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US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II

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Rightnut said:
The NHL is currently negotiating with the IOC about NHL participation in future Olympics. Does anyone have any info on whether the NHL will use its leverage to protect the women's side from the possible Olympic chopping block? It seems that its something the NHL could/should do for the good of hockey in general but I have my doubts whether it would be that farsighted or philanthropic.
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I have been consistently disappointed in the amount of support the men's hockey world gives to the women's game. I compare it to basketball and want to cry. David Stern and the NBA clearly made the WNBA a priority in getting it going and in staying alive. Tom Izzo at Michigan State makes a point to include the women's team as a part of their Midnight Madness and he and other coaches help to promote women's basketball. I just don't see anything comparable in hockey.
 
Eeyore said:
I have been consistently disappointed in the amount of support the men's hockey world gives to the women's game. I compare it to basketball and want to cry. David Stern and the NBA clearly made the WNBA a priority in getting it going and in staying alive. Tom Izzo at Michigan State makes a point to include the women's team as a part of their Midnight Madness and he and other coaches help to promote women's basketball. I just don't see anything comparable in hockey.
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Not enough people play hockey compared to the numbers that play squeeky ball so not as many people watch or attend games. Where interest is limited revenue is limited. (Or maybe it is the other way around)
 
Re: US National Teams: U30s & Mrs. Potter, U22s, U18s Part II

Looks like a great facility. 2nd best location behind Minny of course! I think the team's trainer is out that way, can't recall his name.
 
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The one problem with the facility for this purpose is no Olympic-sized ice sheet.
 
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Back just before the '98 Olympics the Bruins had the women's national team signing autographs in the concourse between periods and being interviewed by the Bruins' announcers on TV. It generated some buzz among the fans that night. Not as much buzz as the subsequent Wheaties box, but a nice gesture nonetheless.

However, can anybody think of anything else the NHL or its teams have done for women's hockey since then?
 
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Watson Rink said:
However, can anybody think of anything else the NHL or its teams have done for women's hockey since then?
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Other than staging periodic strikes/lockouts so that hockey fans have no game to attend for months at a time? :mad:
 
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FiveHoleFrenzy said:
Looking at the list of 28 players announced yesterday that have been invited to the U.S. Women's National Team training camp, which takes place later in March, there is a curious omission. No Hannah Brandt. :confused:
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You know what, stuff like this bothers me, a ton. And I hate even posting this, for fear that someone will think I am pleased about this bs, but I am not, not in any way. The most talented and deserving players deserve to be able to play for their country when the opportunities to do so, at least as far as Olympic opportunities go, do not come around very often. So for someone as talented as Hannah to get left off the list is a mistake, imo. But, trying to see a silver lining in this, obviously for Gopher fans, but hopefully, maybe, for Hannah as well, if it ends up that she is not on that team, then maybe she'll show up next year in a Gopher's uniform and just dominate the season and lead the Gophers to another Natl Title, while being the #1 points leader, and winning the Patty K Award as well. None of which would probably make up for missing out on a chance to play for your country, but it would help. And maybe the coach that left her off the team will regret doing so. Maybe teams and players in college next year will also be a little ticked that she was left off the team. Hurts the US's chances of winning the Gold if you don't have all the best players on your team and it would hurt other teams in college hockey's chances of taking advantage of it being an Olympic year.


I don't know, as a Gopher fan, I'm probably very biased about this, but just thought I'd throw those thoughts out and see what others thought about the issue.
 
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Back2BackU-MnPride2002 said:
You know what, stuff like this bothers me, a ton. And I hate even posting this, for fear that someone will think I am pleased about this bs, but I am not, not in any way. The most talented and deserving players deserve to be able to play for their country when the opportunities to do so, at least as far as Olympic opportunities go, do not come around very often. So for someone as talented as Hannah to get left off the list is a mistake, imo. But, trying to see a silver lining in this, obviously for Gopher fans, but hopefully, maybe, for Hannah as well, if it ends up that she is not on that team, then maybe she'll show up next year in a Gopher's uniform and just dominate the season and lead the Gophers to another Natl Title, while being the #1 points leader, and winning the Patty K Award as well. None of which would probably make up for missing out on a chance to play for your country, but it would help. And maybe the coach that left her off the team will regret doing so. Maybe teams and players in college next year will also be a little ticked that she was left off the team. Hurts the US's chances of winning the Gold if you don't have all the best players on your team and it would hurt other teams in college hockey's chances of taking advantage of it being an Olympic year.


I don't know, as a Gopher fan, I'm probably very biased about this, but just thought I'd throw those thoughts out and see what others thought about the issue.
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Don't worry about gold, they have a girl born in 1997 to play Def, thus they will only need to score one goal!:rolleyes:
 
OnMAA said:
Me shed some light ?.....I don't know anything about this latest development, but it is a well known fact that Kelly has been snubbed several times in the past by the TC brass. She is native north american, and used to play for Northern Ontario in the aboriginal games. That means her family origin is from a reserve based in Northern Ontario. As a native North American, she can play/associate with either US or Canada. Ally Bero (former SLU player, and Native American) did something similar, playing for US U18 first and then switching to play for Team Ontario.

Personally, I hope she can make some inroads with this route. Great kid and fantastic hockey player.
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Babstock not on most recent Natl Team training camp roster announced yesterday, although was on the preliminary one in February. Any idea why?
 
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Back2BackU-MnPride2002 said:
You know what, stuff like this bothers me, a ton. And I hate even posting this, for fear that someone will think I am pleased about this bs, but I am not, not in any way. The most talented and deserving players deserve to be able to play for their country when the opportunities to do so, at least as far as Olympic opportunities go, do not come around very often. So for someone as talented as Hannah to get left off the list is a mistake, imo. But, trying to see a silver lining in this, obviously for Gopher fans, but hopefully, maybe, for Hannah as well, if it ends up that she is not on that team, then maybe she'll show up next year in a Gopher's uniform and just dominate the season and lead the Gophers to another Natl Title, while being the #1 points leader, and winning the Patty K Award as well. None of which would probably make up for missing out on a chance to play for your country, but it would help. And maybe the coach that left her off the team will regret doing so. Maybe teams and players in college next year will also be a little ticked that she was left off the team. Hurts the US's chances of winning the Gold if you don't have all the best players on your team and it would hurt other teams in college hockey's chances of taking advantage of it being an Olympic year.

I don't know, as a Gopher fan, I'm probably very biased about this, but just thought I'd throw those thoughts out and see what others thought about the issue.
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I know Hannah and she is a great player! Sometime timing is everything? being a freshman with only one year of D1 play under her belt is a hard sell, especially since there doesn't seem to be a real legit way to tryout and no term limits. I would like to see a little more transparency regarding the selection process? maybe who are the top 50, why some made it and others didn't.

I feel like making the Olympic team is like going to Harvard, The hardest part is getting in!!!

Just my thoughts!
 
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Shotblocker said:
I know Hannah and she is a great player! Sometime timing is everything? being a freshman with only one year of D1 play under her belt is a hard sell, especially since there doesn't seem to be a real legit way to tryout and no term limits. I would like to see a little more transparency regarding the selection process? maybe who are the top 50, why some made it and others didn't.

I feel like making the Olympic team is like going to Harvard, The hardest part is getting in!!!

Just my thoughts!
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Ya...the freshman and sophomore from BC are seasoned vets:confused:...the only explanation that makes sense is that she got "Stoned":cool:
 
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Perhaps there are great reasons for the selections made by USA Hockey, but because those picking the rosters show no consistency, they wind up looking utterly clueless. Consider Brandt. She was not only on the camps roster a year ago when she was a HS senior, she made the roster for Worlds. This year, after a first year of college hockey that is beyond what most would have expected of her, she is deemed "too slow" and doesn't make the roster for the camp. Speed obviously isn't her greatest strength, but I doubt that she is slower now then she was then. The Lam's have never been left off a team, let alone out of a camp, and they certainly aren't burners either. I realize that is different because they put up offensive numbers ... oh, wait. :confused: So is it that USA Hockey can't evaluate a player's speed until they've played at Worlds? Are they looking for that next HS phenom so that they'll have something to market? Maybe the objective is just to lose gold medal games -- in that case, great job! I understand that it is possible she doesn't fit the style that they want to play, but in that case, why put her on the team a year ago and leave her off now that she is a better player.
 
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ARM said:
Perhaps there are great reasons for the selections made by USA Hockey, but because those picking the rosters show no consistency, they wind up looking utterly clueless. Consider Brandt. She was not only on the camps roster a year ago when she was a HS senior, she made the roster for Worlds. This year, after a first year of college hockey that is beyond what most would have expected of her, she is deemed "too slow" and doesn't make the roster for the camp. Speed obviously isn't her greatest strength, but I doubt that she is slower now then she was then. The Lam's have never been left off a team, let alone out of a camp, and they certainly aren't burners either. I realize that is different because they put up offensive numbers ... oh, wait. :confused: So is it that USA Hockey can't evaluate a player's speed until they've played at Worlds? Are they looking for that next HS phenom so that they'll have something to market? Maybe the objective is just to lose gold medal games -- in that case, great job! I understand that it is possible she doesn't fit the style that they want to play, but in that case, why put her on the team a year ago and leave her off now that she is a better player.
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I'm sure the USA hockey brass will be in the stands today with pen and paper in hand, watching the HtH match-ups today between the three young stars being discussed. I'm sure that adds to the motivation. I'm also sure that the roster for the Olympic squad is not locked in yet.
 
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OnMAA said:
I'm sure the USA hockey brass will be in the stands today with pen and paper in hand, watching the HtH match-ups today between the three young stars being discussed. I'm sure that adds to the motivation. I'm also sure that the roster for the Olympic squad is not locked in yet.
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I will bet you it is 98% locked in. There are some player who will be left out due to politics as usual. Not always the best players make the team.
 
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sharkie said:
I will bet you it is 98% locked in. There are some player who will be left out due to politics as usual. Not always the best players make the team.
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If memory serves me correctly, in years past they would announce the final team in December preceeding the Olympics.
A lot can happen between now and sometime next December, injuries, someone not in proper form during camps etc.

I'm sure that the core team has been identified, but I would think and hope that the selectors are smart enough to leave those last few Forward and D spots open until later on this year.

Not sure how the US selection system works, but Canada will centralize about 26-28 players, and out of that they will pick the final roster of 23. (I might be off by one or two in the actual numbers, but you get my drift).
 
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Well, had Herb Brooks not been left off of the 1960 US Olympic team, maybe we never would have gotten a 1980 Olympic Miracle on Ice?! The snub motivated him for years.


You'd almost think that the Eastern influences out there would want Brandt to be OFF the Gopher's 2014 roster. We came pretty close to pulling off a 3 peat back in 2006. So we don't always suck in Olympic years.
 
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sharkie said:
I will bet you it is 98% locked in. There are some player who will be left out due to politics as usual. Not always the best players make the team.
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Does anybody want to do a best guess on who will be on the 2014 team? It seems like the ones that are "locked" (or at least have been consistently on the US roster) are the ones that are out of college/going to be graduating this spring and the ones that are still in college next year have been on and off rosters, i.e. Hannah Brandt, Lee Stecklein, etc.
 
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