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USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

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EDM is wonderful and likely responsible for me getting laid more than a few times.

Also Sandstorm.
 
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EDM is wonderful and likely responsible for me getting laid more than a few times.

Also Sandstorm.

Sandstorm rules. I have a remix that blends Sandstorm/Zombie Nation/Blood Is Pumpin' (the last one is from Blade II, the techno club scene). It's friggin' awesome, and about 20 minutes long.

That being said, Skrillex and his dubstep counterparts can eat a dcik.
 
But disco gave us rap so it gets a lifetime pass.

I'm not sure what EDM has given us except 20-somethings somehow even less interesting than other times' 20-somethings.

Rap predates disco. Disco gave us hair bands and eventually grunge.
 
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Source? Because this is the first I've heard of this connection.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop_music#Influence_of_disco

Hip hop music was both influenced by disco music, as disco also emphasized the key role of the DJ in creating tracks and mixes for dancers. As well, hip hop from the late 1970s used disco tracks as beats. At the same time, hip hop music was also a backlash against certain subgenres of late 1970s disco. While the early disco was African-American and Italian-American-created underground music developed by DJs and producers for the dance club subculture, by the late 1970s, disco airwaves were dominated by mainstream, expensively recorded music industry-produced disco songs. According to Kurtis Blow, the early days of hip hop were characterized by divisions between fans and detractors of disco music. Hip hop had largely emerged as "a direct response to the watered down, Europeanised, disco music that permeated the airwaves". The earliest hip hop was mainly based on hard funk loops sourced from vintage funk records. However, by 1979, disco instrumental loops/tracks had become the basis of much hip hop music. This genre was called "disco rap". Ironically, the rise of hip hop music also played a role in the eventual decline in disco's popularity.

The disco sound had a strong influence on early hip hop music. Most of the early rap/hip-hop songs were created by isolating existing disco bass-guitar bass lines and dubbing over them with MC rhymes. The Sugarhill Gang used Chic's "Good Times" as the foundation for their 1979 hit "Rapper's Delight", generally considered to be the song that first popularized rap music in the United States and around the world. In 1982, Afrika Bambaataa released the single "Planet Rock", which incorporated electronica elements from Kraftwerk's "Trans-Europe Express" and "Numbers" as well as YMO's "Riot in Lagos". The Planet Rock sound also spawned a hip-hop electronic dance trend, electro music, which included songs such as Planet Patrol's "Play at Your Own Risk" (1982), C Bank's "One More Shot" (1982), Cerrone's "Club Underworld" (1984), Shannon's "Let the Music Play" (1983), Freeez's "I.O.U." (1983), Midnight Star's "Freak-a-Zoid" (1983), Chaka Khan's "I Feel For You" (1984).

DJ Pete Jones, Eddie Cheeba, DJ Hollywood, and Love Bug Starski were disco-influenced hip hop DJs. Their styles differed from other hip hop musicians who focused on rapid-fire rhymes and more complex rhythmic schemes. Afrika Bambaataa, Paul Winley, Grandmaster Flash, and Bobby Robinson were all members of third s latter group. In Washington, D.C. go-go emerged as a reaction against disco and eventually incorporated characteristics of hip hop during the early 1980s. The DJ-based genre of electronic music behaved similarly, eventually evolving into underground styles known as house music in Chicago and techno in Detroit.
 
Re: USCHO Music Thread: We All Have A Crush On Shirley Manson

Somebody should mash up the music from "Hungry Like the Wolf" with the lyrics of "Head Like a Hole."
 
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Somebody should mash up the music from "Hungry Like the Wolf" with the lyrics of "Head Like a Hole."

One of my favorites is still the mashup of the music from "Smells Like Teen Spirit" with the lyrics from "Never Gonna Give You Up".
 
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The people who created rap say they drew inspiration from disco. I'm gonna go with them.

Those aren't the people that created rap. You could say those artists advanced it though and took influences from disco.
 
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Those aren't the people that created rap. You could say those artists advanced it though and took influences from disco.

You're just not correct. August 11, 1973, 1520 Sedgwick Avenue. DJ Herc is using the break from disco, R&B, and soul records and moving between turntables emulating a disco DJ. Hence his very stage name.

You're just not right on this. It's OK to be wrong.
 
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Two white guys, one from Long Island, the other from Minnesota, arguing over the origin of rap is wrong.

Wrong on so many levels.
 
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Two white guys, one from Long Island, the other from Minnesota, arguing over the origin of rap is wrong.

Wrong on so many levels.

Long Island? As in... Queensbridge?

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Wrong color, sure. But right place!
 
You're just not correct. August 11, 1973, 1520 Sedgwick Avenue. DJ Herc is using the break from disco, R&B, and soul records and moving between turntables emulating a disco DJ. Hence his very stage name.

You're just not right on this. It's OK to be wrong.

Settle down, Sparky. I could have sworn I read that the origins and foundational pieces predated even the 70's and if that's not correct than mea culpa.
 
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Settle down, Sparky. I could have sworn I read that the origins and foundational pieces predated even the 70's and if that's not correct than mea culpa.

Ah yes, the cutesy nickname for suppressing fire to cover withdrawal from an embarrassing situation. Little used these days but a mainstay of message boards in the 90's.

There are lots of vital breaks that came from the 60s, too (and then with later bands like Tribe the 50s). But this all started because somebody suggested disco was a blight on music without redemption, and the point is that disco was the main vein progenitor of rap and house and techno -- one of the most fecund music styles ever.

Ragtime sucked too, but it gave us jazz.
 
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The Three Kings used those forms of music to do what they did, which was just playing breaks and such. But rapping/MCing itself didn't come from disco, that came from rap.

There were also 2 distinctive crowds: the street rap, and the disco rap. The disco rap didn't really mesh with the street rap.

Netflix has an outstanding series "The Evolution Of Hip-Hop" that covers everything from the origins to (as of now) the Biggie/Tupac/ATL (Dirty South) era.
 
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