Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

[Jayden_Stoff]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

You're right, one got swept at home in the quarterfinals, one won the league tourney. Pretty similar.

Would Juan say one won once?

 

[Patronick]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

And yes I compared the two... Was Lowells year last year better then VT's? Sure they won HE, does that make it alot better... UML was 16-9-2 (34pts) last season, VT was 15-8-4 (34pts) in '09.

Hate to break it to you, but winning the league with 34 points indicates that the league in general was better last year than it was in 2009, as the points were spread out more evenly among the teams. So what you're saying is Vermont pounded on weaklings and Lowell, despite a terrible start, was the best team in maybe the hardest top-to-bottom Hockey East schedule ever and Vermont squeaked by to finish fourth in a softer league. Thank you for validating my point.

That's pretty comparable absent the league title chief.

Pretty big thing to leave absent, but when you're as bad as Vermont I guess you have to take the moral victories where you can get 'em.

 

[all bear]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Nothing quite like watching UmassLow and Vtfans going back at it again. You all are meant for each other Carry on

 

[PuckVoice]

Now official ... Marty St. Louis now playing his 1,000th NHL game ... Former Catamount ... Future Hall of Famer!

 

[jcarter7669]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Hate to break it to you, but winning the league with 34 points indicates that the league in general was better last year than it was in 2009, as the points were spread out more evenly among the teams. So what you're saying is Vermont pounded on weaklings and Lowell, despite a terrible start, was the best team in maybe the hardest top-to-bottom Hockey East schedule ever and Vermont squeaked by to finish fourth in a softer league. Thank you for validating my point.

Pretty big thing to leave absent, but when you're as bad as Vermont I guess you have to take the moral victories where you can get 'em.

Look I know your mentally challenged and I try to have some patience with you, but you've won. I'm giving up. I have better things to do than argue with a stump. You really make me want Lowell to fail even more then I usually do just so you will crawl back under your rock and disappear again. Hopefully soon, Lowell will return to their mediocre status and your head will deflate a little. Until then I'll add you to my ignore list.

 

[jcarter7669]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Enough with the Lowell flamers...

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[Cat lover]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Hate to break it to you, but winning the league with 34 points indicates that the league in general was better last year than it was in 2009, as the points were spread out more evenly among the teams. So what you're saying is Vermont pounded on weaklings and Lowell, despite a terrible start, was the best team in maybe the hardest top-to-bottom Hockey East schedule ever and Vermont squeaked by to finish fourth in a softer league. Thank you for validating my point.

Pretty big thing to leave absent, but when you're as bad as Vermont I guess you have to take the moral victories where you can get 'em.

You have to understand that UML's success is all a guy like Pat has going in his life. And before you comment Pat
remember your being here in our thread is all the proof my point needs.

 

[Martin St. Louis Fan]

You have to understand that UML's success is all a guy like Pat has going in his life. And before you comment Pat
remember your being here in our thread is all the proof my point needs.

Sitting in Lowell , MA and bragging about anything is hilarious!

Apologies to real UML fans, but this is getting pretty lame!

 

[UVM - Bruin]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Enough of the UML talk, let them troll another thread.

Looks like old friend Kevan Miller could get called up to the Bruins:

http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/...play-spooner-at-defense-ahl-boston-bruins-nhl

Although the article references a penalty he took on a bad play where they lost the game on the ensuing powerplay; sounds like he's never out grown the "Sneddon lack of discipline" aspect of his game.

 

[pokecheckguy]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Who cares about the Lowell guys I don't but hey they are playing better hockey right now and we all know sports fandom is about kicking a team when its down UVM is playing bad hockey right now and have been for a few years is what it is and you are what your record says you are says Bill Parcells. Not letting it bother me.
Hope Miller gets some ice time with the big Bruins would be cool to see I'll be watching. Also saw this on Alistair Ingram's twitter feed thought it was pretty cool, it's awards for VErmont sports media and venues and stuff. I voted for Ted Ryan because he's basically the only guy I read haha. Also Randolph Galloping Ghosts for best high school nickname thought it was cool to pass along to people here since we all are pretty decently informed people. http://www.sportingvermont.com/2013/11/2013-sporting-vermont-sporties-ballot/

 

[jcarter7669]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

I would like to see Miller get a shot. It seems as though getting that shot is the hardest part... It Thomas eons of toiling away to get a shot, and he then made the most of it. St Louis got a shot at Calgary but on the 4th line with little ice time, he truly got a shot with TB and took off. Stalberg got a shot with Chicago and did well, although his trade to Nashville hasn't worked out well.

Mitchell has been in the NHL for a while now, but I still feel like he hasn't gotten his chance, he has played a lot of games but on that 4th line, PK shut down guy. Mitchell has some offensive skill, I'd like to see him get some time on a truly offensive minded line. I bet he'd kicked it into high gear in terms of putting up points.

I always thought Fallon deserved a shot and hasn't really gotten one. He broke a lot of Thomas' records at UVM and is 2nd in most others. He was comparable in college to the likes of Schneider, Bishop, and Quick who have all gone on to make it into the starting line ups for NHL clubs. Yet Joe has yet to see NHL ice... although he did dress as the back up for Chicago.

I think sometimes it all comes down to who owns you. Chicago has had a good goalie all along, Tampa and LA haven't and so those guys get afforded the opportunity to try. Schneider didn't get much time until Loungo had a melt down, now he is fighting for time with Brodeur.

It's tough to crack that line up, and especially it seems in net. How many years did Jimmy Howard sit on the Detroit bench before he got his shot...
It seems that the NHL would benefit from letting some kids get more development time. There are a lot of good players playing the AHL that really just need an honest shot, and yet we have the Sabres taking Girgenson away from college so that he could post 1 goal in 22 games of NHL ice time... He isn't ready and instead of looking for the guys that 24-25-26 and have spent some time in the AHL biding their time they instead pick up the 19 year old that could benefit from 3-4 years of college to help transition and adjust.

just $.02

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

I always thought Fallon deserved a shot and hasn't really gotten one. He broke a lot of Thomas' records at UVM and is 2nd in most others. He was comparable in college to the likes of Schneider, Bishop, and Quick who have all gone on to make it into the starting line ups for NHL clubs. Yet Joe has yet to see NHL ice... although he did dress as the back up for Chicago.

Not looking to start a war here... I'll let you UVM guys and UML guys drool over each other for that part.

But I never got the sense Fallon was an elite goalie. He was a good to very good college goalie. The other 3 goalies were 3rd round or higher picks. Fallon 6th round. All 3 of those other guys left college early to sign big bucks. Fallon to me, at the time, and I still agree with that sense, seemed to be somewhat of a system goalie. UVM was very tight defensively in their style back then, more so than today and that is why you see him with such a low GAA (2.06 career). He had very good size and used it well. I wouldn't really put him on the level of Schneider or Quick. You could argue that he was similar to Bishop, especially because of the size they both have. Schneider and Quick both had career save % around .925 (Quick) and .924 (Schneider). Bishop and Fallon were similar at around .917 (Bishop) and .916 (Fallon). I always though Bishop was terribly overrated.

 

[UMLFan]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Now official ... Marty St. Louis now playing his 1,000th NHL game ... Former Catamount ... Future Hall of Famer!

Have to admit, I saw him play wayyyy back when, and while I thought he was a great college player, never thought he'd be as good as he has been at the NHL level. Very impressive numbers for him, and well deserved.

 

[UVM - Bruin]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Look like Kevan Miller will indeed make his NHL debut tonight in Boston, good for him.

http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey...alled_from_providence_on_emergency_basis.html

 

[jcarter7669]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Not looking to start a war here... I'll let you UVM guys and UML guys drool over each other for that part.

But I never got the sense Fallon was an elite goalie. He was a good to very good college goalie. The other 3 goalies were 3rd round or higher picks. Fallon 6th round. All 3 of those other guys left college early to sign big bucks. Fallon to me, at the time, and I still agree with that sense, seemed to be somewhat of a system goalie. UVM was very tight defensively in their style back then, more so than today and that is why you see him with such a low GAA (2.06 career). He had very good size and used it well. I wouldn't really put him on the level of Schneider or Quick. You could argue that he was similar to Bishop, especially because of the size they both have. Schneider and Quick both had career save % around .925 (Quick) and .924 (Schneider). Bishop and Fallon were similar at around .917 (Bishop) and .916 (Fallon). I always though Bishop was terribly overrated.

While I would agree that part of his stats being was due to the fact he was surrounded by a defensive minded squad. I would also argue that Schneider's numbers benefitted from playing for BC. It's easy to put up good numbers when your teams always on offense...

So I think both goalies had their advantages on their respective programs. That said, of the 2 years in HE together Fallon led the league in GAA both years, while Schneider was second both years... and Schneider did have a better save %.

I'm not trying to argue which was a better goaltender... just that it is remarkably hard for a tender to get a real shot in the NHL. And I find it puzzling to some degree that Fallon hasn't gotten some time on the ice. Especially when there are teams desperate for goaltending. I'm mean heck, FLA settled for a 39 year old republican , Calgary has no idea what to do, and would be better off had they plucked up Gilles, and the EDM has resorted to bringing in Byzgalov??


Kudos for Hutton and Bishop getting their chances this year.

In other NHL news :

Thomas beats Luongo again...
Miller has been called up by the bruins...
Mitchell is out for minnesota with injury...

 

[Kdaddy1968]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Hate to break it to you, but winning the league with 34 points indicates that the league in general was better last year than it was in 2009, as the points were spread out more evenly among the teams. So what you're saying is Vermont pounded on weaklings and Lowell, despite a terrible start, was the best team in maybe the hardest top-to-bottom Hockey East schedule ever and Vermont squeaked by to finish fourth in a softer league. Thank you for validating my point.

Pretty big thing to leave absent, but when you're as bad as Vermont I guess you have to take the moral victories where you can get 'em.

Hate to break it to you...unless you won it all it really doesn't matter. Like the Patriots losing to the Giants...great regular seasons mean squat... UML and UVM have about the same record where it counts...and neither have won it all (but at least thanks to the CC loss there is replay for ****ty goals)

 

[Kdaddy1968]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

You have to understand that UML's success is all a guy like Pat has going in his life. And before you comment Pat
remember your being here in our thread is all the proof my point needs.

And our winner for post of the week...

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

That said, of the 2 years in HE together Fallon led the league in GAA both years, while Schneider was second both years... and Schneider did have a better save %.

The difference between the two numbers in a lot of cases is indicative of what's going on. In this case it does seem to represent the difference between the two goalies and their programs at the time.

ps - the BC defense during the Schneider years... not what one would call a who's who of future NHLers like you could say today. Unless you count Brian Boyle back there in the end of 2007 as a future NHLer (but not on defense). Even Harrold has been known to play forward in the NHL at times. After that you're talking about AHL lifers at best with a lot of that crew.

 

[boblav1]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Look like Kevan Miller will indeed make his NHL debut tonight in Boston, good for him.

http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey...alled_from_providence_on_emergency_basis.html

Kevan Miller’s Debut Earns Praise From Claude Julien, Coach Says Defenseman Played ‘Extremely Well’

 

[jcarter7669]

Re: Vermont 2013-2014 Season Thread : The Golden Year

Nice to see Miller have a good game and making the most of his time with the B's.

On another note Hendrickson and Connelly both pick a split this weekend with each team taking advantage of home ice.

Finally, as much as I love UVM's Jersey selections over the past few years... I must say, the Camo ones I think are a tad... well.... hideous.