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Weighing Realignment?
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Terrier520
Sungo
Re: Weighing Realignment?
Air Force wouldn't break with Army. That's why they're in Atlantic to start with.
Air Force wouldn't break with Army. That's why they're in Atlantic to start with.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Weighing Realignment?
You can then kiss autobids, except for B1G and any conference that has 6 or more members of a current conference, goodbye. And FWIW, the WCHA is presently under a grace period for an already existing conference.
You can then kiss autobids, except for B1G and any conference that has 6 or more members of a current conference, goodbye. And FWIW, the WCHA is presently under a grace period for an already existing conference.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Weighing Realignment?
I thought they went to AHA because they suspected CHA was ready to fold?
I thought they went to AHA because they suspected CHA was ready to fold?
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Yeah Denver isn't playing in a conference with the Alaska schools, part of the NCHC was to get rid of us...
Re: Weighing Realignment?
The NCHC would probably love to have ND but does that solve the ND geography problem? Seems like only a very marginal improvement if any. Looking at Mapquest and just sayin' .... And there are no Catholic schools in the NCHC.
But that brings up another point. If ND did leave, as a Catholic school, HC might indeed get a lot of support. In the end, though, I think QU would win out. It would be very interesting, however.
Btw, the Hartford/Springfield/New Haven TV market is the biggest in North America without a professional franchise and bigger than some markets that have a franchise. In addition, every time UConn plays at MSG (including against Rutgers), Huskies fans dominate the building.
The NCHC would probably love to have ND but does that solve the ND geography problem? Seems like only a very marginal improvement if any. Looking at Mapquest and just sayin' .... And there are no Catholic schools in the NCHC.
But that brings up another point. If ND did leave, as a Catholic school, HC might indeed get a lot of support. In the end, though, I think QU would win out. It would be very interesting, however.
Btw, the Hartford/Springfield/New Haven TV market is the biggest in North America without a professional franchise and bigger than some markets that have a franchise. In addition, every time UConn plays at MSG (including against Rutgers), Huskies fans dominate the building.
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MavHockey14
New member
Keep in mind though, the B1G is about to sign a future TV contract that is just absurd, and you can't get the Pac-12 network on many providers. This far, the Pac-12 network has been quite a dud.
MavHockey14
New member
Simply defending the fact that neither the NCHC nor WCHA are inferior. Western teams account for just 1 of the last 6 titles. Tons to woof about there.
manurespreader
Still upright
Re: Weighing Realignment?
I'm not a media guy but this is how I see this kind of story getting started.
Some student at a student newspaper writes an article. Might be somewhat accurate. It gets picked up by a poster who posts a link to it. makes a comment. Someone speculates what the words mean. (In this case, I'm sure that ND is unhappy with the refereeing. And not so much the travel, but I'm sure they do not feel fairly treated by the refs. rightly or wrongly.)
Then someone tweets it, and it get's a life on social media. USCHO is then forced to publish it. They can't afford to not be the main source of information, so rather than getting bypassed they write a story, maybe they interview a commissioner or something. They don't get told much of substance, then we all end up speculating.
For instance, someone began speculating on the boards about Q pac wanting to leave the ecac. someone else saw it, tweeted it, the next thing you know, there's an article.
Same thing in pro hockey. someone tweeted about the wings having a goalie they were looking to trade for a right handed defenseman. Next thing you know, there's an article analyzing the plusses and minuses of them doing it.
Now if i'm speculating on the possible ramifications. ND might switch, but I'm thinking they are going to hang with it for a while and see if things get better, if they feel more at home, and how the money is working out. I think they would prefer to stay all things being equal.
I'm not a media guy but this is how I see this kind of story getting started.
Some student at a student newspaper writes an article. Might be somewhat accurate. It gets picked up by a poster who posts a link to it. makes a comment. Someone speculates what the words mean. (In this case, I'm sure that ND is unhappy with the refereeing. And not so much the travel, but I'm sure they do not feel fairly treated by the refs. rightly or wrongly.)
Then someone tweets it, and it get's a life on social media. USCHO is then forced to publish it. They can't afford to not be the main source of information, so rather than getting bypassed they write a story, maybe they interview a commissioner or something. They don't get told much of substance, then we all end up speculating.
For instance, someone began speculating on the boards about Q pac wanting to leave the ecac. someone else saw it, tweeted it, the next thing you know, there's an article.
Same thing in pro hockey. someone tweeted about the wings having a goalie they were looking to trade for a right handed defenseman. Next thing you know, there's an article analyzing the plusses and minuses of them doing it.
Now if i'm speculating on the possible ramifications. ND might switch, but I'm thinking they are going to hang with it for a while and see if things get better, if they feel more at home, and how the money is working out. I think they would prefer to stay all things being equal.
willythekid
New member
Re: Weighing Realignment?
Western bias woofing? He was defending the calling of the wcha and the NCHC inferior... now, you can make a case for the new wcha but the NCHC? Come on, it's the conference that every other conference strives to be. It's kinda the bee's knees. Actually not kinda. Vastly superior super duper league. All asu and the dame would do is dilute it. And we already have cc doing that.
Western bias woofing? He was defending the calling of the wcha and the NCHC inferior... now, you can make a case for the new wcha but the NCHC? Come on, it's the conference that every other conference strives to be. It's kinda the bee's knees. Actually not kinda. Vastly superior super duper league. All asu and the dame would do is dilute it. And we already have cc doing that.
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giwan
Really??!!
Re: Weighing Realignment?
Mostly football and basketball related. Not sure how proceeds would be distributed. In fact I'm not sure I've met anyone that watches the BTN but somebody must.
Mostly football and basketball related. Not sure how proceeds would be distributed. In fact I'm not sure I've met anyone that watches the BTN but somebody must.
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: Weighing Realignment?
The biggest thing we all have to realize in these discussions about ND is that there is big difference between what the team and the coaching staff thinks, maybe even the athletic department...and its a completely different group of people that ultimately get to decide where ND sports reside. As much as Jackson may not want to be in Hockey East and they would prefer NCHC or maybe even WCHA for travel reasons, it won't matter as long as ND has deal with NBC Sports and NCHC is attached to CBS Sports, etc.
The biggest thing we all have to realize in these discussions about ND is that there is big difference between what the team and the coaching staff thinks, maybe even the athletic department...and its a completely different group of people that ultimately get to decide where ND sports reside. As much as Jackson may not want to be in Hockey East and they would prefer NCHC or maybe even WCHA for travel reasons, it won't matter as long as ND has deal with NBC Sports and NCHC is attached to CBS Sports, etc.
Got 6 Want More
New member
Re: Weighing Realignment?
Oops. Brain fart on BC. They are, of course, in the ACC.
By inferior I was referring to level of recognition, revenue potential/TV exposure. Roll your eyes all you want, any of the teams in the WCHA or NCHC would rather be in the Big 6/10 for the reasons above. If hockey is to become a big-money sport with significant TV and merchandise revenue more big-time schools like AZ St. will have to move to varsity status. Notre Dame vs. Michigan or Michigan State vs. Ohio State will bring a much larger TV audience than Duluth vs. Neb.-Omaha, Mich. Tech vs. Bowling Green, or St. Lawrence vs. Colgate.
BC is in the B1G?
I assume you mean inferior, which makes a whole lot of sense considering the NCHC and WCHA combine for 8 of the top 9 Pairwise spots.
Oops. Brain fart on BC. They are, of course, in the ACC.
By inferior I was referring to level of recognition, revenue potential/TV exposure. Roll your eyes all you want, any of the teams in the WCHA or NCHC would rather be in the Big 6/10 for the reasons above. If hockey is to become a big-money sport with significant TV and merchandise revenue more big-time schools like AZ St. will have to move to varsity status. Notre Dame vs. Michigan or Michigan State vs. Ohio State will bring a much larger TV audience than Duluth vs. Neb.-Omaha, Mich. Tech vs. Bowling Green, or St. Lawrence vs. Colgate.
Re: Weighing Realignment?
Maybe we can just sort all the teams alphabetically and then have 8 conferences of 7 - 8 teams each?
Oh, wait, then people would argue about whether we sort by school name or nickname, W for Wisconsin or B for Badgers, etc.
There are probably more ideas on this subject than there are people expounding.....
Maybe we can just sort all the teams alphabetically and then have 8 conferences of 7 - 8 teams each?
Oh, wait, then people would argue about whether we sort by school name or nickname, W for Wisconsin or B for Badgers, etc.
There are probably more ideas on this subject than there are people expounding.....
Got 6 Want More
New member
blackswampboy
New member
IrishHockeyFan
Still outranks his daughter
Re: Weighing Realignment?
I almost never post anymore, but I guess I need to hang around just enough to continue to quash any talk of a Notre Dame/B1G alignment. For many, many deep seated and long standing reasons, Notre Dame is not, nor will they EVER be, joining the B1G. The conference doesn't want Notre Dame anymore and Notre Dame wants no part of the B1G and hasn't since Fielding Yost was still alive and hating Catholics. I don't know how many times it needs to be said, or how much more plainly it could be said. Notre Dame to the B1G is not happening. Not for hockey. Not for all sports. Not for anything. This dead horse has been beaten not only beyond death, but beyond whatever comes after death for horses. Notre Dame's hockey will be independent and the football team will drop to 1AA and join the Ivys (where they just might be able to consistently compete) before there would be a Notre Dame/B1G marriage.
You may all now return to your rumor mongering. Have fun.
I almost never post anymore, but I guess I need to hang around just enough to continue to quash any talk of a Notre Dame/B1G alignment. For many, many deep seated and long standing reasons, Notre Dame is not, nor will they EVER be, joining the B1G. The conference doesn't want Notre Dame anymore and Notre Dame wants no part of the B1G and hasn't since Fielding Yost was still alive and hating Catholics. I don't know how many times it needs to be said, or how much more plainly it could be said. Notre Dame to the B1G is not happening. Not for hockey. Not for all sports. Not for anything. This dead horse has been beaten not only beyond death, but beyond whatever comes after death for horses. Notre Dame's hockey will be independent and the football team will drop to 1AA and join the Ivys (where they just might be able to consistently compete) before there would be a Notre Dame/B1G marriage.
You may all now return to your rumor mongering. Have fun.
aparch
Well-known member
They blew up the West. Time for them to leave their mark on the East.
Maybe now the Ivy's will get off their * and form their own conference?