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WCHA 2015-16: So here's what we think that we know...
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gfmorris
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Re: WCHA 2015-16: So here's what we think that we know...
If there's anything less than a UAH sweep here, someone's going to have to drive me to and home from the bar.
GFM
If there's anything less than a UAH sweep here, someone's going to have to drive me to and home from the bar.
GFM
From the fans' perspective, wouldn't they prefer 9-7 than 2-1?
purpleinnebraska
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Well, I admit that when a team is putting on an offensive clinic, it's fun to watch. But when a game looks like the NHL All-Star games of the last few years, no. I think most value defense and solid checking, but right now, there's an unhealthy mix of grab, clutch, obstruct, and trap
And the Big Ten plays by the same rules as the WCHA. They simply have the ability to attract more high end offensive talent.
gfmorris
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Re: WCHA 2015-16: So here's what we think that we know...
Here's the Week 11 BELOW ratings: http://blog.wchaplayoffs.com/2015/12/18/week-11-below-ratings/
It's a slow week on the ISS, so I've gotten a lot done the last two nights. We'll see how things go — lots of console shifts between now and the 5th of January (12 to be exact).
GFM
Here's the Week 11 BELOW ratings: http://blog.wchaplayoffs.com/2015/12/18/week-11-below-ratings/
It's a slow week on the ISS, so I've gotten a lot done the last two nights. We'll see how things go — lots of console shifts between now and the 5th of January (12 to be exact).
GFM
TalonsUpPuckDown
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Re: WCHA 2015-16: So here's what we think that we know...
This will come in very handy in the quest to take down that rascally Nacho Miami Stater who has been leading the WCHA Pick 'Em since week 1.
Information is power. Carry on.
This will come in very handy in the quest to take down that rascally Nacho Miami Stater who has been leading the WCHA Pick 'Em since week 1.
Information is power. Carry on.
gfmorris
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Re: WCHA 2015-16: So here's what we think that we know...
Sadly the league is so tight right now that it's often a crapshoot. Also, when I used KRACH to pick games when I was the CHA correspondent for USCHO (2002-4, I think), I ... didn't fare well.
GFM
Sadly the league is so tight right now that it's often a crapshoot. Also, when I used KRACH to pick games when I was the CHA correspondent for USCHO (2002-4, I think), I ... didn't fare well.
GFM
Re: WCHA 2015-16: So here's what we think that we know...
Not just that, but since the 80s-90s, goalies in general have become a lot bigger and more athletic, and stronger defensive systems have developed. I think that's what's really knocked down the scoring from the earlier time period. I would like to see the size of goalie pads reduced as a prime way to get scoring up a little. With all the technology we have, that shouldn't be a problem while still keeping goalie safety in mind. Calling more interference penalties would help some, but it can be difficult to get all the officials to be consistent with doing that to the ire of the coaches and players.
gfmorris
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Yes, but it's not clear to me that the officiating in the WCHA is willing to call obstruction and interference. I don't think that you need reduced goalie pads or even vastly better talent to get us back above 6.0 G/GM combined — I think that you just need to treat these infractions as seriously as you do the emphasis on majors.
GFM
Yes, but it's not clear to me that the officiating in the WCHA is willing to call obstruction and interference. I don't think that you need reduced goalie pads or even vastly better talent to get us back above 6.0 G/GM combined — I think that you just need to treat these infractions as seriously as you do the emphasis on majors.
GFM
Shirtless Guy
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Re: WCHA 2015-16: So here's what we think that we know...
The bad part would be the the transition period where the games just get awful and chopped up with way too much special teams time. Not sure how fast players would properly react to enforcement but I do agree. The problem to me is that its a bit of a chick little issue. They've probably talked big about enforcing those rules on and off for a decade and keep falling back to "letting them play" rather quickly.
The bad part would be the the transition period where the games just get awful and chopped up with way too much special teams time. Not sure how fast players would properly react to enforcement but I do agree. The problem to me is that its a bit of a chick little issue. They've probably talked big about enforcing those rules on and off for a decade and keep falling back to "letting them play" rather quickly.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
I guess I'm more pessimistic in that I think it'll end up like CFB, called to point that anything resembling a CFB was called and it ruined games and players started to play for the penalty (i.e. constantly kept their backs away from the boards).
manurespreader
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Re: WCHA 2015-16: So here's what we think that we know...
Watching the UAH vs CC game, I thought before this that we had a lot of uncalled interference in our league, until tonight. But CC is a master at the offensive zone pick. disgusting. Really amazed the refs didn't call some of it. CC repeatedly interfered and was able to maintain offensive zone possession because of it.
Watching the UAH vs CC game, I thought before this that we had a lot of uncalled interference in our league, until tonight. But CC is a master at the offensive zone pick. disgusting. Really amazed the refs didn't call some of it. CC repeatedly interfered and was able to maintain offensive zone possession because of it.
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gfmorris
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So back to overtime things, and this is related to the BELOW project I'm working on:
If we're going to modify the 2-0-1 format for points distribution, I think that there are two reasonable alternatives:
W-OTW-T/OTL-L 3-2-1-0. This encourages teams to go for the win in overtime, as the extra point is valuable.
W-OTW-T-OTL-L 4-3-2-1-0. I am afraid that this encourages ties, but it really encourages teams to go for it in regulation.
So I thought that I'd look at the standings as they currently are and how they'd be under each system.
Minnesota State: 9-1-4—22 | 9-0-4-1—31 | 9-0-4-0-1—44
Bowling Green: 8-2-4—20 | 7-1-4-2—27 | 7-1-4-0-2—39
Michigan Tech: 9-6-1—19 | 8-1-1-6—27 | 8-1-1-0-6—37
Ferris State: 7-7-2—16 | 6-1-4-5—24 | 6-1-2-2-5—33
Northern Michigan: 5-5-4—14 | 5-0-6-3—24 | 5-0-4-2-3—30
Alaska-Anchorage: 5-5-2—12 | 5-0-3-4—18 | 5-0-2-1-5—25
Lake Superior: 4-4-4—12 | 4-0-5-3—17 | 4-0-4-1-3—25
Bemidji State: 4-8-2—10 | 4-0-2-8—16 | 4-0-2-0-8—20
Alaska: 3-8-3—9 | 3-0-3-8—12 | 3-0-3-0-8—18
Alabama-Huntsville: 2-10-2—6 | 1-1-2-10—8 | 1-1-2-1-9—12
There aren't any changes here, but there is some more separation. I'd rather have this than tiebreakers.
Games left for WCHA teams:
16: Alaska-Anchorage, Lake Superior
14: Alabama-Huntsville, Alaska, Bemidji State, Bowling Green, Minnesota State, Northern Michigan
12: Ferris State, Michigan Tech
It's also a matter of who you play as much as how many. I noted the possibilities for the remaining 70 games on Friday, and it's pretty ugly for some schools. The same list with the number of games that team would be favored to win in parentheses:
16: Alaska-Anchorage (8), Lake Superior (0, but they're a wash with Ferris)
14: Alabama-Huntsville (0), Alaska (4), Bemidji State (10), Bowling Green (10), Minnesota State (14), Northern Michigan (10)
12: Ferris State (2 and 2 a wash with Lake), Michigan Tech (10)
Based on that, and without all the math that I have left to do undone, here's a half-guess as to the final standings:
1-MSU, 2-BGSU, 3-MTU, 4-NMU, 5-UAA, 6-FSU, 7-BSU, 8-LSSU, 9-UAF, 10-UAH
That makes Bemidji, Fairbanks, and Huntsville the big disappointments of the season so far.
This concludes Thoughts from the Midnight Shift.
GFM
So back to overtime things, and this is related to the BELOW project I'm working on:
If we're going to modify the 2-0-1 format for points distribution, I think that there are two reasonable alternatives:
W-OTW-T/OTL-L 3-2-1-0. This encourages teams to go for the win in overtime, as the extra point is valuable.
W-OTW-T-OTL-L 4-3-2-1-0. I am afraid that this encourages ties, but it really encourages teams to go for it in regulation.
So I thought that I'd look at the standings as they currently are and how they'd be under each system.
Minnesota State: 9-1-4—22 | 9-0-4-1—31 | 9-0-4-0-1—44
Bowling Green: 8-2-4—20 | 7-1-4-2—27 | 7-1-4-0-2—39
Michigan Tech: 9-6-1—19 | 8-1-1-6—27 | 8-1-1-0-6—37
Ferris State: 7-7-2—16 | 6-1-4-5—24 | 6-1-2-2-5—33
Northern Michigan: 5-5-4—14 | 5-0-6-3—24 | 5-0-4-2-3—30
Alaska-Anchorage: 5-5-2—12 | 5-0-3-4—18 | 5-0-2-1-5—25
Lake Superior: 4-4-4—12 | 4-0-5-3—17 | 4-0-4-1-3—25
Bemidji State: 4-8-2—10 | 4-0-2-8—16 | 4-0-2-0-8—20
Alaska: 3-8-3—9 | 3-0-3-8—12 | 3-0-3-0-8—18
Alabama-Huntsville: 2-10-2—6 | 1-1-2-10—8 | 1-1-2-1-9—12
There aren't any changes here, but there is some more separation. I'd rather have this than tiebreakers.
Games left for WCHA teams:
16: Alaska-Anchorage, Lake Superior
14: Alabama-Huntsville, Alaska, Bemidji State, Bowling Green, Minnesota State, Northern Michigan
12: Ferris State, Michigan Tech
It's also a matter of who you play as much as how many. I noted the possibilities for the remaining 70 games on Friday, and it's pretty ugly for some schools. The same list with the number of games that team would be favored to win in parentheses:
16: Alaska-Anchorage (8), Lake Superior (0, but they're a wash with Ferris)
14: Alabama-Huntsville (0), Alaska (4), Bemidji State (10), Bowling Green (10), Minnesota State (14), Northern Michigan (10)
12: Ferris State (2 and 2 a wash with Lake), Michigan Tech (10)
Based on that, and without all the math that I have left to do undone, here's a half-guess as to the final standings:
1-MSU, 2-BGSU, 3-MTU, 4-NMU, 5-UAA, 6-FSU, 7-BSU, 8-LSSU, 9-UAF, 10-UAH
That makes Bemidji, Fairbanks, and Huntsville the big disappointments of the season so far.
This concludes Thoughts from the Midnight Shift.
GFM
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Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Fixed. (Hopefully)
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
The url tag.
gfmorris
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Re: WCHA 2015-16: So here's what we think that we know...
Ahhhh, thanks. I corrected the initial post as well.
GFM
Ahhhh, thanks. I corrected the initial post as well.
GFM
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