UVM Catamounts 2019/20

[GreenCat]

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they should fire Sneddon after another pathetic performance! and what a jerk not taking out Lekkas!! really putting your NECK out for the team you jerk! someone pay for his surgery and recover time to not coach right now
Biggest embarrassment in college hockey!!

It is interesting why you wouldn't pull him after say goal 7. Is Harmon that incapable to play half a period and perhaps gain more experience for next season? Lekkas was also coming off two hard working performances in the C-Cup and perhaps could have used a breather. Not that it was his fault for most of the goals but there was no need to leave him in the whole game.

 

[J.D.]

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I can't imagine Sneddon gets another year, thoughts? I don't know what final record will look like but this looks like one of the worst teams in Hockey East history. Or at least recent history.

 

[UVM Cat in Texas]

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I can't imagine Sneddon gets another year, thoughts? I don't know what final record will look like but this looks like one of the worst teams in Hockey East history. Or at least recent history.

I can't imagine either, but it's UVM, so you never know. I don't know this for sure, having not lived in VT for quite a while now, but I kinda think UVM is still the type of school that fancies itself as an "elite" academic institute, at least among state universities. (I know, total BS, but whatever). In general, they don't fire coaches, or really even move on after a coaching contract expires. Jeff Schulman (the AD) is a relatively young guy and early on in his tenure, and I'm not sure he has the guts to not give Sneddon another chance. The easy move on his part would be to just use the usual excuses like "let's see what happens after renovations to The Gut are complete," etc. Frankly, I don't think anyone other than rabid fans (like the folks on here) would make much of a stink, or really care one way or the other. I've been tweeting at Schulman regularly this year to let Sneddon go and name an interim coach. Shockingly, there are people on Twitter who still defend Sneddon--i.e., "he's a great guy, does a lot for the community," etc. In my mind, I think the chances of Sneddon being gone after this season are about 40%. Maybe someone who hears the scuttlebutt around UVM/Vermont can weigh in on what their sense is.

 

[TovarishchLisa]

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It is interesting why you wouldn't pull him after say goal 7. Is Harmon that incapable to play half a period and perhaps gain more experience for next season? Lekkas was also coming off two hard working performances in the C-Cup and perhaps could have used a breather. Not that it was his fault for most of the goals but there was no need to leave him in the whole game.

Plus we may need to use him more next season given that we just lost one of our goalie commits to northeastern this week (Devon Levi)

 

[Catamount93]

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I'm honestly better with losing 8-3 than 3-0 every game. Watching virtually the same game over and over again was getting maddening. If we are going to lose every game, lets at least score a few goals.

 

[TovarishchLisa]

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I'm honestly better with losing 8-3 than 3-0 every game. Watching virtually the same game over and over again was getting maddening. If we are going to lose every game, lets at least score a few goals.

I agree, to be honest. The only crime worse than being bad is being bad *and* boring

 

[VTALUM]

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Did anyone else watch the BC game replays and notice the incredible d-zone coverage lapses? Full strength, man down...the guys are clearly lost. Coaches set up structure and systems...it’s beyond obvious the problem is at the top.

 

[j24vt]

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Harmon should dress as a defense man for the rest of the season.

 

[srsterrier]

Harmon should dress as a defense man for the rest of the season.

Ugh. Thought you guys had that one.

 

[UVM Cat in Texas]

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Harmon should dress as a defense man for the rest of the season.

Why, was he bad? Only saw about 10 mins of the 1st period.

 

[j24vt]

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Why, was he bad? Only saw about 10 mins of the 1st period.

Harmon played well - no worries for goalie next year. The defense in front of him not so much. Too many bad decisions that led to turnovers in the defensive zone. Coverage breakdowns, losing battles, afraid to engage,...

 

[UVM Cat in Texas]

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Harmon played well - no worries for goalie next year. The defense in front of him not so much. Too many bad decisions that led to turnovers in the defensive zone. Coverage breakdowns, losing battles, afraid to engage,...

Oh, I see. The usual stuff....

 

[pokecheckguy2]

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If Schulman were a smart man he would skip Dartmouth game and travel to Middlebury where #1 Trinity is playing and get the scout on Trinity coach who has national title win and brought that team up Dont think a coach of that level is probably best but he wins and more than UVM can say now I say no stone unturn!

 

[J.D.]

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Didn't Princeton go that route with their current coach? They won ECAC title a couple years ago.

 

[sk8tronthepond]

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Didn't Princeton go that route with their current coach? They won ECAC title a couple years ago.

Ya. It lasted one year!

 

[Charlie Catamount]

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Didn't Princeton go that route with their current coach? They won ECAC title a couple years ago.

Yeah and outside that Cinderella run through the ECAC tournament it's not been good for that coach Ron Fogarty. Wouldn't put it past UVM to explore D3 coaches because they have on others like the women's hockey coach. Only one I think worth considering is Ellsworth at Norwich though because he has years of D1 experience as an assistant and that was within this decade at a fellow league team that has been highly successful. I think some of these D3 guys could coach at a higher level and do well because coaching is coaching but recruiting and relationships are way different at that level. I do think UVM is going to have to lean on someone with a coaching and development background over being a master recruiter. Certainly need an upgrade in the talent but it's really about taking that talent and guiding it to improve individually and as a team year over year. You get someone who is trusted with the development of a draft pick or can turn undrafted kids into free agent prospects for the next level along with being able to get this team back to competing in the top 6 every year. Somewhere along the way Sneddon stopped doing or the truth caught up to him.

 

[TovarishchLisa]

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For the record, my ideal new HC that replaces Sneddon is Ben Barr at UMass. Good recruiter, works with defenders (Which is good for this group as IMO the guy with the most college potential on this team is a defender), success as an assistant basically everywhere he went.

 

[jcarter7669]

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I don't see how Schulman can resign Sneddon. New rink, close relationships, the propensity for keeping coaches... all that is meaningless when the rink is half full. Losing $15K-20K / game because you can't get fans to come watch the train wreck that is occurring is speaking a different language than previously. Before they still had a wait list to rely on to sell tickets, but Sneddon's burned through that. You can't extend a contract to a coach who is losing more than his contracts even worth.

 

[UVM Cat in Texas]

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I don't see how Schulman can resign Sneddon. New rink, close relationships, the propensity for keeping coaches... all that is meaningless when the rink is half full. Losing $15K-20K / game because you can't get fans to come watch the train wreck that is occurring is speaking a different language than previously. Before they still had a wait list to rely on to sell tickets, but Sneddon's burned through that. You can't extend a contract to a coach who is losing more than his contracts even worth.

Totally agree. Let's just hope Schulman sees it that way. I still don't think it's a lock though.

 

[SoucyWasNoSieve]

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New to the comments, but have greatly enjoyed the thread despite the way Sneddon has dragged down the program. Saw this as a student when Gilligan was kept on despite the mess. As amazing as UVM has been recruiting goalies over the years, it would seem that coaching has gone the opposite direction. As a previous post stated Ducharme would have been amazing. It seems things are so bad that St. Louis's kid is going to attend a different HE school too.