just too blatant:

http://insidecollegehockey.com/inch/2010/03/26/inch-west/



Roe was trying to make a play w/o his stick, and slid head first into the boards in front of Goloubef. To write it this way is close to libel.

Wow. :eek:

That's some pretty bad fact checking. #1 It was Smith, not Goloubef, and #2 Roe made a diving play to clear the puck without his stick. There was NOTHING Smith did wrong. #3 Goloubef's contact to the head wasn't that bad as he didn't injure whoever he hit and he rightfully got a 1 game suspension for it. Those boys over at INCH need to go back and issue an apology, that's uncalled for and I'd be saying the same thing if they said anything so blatantly inaccurate about any player... Yeah, even SCSU's Marvin, though we all know he's a goon :D .
 
Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

Wow. :eek:

That's some pretty bad fact checking. #1 It was Smith, not Goloubef, and #2 Roe made a diving play to clear the puck without his stick. There was NOTHING Smith did wrong. #3 Goloubef's contact to the head wasn't that bad as he didn't injure whoever he hit and he rightfully got a 1 game suspension for it. Those boys over at INCH need to go back and issue an apology, that's uncalled for and I'd be saying the same thing if they said anything so blatantly inaccurate about any player... Yeah, even SCSU's Marvin, though we all know he's a goon :D .

If anything, Roe was going for Smith's knees. Fricken' cheap sled doggies.

:p

All of the games were on TV. Would it be too much for people who have the nerve to call themselves INCH to watch all of them? I watched the HE, CCHA and ECAC tourneys and I don't even have a blog(or a life apparently). :eek:

Amateurs.
 
Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

Wow. :eek:

That's some pretty bad fact checking. #1 It was Smith, not Goloubef, and #2 Roe made a diving play to clear the puck without his stick. There was NOTHING Smith did wrong. #3 Goloubef's contact to the head wasn't that bad as he didn't injure whoever he hit and he rightfully got a 1 game suspension for it. Those boys over at INCH need to go back and issue an apology, that's uncalled for and I'd be saying the same thing if they said anything so blatantly inaccurate about any player... Yeah, even SCSU's Marvin, though we all know he's a goon :D .

not that bad he jumped in to the hit, he could have landed a perfect open ice hit otherwise but he aimed for the head.
 
Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

FYI - INCH <a href="http://insidecollegehockey.com/inch/2010/03/26/inch-west/">fixed their line about Roe.</a>.

ONE TO WATCH

The last time we saw St. Cloud State’s Garrett Roe in uniform, he was being carted of the Xcel Center ice on a stretcher after he was hurt in the Huskies’ 2-0 win over Wisconsin last week in the WCHA Final Five semis. Roe, SCSU’s scoring co-leader with 46 points in 39 games, is expected to be in the lineup for the Huskies’ game against Northern Michigan Friday, but his status bears monitoring
 
Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

Don't shoot the messenger, this one is courtesy of a commenter on the No Alibis blog and I can't help but repeat it:

M! I! S! S! I! N! G!
MISSING!
MISSING!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOPHERS!

-To be "sung" during this weekend's west regionals towards a certain regional host not in the tourney...

That's too ghay to be bothered.
 
Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

First, we take care of business tonight. Then, tomorrow we settle the score on Goloubef, and put his head on a pike and avenge Roe!
 
Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

Ok I will dumb it down for you.

A.) UML fans for 10 months have talked trash about how good their team was going to be this year with 100 seniors on the roster.

B.) Much of this trash talk has been with regards to UVM and how UML should just be handed the HE championship while UVM may as well not even take the ice.

C.) Still with me? Good... UML was bounced from the HE tourney in the first round.

D.) UML did not make the NCAA Tourney.

E.) Your rant about UVM not be worthy of playing for the NC, sounds to me to be a UML fan who created an alias to bash UVM, since they are ****ed off that UVM got in and UML didn't. Couple that with the lack of posts, means your account was just created, say right at the end of the year about the time teams were selected. Thus, the creation of an alias.

Did you get that??

I realize your tag line would indicate that you do not go to UML, but then again it would also indicate that you can read, so I have to go with the conclusion that it is fabricated as well. I mean I could create a signature that said I went to Harvard for my BS, Yale for my MS and then Dartmouth for my PhD......doesn't mean it's true.

Still with me or have I lost you?????

Your argument regarding in conference record being a reason for VT not to be in the tourney is reactionary at best. League games are factored into RPI which is not only a PWC, but also the tie breaker making it more heavily factored then the other comparisons. The fact that UVM finished 8th bears little relevance. Hypothetically a league could for example have the top 10 teams in the country and are all basically even, everyone plays essentially .500 hockey because the conference just is that good overall, and the first place team ends up 2 points ( that would be one win ) over the 10th place team. Even though these are the 10 best teams in the country, by your logic only the top 4-5 should make the tourney leaving out 5-6 of the best teams in the country simply because they weren't in the top of the league standings???

See, this is the National tourney, ergo records against all teams are what matters. There is already a tournament that is based on league records......its the league tournament.

So listen mope, get a clue. What you fail to realize is that the process really doesn't matter. Every single coach knows the criteria and they play to that criteria. Some play the game better then others.

And as for bias against certain conferences.....well that's retarded. How can a purely objective process favor anyone? If all the teams in the AHA played good competition, won games and as a result PWC then they would all make the tourney. Its not freaking rocket science......

First and foremost you needn't dumb anything down for me or anyone else. You accomplished that feat with your first incoherent post bottom feeder.

As for your lil' anti-UMass-Lowell rant by all means continue on with your slagging of the Riverhawks as if I actually give a rat's a** about that outfit. The subject was Vermont's blatant unworthiness so why not grab your Ritalin and focus on the subject at hand.

As for the issue at hand my objection to Vermont's inclusion in the NCAA tournament is anything but reactionary and their overall record (if you were actually able to comprehend what I posted) was but one factor in my argument. Try taking a look at the totality of Vermont's season instead of continuing to drink from the font of infected Kool-Aid you so willingly and naively consume at the NCAA's behest and you might actually come to the only appropriate conclusion that the use Pair Wise Rankings is a wholly flawed method of choosing tourney invitees.

...and as for my claim of bias I would think that even the most marginal of public school attendees (like yourself) could easily see the inequities in the awarding of tourney bids. If memory serves, lil Bemidji State dope slapped both Notre Dame and my beloved Cornell in last year's tourney and Air Force humbled the mighty Wolverines of Michigan. Every year some team from the CHA or AHA makes some noise in the tourney be it Niagra, Holy Cross, Air Force, or whomever, against one of the so-called elite programs and every year thereafter the NCAA continues to discriminate against these conferences. The whole Pair Wise Rankings system is based on arbitrary designations of stong teams and weak teams with teams from the AHA and CHA being designated as the "weak sisters" of Division I. Who says the AHA and CHA are weaker conferences? A mope like you? Please. Why not ask Notre Dame, Cornell, Maine, Michigan, and all the other so-called elite programs who have been felled by AHA and CHA teams over the past year or so if these teams are weak. Seriously, buy a clue.

The only fair and equitable way to award bids is to do it this way: Award sixteen (16) bids. Five (5) bids to the conference champions of each of the now remaining five conferences. Ten (10) bids to the two (2) top finishers in each conference (excluding the conference champion if they happen to finish in the top two), and one at-large bid to be granted to the best remaining team. This at-large bid could be granted to any team especially a team like Alabama-Huntsville that will be playing as an independent next season.

Lastly, if I were inclined to puffery (Google this word mope) I would claim Harvard, Yale, and Dartmouth pedigree. Since I am not so inclined I will advise that I most assuredly attended the "blue collar" Ivy school, the "working man's" Ivy school, the "military-friendly" Ivy school, and the best **** school in the whole Ivy League - CORNELL! ...and if you don't believe me I will send you a picture of my chest scars for each time my alma mater has ripped out my heart.
 
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Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

Lastly, if I were inclined to puffery (Google this word mope) I would claim Harvard, Yale, and Dartmouth pedigree. Since I am not so inclined I will advise that I most assuredly attended the "blue collar" Ivy school, the "working man's" Ivy school, the "military-friendly" Ivy school, and the best **** school in the whole Ivy League - CORNELL! ...and if you don't believe me I will send you a picture of my chest scars for each time my alma mater has ripped out my heart.

I believe that Cornhole is playing in a different regional and that there is a specific thread for it. Vermont's in. End of story.
 
Re: West Regional: #1 Wisconsin vs. #4 Vermont, #2 St. Cloud vs. #3 Northern Michigan

I believe that Cornhole is playing in a different regional and that there is a specific thread for it. Vermont's in. End of story.

Think BB is Andy from The Office? Would be really funny to hear this guy if Vermont beats Wisconsin (not for you guys of course.)
 
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