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Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)
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LakerFan99
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Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)
Yet the NC$$ won't fly a D-3 team from NY to Wisconsin.
Yet the NC$$ won't fly a D-3 team from NY to Wisconsin.
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)
BTW, Salem State flew to Duluth in 2009.
For playoffs yes. For regular season, that's up the school(s). The Alaska (and UAH) teams subsidize the travel for anyone going there.Yet the NC$$ won't fly a D-3 team from NY to Wisconsin.
BTW, Salem State flew to Duluth in 2009.
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)
Good thing, if you're talking about W-EC, though... They woulda whupped us even worse there than they did in Placid.
Yet the NC$$ won't fly a D-3 team from NY to Wisconsin.
Good thing, if you're talking about W-EC, though... They woulda whupped us even worse there than they did in Placid.
Pioneers#1
Just call me Pio#1....
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)
Anyone know how Heenan's interview(s) went?
Anyone know how Heenan's interview(s) went?
Check over on the D-I forum for reports. However, according to the twitterverse, UAA has put the process on hold to "reflect". All the candidates are still in the mix.
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)
I'd have to speculate that Corbett from Air Force would have the inside track. He's proven that he can make some noise at the D-1 level with his hands tied behind his back.
I'd have to speculate that Corbett from Air Force would have the inside track. He's proven that he can make some noise at the D-1 level with his hands tied behind his back.
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)
Don't know if you guys have been following the UAA thread, but it's worth a read just to see Heenan's meet-and-greet comments with the locals up there...
( And no, he hasn't learned much tact since he was released from Union after a few days.
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Don't know if you guys have been following the UAA thread, but it's worth a read just to see Heenan's meet-and-greet comments with the locals up there...
( And no, he hasn't learned much tact since he was released from Union after a few days.
)Pioneers#1
Just call me Pio#1....
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)
So Heenan probably isn't going to get the job at UAA... Now what?
I find hard to believe he can just come back and walk right through the doors as if nothing ever happened..
So Heenan probably isn't going to get the job at UAA... Now what?
I find hard to believe he can just come back and walk right through the doors as if nothing ever happened..
admiral0417
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Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)
He's a piece of work. That's all I'll say.
He's a piece of work. That's all I'll say.
bakdraft21
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Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)
aweckwaaaaaaaardSo Heenan probably isn't going to get the job at UAA... Now what?
I find hard to believe he can just come back and walk right through the doors as if nothing ever happened..
So Heenan probably isn't going to get the job at UAA... Now what?
I find hard to believe he can just come back and walk right through the doors as if nothing ever happened..
I don't think there's anything wrong with applying for jobs at higher levels, then returning to your current position.
I do think it's funny though that after Heenan's visit UAA basically decided to scrap their entire selection process and start over.
It's funny reading over in the UAA thread on this whole process. Obviously some of the Anchorage fans haven't been fortunate enough to see much NCAA hockey outside of the Seawolves. They sound pretty clueless when they talk about Utica's confernece basically being a club beer league. Little do they know UAA may very well have been fortunate to finish in the middle of the pack in the ECAC-W this last season.
Middle of the pack is generous for UAA
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)
The O-D published comments from the Utica AD at the time Heenan announced his interest in the UAA job. There was no apparent resentment on his part regarding Heenan seeking a higher (?) level of employment, nor should there be.
Ergo, I'll bet the farm that Heenan will be happily retained by UC if he wants to stay. (Hell, Utica took him back after he had officially been hired/fired by Union a few years back.)
So Heenan probably isn't going to get the job at UAA... Now what?
I find hard to believe he can just come back and walk right through the doors as if nothing ever happened..
The O-D published comments from the Utica AD at the time Heenan announced his interest in the UAA job. There was no apparent resentment on his part regarding Heenan seeking a higher (?) level of employment, nor should there be.
Ergo, I'll bet the farm that Heenan will be happily retained by UC if he wants to stay. (Hell, Utica took him back after he had officially been hired/fired by Union a few years back.)
PSUChamps2001
Member of the REAL Zoo Crew
Yes I think its a full year
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)
Happens all the time - probably more often than we know.
Some D III coaches are settled into their programs and have become fixtures. Others look at their current position as a stepping stone to a better job --> either at better funded DIII program or at a DI school.
When a better job opens up, they will apply and if they don't get it, they stick with the job they have. The same thing happens in other sports (and with faculty, too). That is the reality of employment in higher education. If you get an opportunity to move to a better position than the one you have, you investigate it. Nobody even blinks. What's different here is that the information is usually not so publicly known. I changed jobs a couple times before landing at Norwich, and I applied for other jobs and stayed where I was on more than one occasion, too.
So Heenan probably isn't going to get the job at UAA... Now what?
I find hard to believe he can just come back and walk right through the doors as if nothing ever happened..
Happens all the time - probably more often than we know.
Some D III coaches are settled into their programs and have become fixtures. Others look at their current position as a stepping stone to a better job --> either at better funded DIII program or at a DI school.
When a better job opens up, they will apply and if they don't get it, they stick with the job they have. The same thing happens in other sports (and with faculty, too). That is the reality of employment in higher education. If you get an opportunity to move to a better position than the one you have, you investigate it. Nobody even blinks. What's different here is that the information is usually not so publicly known. I changed jobs a couple times before landing at Norwich, and I applied for other jobs and stayed where I was on more than one occasion, too.
Fishman'81
Black Bear since D-2
Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)
I don't think there is a sit-out period for D-3 players moving to D-1 (or vice-versa) as long as there are no underlying academic issues... There are many instances of players going directly from D-1 to D-3 without any apparent delay, but I can't recall a single D-3 player ever being invited to make that move up.
In any case, UC doesn't have a top-line D-1 player on its roster right now anyway, IMO. Slowy, Educate and Gaffney could crack the line-up on lower-tier D-1 teams IMO, but none of them would do so at the better programs.
The bad D-1 teams and the good D-3 teams share a gray area in terms of talent, but make no mistake: there is not a lot of middle ground in that context.
If Heenan gets a D-1 job, I don't expect that he'll want to bring anyone along for the ride; that will not help him win at the next level.
I don't think there is a sit-out period for D-3 players moving to D-1 (or vice-versa) as long as there are no underlying academic issues... There are many instances of players going directly from D-1 to D-3 without any apparent delay, but I can't recall a single D-3 player ever being invited to make that move up.
In any case, UC doesn't have a top-line D-1 player on its roster right now anyway, IMO. Slowy, Educate and Gaffney could crack the line-up on lower-tier D-1 teams IMO, but none of them would do so at the better programs.
The bad D-1 teams and the good D-3 teams share a gray area in terms of talent, but make no mistake: there is not a lot of middle ground in that context.
If Heenan gets a D-1 job, I don't expect that he'll want to bring anyone along for the ride; that will not help him win at the next level.
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Re: Utica College Pioneers 2012-13 Season (Part Two)
From D1 to D3, you don't need to sit and can play immediately.
From D3 to D1, you do in fact have to wait one year (or maybe it's one semester?) to become eligible to play.
I think the idea is that the NCAA doesn't really want kids transferring schools only for athletic reasons. Which is ironic because in most cases, the kids who move down to D3 from D1 are doing so to hopefully see an increase in their playing time.
From D1 to D3, you don't need to sit and can play immediately.
From D3 to D1, you do in fact have to wait one year (or maybe it's one semester?) to become eligible to play.
I think the idea is that the NCAA doesn't really want kids transferring schools only for athletic reasons. Which is ironic because in most cases, the kids who move down to D3 from D1 are doing so to hopefully see an increase in their playing time.