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UW-Stout offseason thread
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XYZ
Smoking in the selection room.
Re: UW-Stout offseason thread
The best part of this story is not included in that article. When he was first pulled over the officers asked him why he's driving a scooter on the ramp.
"I don't know how I got on it, I'm just trying to get the hell off of it." was his reply.
Or something very similar.
The best part of this story is not included in that article. When he was first pulled over the officers asked him why he's driving a scooter on the ramp.
"I don't know how I got on it, I'm just trying to get the hell off of it." was his reply.
Or something very similar.
powerofyellowandblack
Oh so very, very tired
Re: UW-Stout offseason thread
Let's read this statement carefully: "While the OWI charges may seem strange, many states do not stipulate between types of vehicles when charging with OWI, DWI or DUI. In fact, DUI charges for riding a bicycle may be charged the same as those for driving a car. Judges typically opt for lower penalties in these cases, but the charges are the same."
You tell me where in this paragraph where it mentions Wisconsin having this law, and I will eat this computer monitor. Well, not THIS computer monitor, since it is property of work, but my home monitor I will. But I digress. Yes, the motorized scooter guy was in Wisconsin. But that does not really mean that a non-motorized form of transportation counts in this great state. You. Lose.
Let's read this statement carefully: "While the OWI charges may seem strange, many states do not stipulate between types of vehicles when charging with OWI, DWI or DUI. In fact, DUI charges for riding a bicycle may be charged the same as those for driving a car. Judges typically opt for lower penalties in these cases, but the charges are the same."
You tell me where in this paragraph where it mentions Wisconsin having this law, and I will eat this computer monitor. Well, not THIS computer monitor, since it is property of work, but my home monitor I will. But I digress. Yes, the motorized scooter guy was in Wisconsin. But that does not really mean that a non-motorized form of transportation counts in this great state. You. Lose.
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Re: UW-Stout offseason thread
...so is this where I post this?
(...though this is probably for whoever started going down the path of "the guy should've gotten an OWI")
...so is this where I post this?
(...though this is probably for whoever started going down the path of "the guy should've gotten an OWI")
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gojackets
New member
Re: UW-Stout offseason thread
I can't believe that I'm contributing to this discussion or just took the last 10 minutes to find this information.
http://www.legis.state.wi.us/statutes/Stat0346.pdf
WI State Statute 346 Subchapter 10 "Reckless and Drunken Driving" Section 346.63 subsection 1.
It clearly states motor vehicle
Under Subchater 10 Section 346.62 "reckless driving" It clearly states a vehicle here and references the definition of a vehicle.
Which can be found here
and is defined as
The definition of a "vehicle" would clearly include a bicycle but everything under Statute 346.63 references a motor vehicle...which to me means you can't get a OWI for riding a non-motorized vehicle(aka bicycle) on the road.
There is even a whole section regarding bicycles under the first link I provided Statute 346 Subchapter 12. Nowhere in that section does it reference biking under the influence.
Again I apologize for participating in this assanine, irrelevant section of the discussion...but maybe thought I could put it to rest??
I can't believe that I'm contributing to this discussion or just took the last 10 minutes to find this information.
http://www.legis.state.wi.us/statutes/Stat0346.pdf
WI State Statute 346 Subchapter 10 "Reckless and Drunken Driving" Section 346.63 subsection 1.
It clearly states motor vehicle
Under Subchater 10 Section 346.62 "reckless driving" It clearly states a vehicle here and references the definition of a vehicle.
Which can be found here
and is defined as
The definition of a "vehicle" would clearly include a bicycle but everything under Statute 346.63 references a motor vehicle...which to me means you can't get a OWI for riding a non-motorized vehicle(aka bicycle) on the road.
There is even a whole section regarding bicycles under the first link I provided Statute 346 Subchapter 12. Nowhere in that section does it reference biking under the influence.
Again I apologize for participating in this assanine, irrelevant section of the discussion...but maybe thought I could put it to rest??
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Re: UW-Stout offseason thread
I suspect gojackets is right, but one way or another, it really doesn't matter. Contributory negligence simply isn't going to be an available defense. More importantly, the future of Stout's program won't turn on the outcome of any criminal case. If the team folds, it will be because of the perception that members of the hockey team threaten or jeopardize the safety of other Stout students.
I suspect gojackets is right, but one way or another, it really doesn't matter. Contributory negligence simply isn't going to be an available defense. More importantly, the future of Stout's program won't turn on the outcome of any criminal case. If the team folds, it will be because of the perception that members of the hockey team threaten or jeopardize the safety of other Stout students.
GBhockeygal
Registered User
Re: UW-Stout offseason thread
Could we simply get back to hockey, and what the potential of Stout getting to skate this season is? And who decides if they have to forfeit the season or not - the university, the NCHA or the NCAA?
Sorry - didn't have time to dig through this massive thread to see what the status of the team's season is.
Could we simply get back to hockey, and what the potential of Stout getting to skate this season is? And who decides if they have to forfeit the season or not - the university, the NCHA or the NCAA?
Sorry - didn't have time to dig through this massive thread to see what the status of the team's season is.
BlueDevilAdvocate
Puttin' on the foil!
Re: UW-Stout offseason thread
Currently the season is a go. The first home game was moved to an away game and most of you can see why.
Like you said, the team's ability to play won't be determined by two individuals being on trial. The statement from the Chancellor: "We have two other students who face serious legal consequences." Say two not a team.
Currently the season is a go. The first home game was moved to an away game and most of you can see why.
Like you said, the team's ability to play won't be determined by two individuals being on trial. The statement from the Chancellor: "We have two other students who face serious legal consequences." Say two not a team.
gojackets
New member
BlueDevilAdvocate
Puttin' on the foil!
MW4Bucky&SNC
Done with Winter
Re: UW-Stout offseason thread
Excellent question about the AQ for this year if there is a cancellation, but I'd suspect there would be a waiver as Hammer suggested. If they do pull the plug on the season it shouldn't be because 2 guys on the team are facing very serious charges. It should be because they uncovered more widespread lack of institutional control after this incident called attention to the team. That should be the criteria they use. As to what they'll find and what they'll do with it I won't set any odds.
Excellent question about the AQ for this year if there is a cancellation, but I'd suspect there would be a waiver as Hammer suggested. If they do pull the plug on the season it shouldn't be because 2 guys on the team are facing very serious charges. It should be because they uncovered more widespread lack of institutional control after this incident called attention to the team. That should be the criteria they use. As to what they'll find and what they'll do with it I won't set any odds.
norm1909
Larry Normandin
gojackets
New member
Re: UW-Stout offseason thread
I'd think this bullet is key in the discussion
I'd think this bullet is key in the discussion
BlueDevilAdvocate
Puttin' on the foil!
Re: UW-Stout offseason thread
Jacket- I don't disagree although it does say individuals. I'm not here defending my team blindly on this one, I just don't see how they can cancel an entire team sport for a season. It was two individuals and they will be tried, not the entire team. That's what my view is on it.
Jacket- I don't disagree although it does say individuals. I'm not here defending my team blindly on this one, I just don't see how they can cancel an entire team sport for a season. It was two individuals and they will be tried, not the entire team. That's what my view is on it.
powerofyellowandblack
Oh so very, very tired
Re: UW-Stout offseason thread
See: Lacrosse, Duke. That is how they can cancel an entire season.
See: Lacrosse, Duke. That is how they can cancel an entire season.
gojackets
New member
Re: UW-Stout offseason thread
I was saying that at that point in time, they said that individual players would be punished. I don't see anything in that statement from the chancellor that would lead them to scrapping the whole season. Unless say, they find the 10-12 players who were at the bar, blocking the exits and watching the victim get killed were somehow delinquent and suspended/expelled them...thus making it impossible for them to field a team.
Of course that statement was made a week and a half ago and things could change...but basing it off that bullet...I would think they weren't looking at cancelling the season. I also doubt the police investigation will be over by the time the season starts and if they are going to wait until that is finished to make a decision, how would that go?
I remember when the UWS brawl happened outside 3rd base, how horrible the police work was in that situation making the hockey players look like victims. I saw everything that happened, and it went nothing like what the police statement released was. I tried to talk to the cops that night about what I saw, and they would not talk to me or take my statement. I'm hoping that won't happen in this case.
I was saying that at that point in time, they said that individual players would be punished. I don't see anything in that statement from the chancellor that would lead them to scrapping the whole season. Unless say, they find the 10-12 players who were at the bar, blocking the exits and watching the victim get killed were somehow delinquent and suspended/expelled them...thus making it impossible for them to field a team.
Of course that statement was made a week and a half ago and things could change...but basing it off that bullet...I would think they weren't looking at cancelling the season. I also doubt the police investigation will be over by the time the season starts and if they are going to wait until that is finished to make a decision, how would that go?
I remember when the UWS brawl happened outside 3rd base, how horrible the police work was in that situation making the hockey players look like victims. I saw everything that happened, and it went nothing like what the police statement released was. I tried to talk to the cops that night about what I saw, and they would not talk to me or take my statement. I'm hoping that won't happen in this case.
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Re: UW-Stout offseason thread
See hockey, University of Vermont. When the hazing scandal hit, they thought they would issue rolling suspension for players involved beyond the instigators, when the found out how many were involved they pulled the plug on the season.
See hockey, University of Vermont. When the hazing scandal hit, they thought they would issue rolling suspension for players involved beyond the instigators, when the found out how many were involved they pulled the plug on the season.