Ahh, quantity over quality? That goalie played very well, but that team did a good job of eliminating a ton of good scoring opportunities, turning them into easy saves. The shot total is also partly because one team decided to make their one goal stand up, and were successful. The skaters and the goalie were equally responsible for the win.
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Utica College: The gang's all here.
- Thread starter Fishman'81
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Has Utica ever lost a game that wasn’t “stolen”? Every time Utica loses or is in a close game the only thing you see on this board is that the goalilete stole the game. UNE’s goalie played great but that’s not the only reason they won that game. And I’d bet if you asked the coaches and players they’d say the same thing.
Let's not forget the following: the officials, the off-ice officials, the condition of the ice, the NCAA Committee, etc. Everything except what is seen in the mirror.
Let's not forget the following: the officials, the off-ice officials, the condition of the ice, the NCAA Committee, etc. Everything except what is seen in the mirror.
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/utica/portal.htm?eventId=689232&streamType=video
at 1:25:53
Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left...
What I see is an official right on the cage looking down the goal line emphatically waving it off. Those don't get missed.
But let's say he did miss it. What excuses does Utica have for not scoring the other 59:30 of the game? Oh that's right, silly me. Hot goalie.
Up next....we are about one day before "the better team didn't win.." spew from the Utica Perennials. Give it a rest already.
Going on a decade now without an Oswego SUNY championship. You have more to worry about than Utica
Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left...
What I see is an official right on the cage looking down the goal line emphatically waving it off. Those don't get missed.
But let's say he did miss it. What excuses does Utica have for not scoring the other 59:30 of the game? Oh that's right, silly me. Hot goalie.
They were very good. They had a plan to disrupt Utica's breakout. They had crisp passes. Perhaps they had a better...........
Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left...
What I see is an official right on the cage looking down the goal line emphatically waving it off. Those don't get missed.
But let's say he did miss it. What excuses does Utica have for not scoring the other 59:30 of the game? Oh that's right, silly me. Hot goalie.
I don’t think anyones doubting his call, he had a better view than anyone, Badger posted that to the response that the UNE goalie wasn’t standing on his head.
I don’t think anyones doubting his call, he had a better view than anyone, Badger posted that to the response that the UNE goalie wasn’t standing on his head.
Nope. I saw it go in (my line of sight was just about the same as the video, but I was 6 rows off the ice). I saw the official frantically waving it off. In the replay we see the puck in the goal. I don't see any interference. I see a blown call. That's all. Those things happen in hockey.
Going on a decade now without an Oswego SUNY championship. You have more to worry about than Utica
NCAA Tournament wins since 2013, which was Utica's first trip to the big dance:
SUNYAC Also-Ran Oswego: 5
Perennial National Contender Utica: 1
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Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Nope. I saw it go in (my line of sight was just about the same as the video, but I was 6 rows off the ice). I saw the official frantically waving it off. In the replay we see the puck in the goal. I don't see any interference. I see a blown call. That's all. Those things happen in hockey.
According to a woman I talked to who sat right behind the goal line, the puck was never covered, but it went in just after the unwarranted whistle anyway. I saw the same thing, but was on the other end of the rink.
It happens. D-3 refs blow calls all the time.
As far as the game as a whole went, Utica carried the play for the most part (39-16 SOG) but I have to admit that NEC made no obvious mistakes. Very well-coached by Kevin Swallow from start to finish. (And that GW shortie looked like a set give-and-go play. I have never seen such a thing before. UNE was better 4x5 than they were 5x5.)
NEC had a great game plan, and stuck with it. Genny better watch out. But Adrian is clearly the odds-on favorite.
PS: What about Miss Nubby and her Greenery? I forgot to check the scores.
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Ahh, quantity over quality? That goalie played very well, but that team did a good job of eliminating a ton of good scoring opportunities, turning them into easy saves. The shot total is also partly because one team decided to make their one goal stand up, and were successful. The skaters and the goalie were equally responsible for the win.
i'm curious. Did you see the game, or are you just trolling?
I'm convinced that it's the the latter.
Why on Earth are you offering an opinion?
You clearly didn't watch the game. Go pound sand.
Why oh why do you little embarrassments feel the need to opine on topics that you know nothing about?
As if NU was still alive. You silly little p***y.
Develop a hobby already. "Your" season was over weeks ago.
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i'm curious. Did you see the game, or are you just trolling?
I'm convinced that it's the the latter.
Why on Earth are you offering an opinion?
You clearly didn't watch the game. Go pound sand.
Why oh why do you little embarrassments feel the need to opine on topics that you know nothing about?
As if NU was still alive. You silly little p***y.
Develop a hobby already. "Your" season was over weeks ago.
Hitting the Kessler's pretty hard tonight I see.
Jerry can comment here if he wants to. It's an open forum.
I commented on the SNC game in the SNC thread already. I didn't go somewhere pouting for two days wishing I cheered for a perennial national contender, because I actually do cheer for a perennial national contender.
I did watch the game, the entire game. And I’ve seen enough great goaltending and defensive play to be able to comment, both regular season, conference playoffs, and NCAA playoffs (I suspect many,many more than you).i'm curious. Did you see the game, or are you just trolling?
I'm convinced that it's the the latter.
Why on Earth are you offering an opinion?
You clearly didn't watch the game. Go pound sand.
Why oh why do you little embarrassments feel the need to opine on topics that you know nothing about?
As if NU was still alive. You silly little p***y.
Develop a hobby already. "Your" season was over weeks ago.
I’d give the UNE goalie the number 1 star, but the TEAM and coach should get as much as he did.
Maybe you can explain why you go off into name-calling deranged rants?
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
According to a woman I talked to who sat right behind the goal line, the puck was never covered, but it went in just after the unwarranted whistle anyway. I saw the same thing, but was on the other end of the rink.
It happens. D-3 refs blow calls all the time.
As far as the game as a whole went, Utica carried the play for the most part (39-16 SOG) but I have to admit that NEC made no obvious mistakes. Very well-coached by Kevin Swallow from start to finish. (And that GW shortie looked like a set give-and-go play. I have never seen such a thing before. UNE was better 4x5 than they were 5x5.)
NEC had a great game plan, and stuck with it. Genny better watch out. But Adrian is clearly the odds-on favorite.
UNE and NEC are two different schools.
Geneseo knows full well how well coached UNE is. They will not be taking them lightly.
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
i'm curious. Did you see the game, or are you just trolling?
I'm convinced that it's the the latter.
Why on Earth are you offering an opinion?
You clearly didn't watch the game. Go pound sand.
Why oh why do you little embarrassments feel the need to opine on topics that you know nothing about?
As if NU was still alive. You silly little p***y.
Develop a hobby already. "Your" season was over weeks ago.
What in the world is wrong with you Fishman? You are seriously a mentally ill person.
Did you even read what jerry wrote? It was a very accurate quick analysis of the game. Not to mention, jerry writes some very good comments. Something I can't say about you lately. You've gone into a dark paranoid rabbit hole of mental insanity.
And I know you'll prove me right by going all out on me. I'm waiting...
What in the world is wrong with you Fishman? You are seriously a mentally ill person.
Did you even read what jerry wrote? It was a very accurate quick analysis of the game. Not to mention, jerry writes some very good comments. Something I can't say about you lately. You've gone into a dark paranoid rabbit hole of mental insanity.
And I know you'll prove me right by going all out on me. I'm waiting...
You can’t deny that you are all provoking him. He says some dumb stuff and at this point we all know to take what he says with a grain of salt. But sometimes I don’t blame him for lashing out. Most of the things you guys write are simply to try and get a rise out of Fishman. And its funny sometimes I will admit, but gets old. Its the same people too, shockingly from teams who are also eliminated but can’t help but live in the past.
You can’t deny that you are all provoking him. He says some dumb stuff and at this point we all know to take what he says with a grain of salt. But sometimes I don’t blame him for lashing out. Most of the things you guys write are simply to try and get a rise out of Fishman. And its funny sometimes I will admit, but gets old. Its the same people too, shockingly from teams who are also eliminated but can’t help but live in the past.
My issue with Fishman was questioning him on his assertion that Utica is a "perennial national contender," which was a legitimate question considering Utica has done virtually nothing on a national stage. He elected to not answer the question and responded with insults. I'm here to have a hockey discussion. If he wants to engage in something else, then the rest of us can oblige his narcissism.
Other teams performances have nothing to do with Utica and their one all-time win in the national tournament. Come to think of it, that matches the win total of "living in the past" St. Norbert in the 2022 tournament. You know, the tournament that Utica got zero wins in. But as you mentioned in an earlier post, the rest of us all want what Utica has. Personally I will take playing before smaller crowds in a community rink with bona fide national success over a quarter century than pratfalling on the few occasions we make the tournament.
My issue with Fishman was questioning him on his assertion that Utica is a "perennial national contender," which was a legitimate question considering Utica has done virtually nothing on a national stage. He elected to not answer the question and responded with insults. I'm here to have a hockey discussion. If he wants to engage in something else, then the rest of us can oblige his narcissism.
Other teams performances have nothing to do with Utica and their one all-time win in the national tournament. Come to think of it, that matches the win total of "living in the past" St. Norbert in the 2022 tournament. You know, the tournament that Utica got zero wins in. But as you mentioned in an earlier post, the rest of us all want what Utica has. Personally I will take playing before smaller crowds in a community rink with bona fide national success over a quarter century than pratfalling on the few occasions we make the tournament.
Utica Hockey has not been around for a quarter century. In the last two national tournaments they have been seeded #1 and #2. It would be silly to think they aren’t a program on the rise. They aren’t a perennial national contender because you are right, they haven’t accomplished anything when it really matters. But to insist they have not turned into one of the top teams in the country consistently over the past 5 years is a dumb assessment
Russell Jaslow
Registered User
Utica Hockey has not been around for a quarter century. In the last two national tournaments they have been seeded #1 and #2. It would be silly to think they aren’t a program on the rise. They aren’t a perennial national contender because you are right, they haven’t accomplished anything when it really matters. But to insist they have not turned into one of the top teams in the country consistently over the past 5 years is a dumb assessment
He never said they were not one of the top teams in the country. Once again, the deflection from his question. Not to mention, all you need to do is look at the past 10 years (don't worry about 25) and compare programs like SNC or Stevens Point or Norwich to Utica. Heck, compare Geneseo -- at least they made it to the semifinal four times in that span. Utica has won just one freaking NCAA playoff game. One!
Fishman was asked what makes Utica a perennial contender. He never answered.
Hint: Like you said, they are not.