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US Foreign Policy: The Wogs Begin at Calais

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This woman may be just another ferkokta mishegas balebosta, but she's also something I didn't think we'd ever see. An attractive Israeli woman.

Abi gezunt, Tzipi. Dos leben ken men zikh ale mol neme.
 
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...but she's also something I didn't think we'd ever see. An attractive Israeli woman.

Abi gezunt, Tzipi. Dos leben ken men zikh ale mol neme.

Have you been to Israel? It's not the weather that's hot.
 
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Have you been to Israel? It's not the weather that's hot.

They've got a lot of those boobs on a stick models that leave me stone cold. The crazy Zionist chick is nerd cute -- the only cute that counts.
 
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Whoops, apocalypse.

The Turkish military has reportedly shot down a Russian military aircraft on the border with Syria.

Russia's defence ministry said an Su-24 had crashed on Syrian territory after being hit by fire from the ground, and that its pilots had managed to eject.
But Turkish military officials said Turkish F-16s had shot down the plane after repeatedly warning its pilots they were violating Turkish airspace.
 
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Yeah. If you see the radar path turkey released, I think it shows they ****ed up royally. It barely tickled the taint of Turkish airspace.
 
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Vlad is taking it well.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has bitterly condemned the downing of a Russian jet on the Turkey-Syria border.
He described it as a "stab in the back" committed by "accomplices of terrorists".

Turkey says its jets shot at the plane after warning that it was violating Turkish airspace. But Moscow says it never strayed from Syrian airspace. Nato is to hold an extraordinary meeting to discuss the incident at Turkey's request.

Mr Putin warned there would be "serious consequences" for Moscow's relations with Turkey.
 
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Smile politely, nod your head in respect, open the door, step out, do a nice little wave goodbye, close the door, and run like hell.
 
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By 'there will be serious consequences' from Turkey downing a Russian jet, that means...

Russia will reposition the incident away from Turkey and pin it on NATO. It is in Putin's best interest to have a stable border with Turkey...but have an ongoing 'cool' war with NATO with occasional crisis' to lock in his grand Russian plan.
 
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By 'there will be serious consequences' from Turkey downing a Russian jet, that means...

Russia will reposition the incident away from Turkey and pin it on NATO. It is in Putin's best interest to have a stable border with Turkey...but have an ongoing 'cool' war with NATO with occasional crisis' to lock in his grand Russian plan.

I think Putin's wrong if he thinks that. The ideal for Russia is probably to have stability along the European border as well. As long as the Near Abroad is scared of the bear they are going to gravitate to its adversaries. But in eastern Europe in particular there's a ton of resentment against the west, and if Putin would just cool his jets (literally!) a casual, comfortable environment would give him the trading partners and commercial markets necessary for him to keep the Russian economy going -- the only thing that will keep the population from looking to a different strongman.

On the other hand, I'm surprised Putin hasn't been playing games in the Caspian against the Iranians. He can ratchet up a Forever War of his own to justify authoritarian rule (and where have we seen that trick before?), sell arms to everybody in the region, and use the unrest to keep Ma and Pa чайник distracted from the high cost of vodka.
 
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I think Putin's wrong if he thinks that. The ideal for Russia is probably to have stability along the European border as well. As long as the Near Abroad is scared of the bear they are going to gravitate to its adversaries. But in eastern Europe in particular there's a ton of resentment against the west, and if Putin would just cool his jets (literally!) a casual, comfortable environment would give him the trading partners and commercial markets necessary for him to keep the Russian economy going -- the only thing that will keep the population from looking to a different strongman.

On the other hand, I'm surprised Putin hasn't been playing games in the Caspian against the Iranians. He can ratchet up a Forever War of his own to justify authoritarian rule (and where have we seen that trick before?), sell arms to everybody in the region, and use the unrest to keep Ma and Pa чайник distracted from the high cost of vodka.

He thinks that and he's wrong. The best interest of the Russian people is to engage and participate globally. That's not in Putin's best interest. His personal best interest is to keep relations in the best somewhere between cool and crisis. The Russian people are disgruntled with their plight (that includes geographic disadvantages) and Putin redirects that to the west. Similar to 9/11 and Iraq. It keeps him in demand...but it has nothing to do with the long term financial and personal wellbeing of Russians. My guess is that he'll pin the downing (as with many other challenges) strategically on NATO.
 
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It keeps him in demand...but it has nothing to do with the long term financial and personal wellbeing of Russians. My guess is that he'll pin the downing (as with many other challenges) strategically on NATO.

A decade ago NATO was all but disbanded with no mission and everybody was running from Neocon Amerika as the worst country on earth to be allied with. But Putin's playing around reminded the French and Germans why they made nice and reminded everybody in Europe why the US skirts were good to hide under.

Had Putin done nothing he'd have had the Russian Imperial sphere of influence all the way to the Vistula, and this time without a clunky ideology or expensive occupation troops. For a revanchist-nationalist, he really blew it.
 
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