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UVM 2015-2016 The New Season

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I figured it was money driven. I just don't know why they keep choosing teams that play such a different style of hockey. Cross checking and hits after the whistle and such. I miss the Green and Gold games. But alas, UVM wasn't making any money on those games.
 
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The other part of it is UVM doesn't even fair well against them. They are now 6-4 in preseason exhibition games (1 loss was against the U-18) and have lost 4 of the last 7. So they basically start he season with a demoralizing loss against a Canadian College team full of the Hanson Bros.

How about some AHL teams at the very least?
 
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The other part of it is UVM doesn't even fair well against them. They are now 6-4 in preseason exhibition games (1 loss was against the U-18) and have lost 4 of the last 7. So they basically start he season with a demoralizing loss against a Canadian College team full of the Hanson Bros.

How about some AHL teams at the very least?

you either get a team like that which will give a challenge or beat you or you get the royal military guys from last year and win 8-0 and really AHL teams? clearly you know that is illegal they are pros come on amaturs can't play pros. truth is UVM doesnt care what any of us think and want the $25 bucks at least it is just one game remember them doing 2 of these 2 years ago and Reynolds getting out for year but could always be the basketball team scheduling 3 games agianst not D1 competition this year at home pathetic.
I would rather play a d3 locally later in the season like Norwich or Midd maybe even Castleton but UVM probably think it interrupts the season and since d3s dont start til later we won't see them here in October. also UVM doesn't want the nightmare of losing to any of them doubt it would happen now but those 6-win teams it was a strong possibility and UVM wants to make everyone believe no other school in state plays any kind of sports are are good at it on any level.
Also that article on the arena sounds like all the statements theyve made in the past it is part of the plan but how much money is dedicated to it and how much is raise Sullivan leaves it very vague we will see.
I too suspect a possible 0-5 start but to me this seems like bridge year they'll be fine by the end of the year but perhaps build toward true competitiveness next season.
 
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you either get a team like that which will give a challenge or beat you or you get the royal military guys from last year and win 8-0 and really AHL teams? clearly you know that is illegal they are pros come on amaturs can't play pros. truth is UVM doesnt care what any of us think and want the $25 bucks at least it is just one game remember them doing 2 of these 2 years ago and Reynolds getting out for year but could always be the basketball team scheduling 3 games agianst not D1 competition this year at home pathetic.
I would rather play a d3 locally later in the season like Norwich or Midd maybe even Castleton but UVM probably think it interrupts the season and since d3s dont start til later we won't see them here in October. also UVM doesn't want the nightmare of losing to any of them doubt it would happen now but those 6-win teams it was a strong possibility and UVM wants to make everyone believe no other school in state plays any kind of sports are are good at it on any level.
Also that article on the arena sounds like all the statements theyve made in the past it is part of the plan but how much money is dedicated to it and how much is raise Sullivan leaves it very vague we will see.
I too suspect a possible 0-5 start but to me this seems like bridge year they'll be fine by the end of the year but perhaps build toward true competitiveness next season.

Some random thoughts from watching the exhibition game and reading all your posts:

1) I think it is good to play an exhibition game against a good team, no matter where it comes from. I wish the NCAA teams were able to play 2 or 3 exhibition games. As for the Canadian teams being rough, you have to realize that the NCAA Division 1 is candy *** compared to pro, Major and Tier 2 level hockey in Canada and even the USHL. Plays that would be never called in those other leagues seem to be a penalty to these maternal NCAA referees. I don't want anyone to get hurt but learning to keep your head up is not a bad thing.

2) From the few shifts that Coughlin and Bowen got, it appears that we are getting some aggressiveness that is backed up by size, which is a good thing. It remains to be seen as to how long it will take them to catch up to the speed of the games but when they do, I think we are going to see a power forward game that was absent last year. O'Neil has the ability to do this as well but didn't show it on Sunday. Puffer is a smaller player but looks like he reads the ice well and may be a distributor of the puck.

3) On defence, only Pattyn and Abramson consistently looked like the other team was not going to be able to score. Those two control the boards, especially Abramson and that was good to see. Privittera and Phillips played well but have limitations in the defensive zone. Too bad as the coaches this year and last year seem to think that Privittera is all world, and he is not remotely that. He is an awkward skater, is small and has no shot, but has good hockey sense and heart. Hamilton looks to see a lot of ice and he scares me every time he is on the ice. So does Muscoby. Ferguson looked ok but not physical. The two new guys had better be better then they were last night. Lee is hyped as a puck moving D. The puck should move to his own team. I was also shocked at how slow he was. Not good for a puck moving D. Kearley had moments but seemed to trip over his own two feet on more then one occasion. Bottom line is that as much as the coaches talk about the new depth on defence, Abramson and Pattyn better kill most of the penalties and Pattyn, Abramson, Privittera and Phillips better log most of the ice. This won't happen though as they seem to be infatuated with Hamilton and overrate Privittera on defence. On the PP, they had Hamilton, Privittera, Lee and Phillips as the two d pair. Great, except not one of those guys can break an egg with their shot. Abramson has the hardest shot on the team and Pattyn's isn't bad either. Why are they on the bench during the pp? Kearley might have a big shot as well. Watching the smurf d work it around trying to get it close enough that they can get it all the way to the net in the air was a bit frustrating. Of course, this was an exhibition game so who knows.
 
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AHL teams? clearly you know that is illegal they are pros come on amaturs can't play pros.

Illegal? It happens all the time in baseball? In fact the Univeristy of Tampa just beat the Phillies this past spring. Moreover The Portland Pirates just played University of New Brunswick prior to the UNB v. BC game. UNB being amateurs... no?

I would rather play a d3 locally later in the season like Norwich or Midd maybe even Castleton but UVM probably think it interrupts the season and since d3s dont start til later we won't see them here in October.


I agree. And actually UVM has played mid season games before against the U-18 teams. I'd actually prefer the holiday tourney consisted of Norwich Middlebury and PSU every year. Pick up a non-conference series in one of the off weeks.


Also that article on the arena sounds like all the statements theyve made in the past it is part of the plan but how much money is dedicated to it and how much is raise Sullivan leaves it very vague we will see.


??? Really??? I think it was pretty clear, they've raised 250M of 500M they planned on raising and expect to complete all of the fundraising by 2019. I think that's new information? Vague yes in that we don't know how much of the 500M is for the arena and only that once the arena money is raised construction will start... ergo by 2019 at the least. That' is the first definitive timeline I've seen and the first time I've seen where there is a definitive we are building a new arena.
 
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Illegal? It happens all the time in baseball? In fact the Univeristy of Tampa just beat the Phillies this past spring. Moreover The Portland Pirates just played University of New Brunswick prior to the UNB v. BC game. UNB being amateurs... no?




I agree. And actually UVM has played mid season games before against the U-18 teams. I'd actually prefer the holiday tourney consisted of Norwich Middlebury and PSU every year. Pick up a non-conference series in one of the off weeks.





??? Really??? I think it was pretty clear, they've raised 250M of 500M they planned on raising and expect to complete all of the fundraising by 2019. I think that's new information? Vague yes in that we don't know how much of the 500M is for the arena and only that once the arena money is raised construction will start... ergo by 2019 at the least. That' is the first definitive timeline I've seen and the first time I've seen where there is a definitive we are building a new arena.

yeah and baseball is a different sport from hockey and rules for different NCAA sports apply. you don't see the basketball teams playing the Maine Red Claws in the DLeague do you? How you don't know that New Brunswick is not govern by NCAA and are govern by Canada where eligibility rules are different so they can play AHL teams and a NCAA team cannot. pretty simple.
And yes of that money what is going to arena, what is raised by arena? You know UVM has single person in charge of raising funds for arena in this project and Sullivan says it is depending on funds when project gets started so it still about UVM reaching its goals and we have no number on how much funds been raised specific to arena and what is to say the goal is not met for the arena specifically by 2019? All I said is nothing we havent heard from the school before so pardon me for not being gung ho ready to go.
 
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yeah and baseball is a different sport from hockey and rules for different NCAA sports apply. you don't see the basketball teams playing the Maine Red Claws in the DLeague do you?

NCAA teams have played the harlem globetrotters, a clearly non amateur team. And college players have also played against professional players in Football. I will start reading through the NCAA hockey rule book unless you know the particular rule already.
 
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2.) They can charge people. By having an actual opponent, all season ticket holders cough up $25. Attendance was just under 3300, so by scheduling the game as opposed to not (which some schools do) UVM took in $82,000.[/QUOTE]

Just a small correction, the tickets are $23 for reserved seats and not all 3300 are reserved tickets. In any case they get the money for all the season tickets regardless of whether the seat is filled.
 
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2.) They can charge people. By having an actual opponent, all season ticket holders cough up $25. Attendance was just under 3300, so by scheduling the game as opposed to not (which some schools do) UVM took in $82,000.

Just a small correction, the tickets are $23 for reserved seats and not all 3300 are reserved tickets. In any case they get the money for all the season tickets regardless of whether the seat is filled.[/QUOTE]

You are correct, some of those 3300 were student tickets which are free to students. I'm not exactly sure how many but if we say the student section is 4 of 28 or 1/7 then there were ~2830 paying customers, meaning UVM pulled in $65,000 instead of $0.
 
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NCAA teams have played the harlem globetrotters, a clearly non amateur team. And college players have also played against professional players in Football. I will start reading through the NCAA hockey rule book unless you know the particular rule already.

last time that happened was over 10 years ago that has been banned NCAA basketball teams do not play non college teams http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=1862595
give real example of college teams playing against professional teams in football.
Only example is baseball and it seems that it has been allowed for many years.
You can try and find some official rule but I am right and can save you the time and tell you no NCAA hockey team on any level can play any hockey team that provide payment to players of any kind. That mean AHL ECHL OHL QMJHL WHL etc.
It is okay to be wrong jcarter.
 
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You can try and find some official rule but I am right and can save you the time and tell you no NCAA hockey team on any level can play any hockey team that provide payment to players of any kind. That mean AHL ECHL OHL QMJHL WHL etc.
It is okay to be wrong jcarter.

Ok I'll just take your word for it...:rolleyes:
 
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Very strange game Sunday First seeing only 9 forwards in warmups was a warning. The rest joined mid second period and didnt get
any warm up which cant be easy for a group of mostly freshman to have to jump in mid period in their first game at the gut.

Powerplay got alot of work but it appeared he was just running lines for the 5 on 4's, but I do hope Mario stays on the top of any future
5 on 3's as he is the best shooter and will not only make good shots but teams will have to play him opening up everyone else.

Loved the Bookend line (J.Priv and the 2 big frosh) also liked Turk's line which seemed to be the most game ready after the first line of course.

Santa didn't get much work 5 on 5 but was not good to see the same guy beat him with the same move twice.

The hardest part of these Canadian team games is they come in with much more game and practice time under their belt while the Cats
are just getting started.

Sneddon will have a tough time picking only 12 forwards for Minn while the top 6 D seems more set.
 
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Hendrickson picks us 8th in the standings while Connelly has UVM at 5th.
No surprise there. Connelly typically shows us some love, while Hendrickson is generally a non-believer. Even so, I think 5th may be a little generous. Was thinking more like 6th myself. Looking forward to the game this weekend and wish it was televised on a channel I get. Would like to see the Cats at least 2-3 after the first 5 games.
 
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Loved the Bookend line (J.Priv and the 2 big frosh) also liked Turk's line which seemed to be the most game ready after the first line of course.

Sneddon will have a tough time picking only 12 forwards for Minn while the top 6 D seems more set.


Obviously a lot will depend on practice this week, for the exhibition Sneddon doesn't really have much to go off from.

That said I think the forward lines will look quite similar to the exhibition game. I'd like to see something along the lines of

Shaw - Bradley - Puskarich
Coughlin - J. Priv - Bowen
Player X - Player Y - Irwin
Forgionne - Turk - Petruzzelli

Pattyn - Lee
Abramson - Phillips
A. Priv - Kearley

Santa
With Oneil, Puffer, Darrar, and Stenerson being interchangeable as X and Y.
 
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Five former Catamounts have made opening day rosters for NHL teams.

Kevan Miller - Boston Bruins
Patrick Sharp - Dallas Stars
Conner Brickley - Florida Panthers
Torrey Mitchell - Montreal Canadians
Viktor Stalberg - New York Rangers

Glad to see more alumni get their shots. It would be nice to see McCarthy be reunited with Stalberg in the near future. I'd expect to see Paliotta make an appearance before the year is out as well.
 
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Obviously a lot will depend on practice this week, for the exhibition Sneddon doesn't really have much to go off from.

That said I think the forward lines will look quite similar to the exhibition game. I'd like to see something along the lines of

Shaw - Bradley - Puskarich
Coughlin - J. Priv - Bowen
Player X - Player Y - Irwin
Forgionne - Turk - Petruzzelli

Pattyn - Lee
Abramson - Phillips
A. Priv - Kearley

Santa
With Oneil, Puffer, Darrar, and Stenerson being interchangeable as X and Y.

I think your forward lines look good with O'Neill and Puffer being the X and Y although I still believe that Darrar has some upside.
On D, there is no way Sneddon doesn't play Hamilton. One of Kearley and Lee will have to go and since they seem to love Lee, slow as he is for a skill guy, it may be Kearley.
 
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I think the D pairs for the start of the season will be

A. Priv - Hamilton
Pattyn - Kearley
Abramson - Phillips

Maybe swap Privatera and Phillips...
 
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I think the D pairs for the start of the season will be

A. Priv - Hamilton
Pattyn - Kearley
Abramson - Phillips

Maybe swap Privatera and Phillips...

I agree with the swap as Abramson can make up for Privittera's defensive shortcomings and lack of speed and think that on the Olympic ice he may opt for Ferguson or Lee over Kearley.
 
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