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Wednesday NCAA Hockey - The Road to Lewiston begins - and that's no snow job!

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Pichette made it 3-0 before Herman gets one back for the Vikings. End 1 SOG 12 - 5 Cadets
 
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3-1 Norwich after one.. Cadets scored three straight before Vikings hit the back of the net.
 
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Blugold Hockey said:
It will be interesting to see how the UWSP and Adrian do after having a weekend with no games. I think UWSP will be able to make up for it and beat UST, but a UST win isn't that far off either. UWSP losing to UWEC may have only extended their season by 60 mins. I think a focused SNC squad will handle Adrian and the score could be fairly one sided again because of the time Adrian missed (yes both teams practiced during that time, but how focused were they really).

In Maine I think it will be a West vs West Championship for the first time since 2008 when the brackets were set up to make an all East or all West final possible. Even though there are some very stellar records out east, I think the West will continue its recent dominance and one or even two of the semi games could be ugly. In the end I think SNC will be the victors.
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By ugly do you mean overly physical or do you mean blowout scores?
 
AQs are BS

AQs are BS

snc1 said:
What you should have a bad feeling about is how Norwich backed it's way into the tournament and then got Salem St. as their opponent.
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After watching the complete dominance of NU (whom you infer should not be in the tourney) over Salem in that period, I'm now a full-fledged proponent of abolishing the AQs, and throwing all 11 bids into Pool C. Should the other two play-in games go as this one is heading (South) - the entire first round is a mockery of hockey. It's akin to awarding "participation" awards in youth sports. Can someone convince my why we shouldn't be watching P'burgh, Trinity, or even Utica tonight instead of this embarrassment?
 
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elbojpb said:
After watching the complete dominance of NU (whom you infer should not be in the tourney) over Salem in that period, I'm now a full-fledged proponent of abolishing the AQs, and throwing all 11 bids into Pool C. Should the other two play-in games go as this one is heading (South) - the entire first round is a mockery of hockey. It's akin to awarding "participation" awards in youth sports. Can someone convince my why we shouldn't be watching P'burgh, Trinity, or even Utica tonight instead of this embarrassment?
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+1 I dont get into the rankings and the whole playoff system to much, as I cannot keep up with the rest of you guys, BUT I have to agree, wouldnt it be nice to watch a Norwich /Platty rematch??Perhaps Fish will be able to settle this once and for all:eek:
 
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elbojpb said:
After watching the complete dominance of NU (whom you infer should not be in the tourney) over Salem in that period, I'm now a full-fledged proponent of abolishing the AQs, and throwing all 11 bids into Pool C. Should the other two play-in games go as this one is heading (South) - the entire first round is a mockery of hockey. It's akin to awarding "participation" awards in youth sports. Can someone convince my why we shouldn't be watching P'burgh, Trinity, or even Utica tonight instead of this embarrassment?
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Because winning a conference tournament, in any NCAA sport in any NCAA Division, provided your conference meets all the requirements, gets you an automatic bid into the tournament.

Otherwise there are a bunch of conferences which would never get a bid to the tournaments. Those student-athletes would be just like the Ivy League NESCAC in football - regular season and go back to the books.

Your post smacks of elitism. I didn't think you went to a NESCAC institution, did you?

Dudzinzki - twice 5 - 1

BTW when Salem played Norwich in the 2008 ECAC-E final it was 8 - 2 Norwich. Nothing has changed in the 6 years.
 
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Blugold Hockey said:
In Maine I think it will be a West vs West Championship for the first time since 2008 when the brackets were set up to make an all East or all West final possible.
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In 2008 St. Norbert beat Plattsburgh in the final (Norwich and Elmira were the other finalists) while in 2011 they beat Adrian in the latest all west final. Not trying to split hairs, just making sure the facts are correct.
 
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Norwich up 6-1..... I think they may go for the 2pt conversion???..edit I was wrong they took the 1 pt...its 7-1...
 
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joecct said:
Otherwise there are a bunch of conferences which would never get a bid to the tournaments. Those student-athletes would be just like the Ivy League NESCAC in football - regular season and go back to the books.

Your post smacks of elitism. I didn't think you went to a NESCAC institution, did you?
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I'm an ACC (UVa) undergrad / IVY (Cornell) graduate alumnus who is tired of watching sub-par hockey in the post season. If the "bunch of conferences" are bad they shouldn't be in the post season in a sport with so few participants.

PS it's 7-1 with ~30 minutes to go.

edit: After watching Emery's show, he agrees with this proposition.

PSS - After Ducky's departure Como is the best in the D3 game
 
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The theory is these teams will get better if they have something to play for, the reality is they won't and this is the type of thing you get.
 
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8-1 as Pichette adds his second of the night...another PP tally
 
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I guess we can be thankful that there is not a full bracket of 16 or you would end up with the #1 seed against #16.
 
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elbojpb said:
After watching the complete dominance of NU (whom you infer should not be in the tourney) over Salem in that period, I'm now a full-fledged proponent of abolishing the AQs, and throwing all 11 bids into Pool C. Should the other two play-in games go as this one is heading (South) - the entire first round is a mockery of hockey. It's akin to awarding "participation" awards in youth sports. Can someone convince my why we shouldn't be watching P'burgh, Trinity, or even Utica tonight instead of this embarrassment?
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What is really the issue is the ratio of Pool A to Pool C bids and the number of upsets in the league tournaments. Most likely if Trinity and Geneseo had won their tournaments, Bowdoin and Oswego wouldnt be in, and that would have freed up a couple of Pool B slots. If the leagues would play best of 3 rounds instead of single games, it would be less likely that big upsets would happen, and if everybody did it, nobody would gain a big advantage in the hunt for Pool C.

Even one more Pool B spot would help get a deserving team in. Iso understand the concept of giving a conference an auto bid, even the ECAC/NE, and and MASCAC deserve a chance to show what they can do on the big stage. This game is no worse than what we see every year in the Basketball tournament in the 1/16 and 2/15 match ups.
 
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elbojpb said:
After watching the complete dominance of NU (whom you infer should not be in the tourney) over Salem in that period, I'm now a full-fledged proponent of abolishing the AQs, and throwing all 11 bids into Pool C. Should the other two play-in games go as this one is heading (South) - the entire first round is a mockery of hockey. It's akin to awarding "participation" awards in youth sports. Can someone convince my why we shouldn't be watching P'burgh, Trinity, or even Utica tonight instead of this embarrassment?
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This system of the AQs isn't unique to just D3 hockey. Look at the autobids in the NCAA bouncey ball tourney. Every once in a while you see the underdog like UVM was a few years ago upset the number 2 seed (Syracuse). But it is less than more. These teams won their conference and do deserve the chance. I would have liked nothing more to see Plattsburgh get an at large bid, but they have no one to blame but themselves. They tanked at the wrong time of year.
 
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Birdwatcher said:
This system of the AQs isn't unique to just D3 hockey. Look at the autobids in the NCAA bouncey ball tourney. Every once in a while you see the underdog like UVM was a few years ago upset the number 2 seed (Syracuse). But it is less than more. These teams won their conference and do deserve the chance. I would have liked nothing more to see Plattsburgh get an at large bid, but they have no one to blame but themselves. They tanked at the wrong time of year.
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I think the bottom line is we all want to see the top teams,and I can say without a problem, salem is NOT a top team,they did play by the rules and get the aq, but after that,your guess is as good as anybodys......ps i would put the top 6 teams in the SUNYAC in b4 Salem.
 
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