I think this whole “perennial national contender” argument is crazy. First off, it is completely arbitrary, and there is nothing that distinguishes a “perennial national contender” other than your agenda against Utica. It could very well be a team that is consistently ranked top 10 year after year. You are comparing a 20 year old program to legendary D3 programs. Let me know when you want to get off your high horse, Russell.
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I think this whole “perennial national contender” argument is crazy. First off, it is completely arbitrary, and there is nothing that distinguishes a “perennial national contender” other than your agenda against Utica. It could very well be a team that is consistently ranked top 10 year after year. You are comparing a 20 year old program to legendary D3 programs. Let me know when you want to get off your high horse, Russell.
Russell Jaslow
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Umm, I hate to break it to you, but it's Fishman who claimed that. None of us cared in the first place. And then he wouldn't answer the question to back it up. Many of us are sick and tired of the Utica Perennials fans completely unwarranted and unearned attitude.
I have no horse to ride on, high or low. Hell, my alma mater sucks. It's you Utica Perennials fans who have this ridiculous overrated high horse your riding.
Here's a suggestion -- get out of the worst conference in D3 hockey and play some nonconference games on the road. Maybe then you'll be battle tested for the time of the year when it really matters instead of some overrated big mouth chokers.
And there it is, Utica fans.... this is how the rest of the country see you. You won't play good teams (or this year any team) on the road unless your conference demands it.
How old do you think Adrian's program is? They have "perennial national contender" status.
Why do you care so much that we cheer for our team on our own thread? It's you guys that find the need to hijack it for some reason.
We can't choose what conference were in unfortunately. Everyone realizes its a layup league - and will probably be WORSE next year since Wilkes graduates their entire team. But Utica does play Adrian every year and the site alternates every year. They also host a Thanksgiving tournament every year that further takes away from NC opportunities.
You talk a lot of smack for being a "USCHO columnist" - you should call one of the UC players or Mr Heenan a mouth choker to their face, not behind a computer. I would bet a tournament bid for the next 10 years that you wouldn't.
They were a late starter in ‘07 I believe.
They are working on getting out of the worst conference in D3 unfortunately its only to get into the worst conference in D1, sorry just had to stir up some trouble but if any one wants to put some money on the dates of the athletics transition announcement I would like the graduation weekend square.
I am not going to disagree, smucks like Fishnutz make Utica Fans look dumb but remember there are some of us who know hockey for example as a die hard UC guy I can still appreciate the defensive hockey clinic UNE put on (perfect balance of clogging the middle and still giving your goalie a good view of the puck). Am I disappointed yes but I can recognize when we were not the best team on the ice. Yes they need to play some tougher games especially in that slot before the end of season conference game push because as the old saying goes iron sharpens iron and anyone who has ever played a sport knows the only way to win big games is play big games. On the plus side we should have a lot of guys back next year and if they really are gamers they will all remember that loss.
Yep. That illustrates my point.
+1 ( on the game summary at least)
Russell Jaslow
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Heenan and I get along just fine, thank you very much.
And yes, I will give Utica some credit for some of the nonconference games they line up, and I always like a school that takes the effort to organize a good tournament every year. But Utica needs to be more battle tested.
P.S. I'm brave enough to talk smack under my real name. Why don't you show the balls to do the same before you challenge me to say something to Heenan's face?
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Care to read? He compared them to SNC, Norwich, and Stevens Point. No mention of Adrian, who you have been quoted on here saying is not a perennial national contender either.
Russell Jaslow
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Yeah, this it like the "U. of Illinois is going to create a varsity hockey program" shtick.
Who's going to win this turtle race?I said they were on the border. They have graduated in the weeks since. I think you are the one proving a lack of comprehension skills.
Thank you for a cogent post. Had Fishgutz responded this way none of this bickering would have ever started. Then again I assume you aren't a raging narcissist like he is.
Yeah, this it like the "U. of Illinois is going to create a varsity hockey program" shtick.
I'm pretty sure at the last NCAA convention they did lift the ban on D3s playing D1 in some sports. I will be not surprised by this announcement.
Russell Jaslow
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They did not. (And if I'm wrong, I guess I'll be eating crow.)
Utica would have to go D2 as a school, at the very least.
I'm fairly certain it did pass, and in a landslide. But I suppose I could be wrong also.
Which has already been confirmed. Ask around.........
Russell Jaslow
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I think you're confused.
What passed in a landslide was legislation to allow those few D3 schools which had a D1 play up (five all together, including RIT and Union hockey) and who missed the last grandfathering period to now be allowed to offer scholarships for those D1 teams. That's it. And the reason that was done was because there was never, ever going to be anymore play ups allowed. So, they could finally close the book on that issue.