US Foreign Policy 4.0: making the world safe to flee to if the MAGAts win here

[Kepler]

Some of you may find this of interest...

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/05...ashington-dc-is-the-war-capital-of-the-world/

Here’s the thing. The actual cost of the national security budget is $1.3 trillion per year. Yet if you allow an ample $250 billion per year for a Fortress America continental defense and $75 billion for the triad strategic deterrent, the question recurs. Where does all the rest—$975 billion—go?

 

[Russell Jaslow]

Some of you may find this of interest...

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/05/...-of-the-world/

There's a lot here I don't agree with (even though I would love to see the defense budget in our country greatly reduced, and I know the affect of that reduction would be minimal).

But I do want to bring up the nuclear weapon discussion he touched upon. He may be 100% correct in that there is no way we'll ever be "blackmailed" by some tinpot dictator in a faraway country. But that doesn't mean we won't feel the effect of a tinpot dictator using nuclear weapons in only his region of the world. Nuclear winter, or a less drama scenario nuclear fallout, can still affect us, even though we didn't experience anywhere near a direct strike. So yeah, we do have to get involved when tinpot dictators have this threat.

(There is also the argument of resources. Oil of course is the most controversial item people bring up. But just the idea that an overall worldwide healthy economy brings great advantages to our economy can lend ourselves to making sure worldwide flareups don't effect that.)

[As an aside, the most bizarre fact I got out of the article is that Thailand has an aircraft carrier. Like W-T-F? Thailand?! What purpose do they possibly need an aircraft carrier for?]

{Aside2 -- that website is quite the looney tune site.}

EDIT: I did some research into this. Thailand's aircraft carrier is quite small, the smallest in the world. In fact, the Royal Thai Navy refers to it as an "Offshore Patrol Helicopter Carrier." So, I don't know if you can even refer to this as an aircraft carrier as we know one to be. Especially since it doesn't appear to have any airplanes on it (though there is space for some). Also, there's this fact: "In 2021 it was reported that Chakri Naruebet usually spends only a day each month at sea, though it had recently sailed through the Singapore Strait. The ship is open to tourists when it is docked at its home port."

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

{Aside2 -- that website is quite the looney tune site.}

Lew Rockwell is in the same sphere of disinfo as InfoWars, but just a tad less tin foil-y and a little more paleo-con/TradCath.

 

[Kepler]

Lew Rockwell is in the same sphere of disinfo as InfoWars, but just a tad less tin foil-y and a little more paleo-con/TradCath.

When I read Lew, Jesus, thirty years ago, he was a Murray Rothbard small "l" libertarian who believed the kind of tripe the right used to about itself (small government, individual liberty, self-determination) before they were all exposed as fascist grifter weaklings.

 

[Kepler]

EDIT: I did some research into this. Thailand's aircraft carrier is quite small, the smallest in the world. In fact, the Royal Thai Navy refers to it as an "Offshore Patrol Helicopter Carrier." So, I don't know if you can even refer to this as an aircraft carrier as we know one to be. Especially since it doesn't appear to have any airplanes on it (though there is space for some). Also, there's this fact: "In 2021 it was reported that Chakri Naruebet usually spends only a day each month at sea, though it had recently sailed through the Singapore Strait. The ship is open to tourists when it is docked at its home port."

By that definition, the Coast Guard and the LAPD have "aircraft carriers."

 

[dxmnkd316]

Don't give the LAPD any ideas. Jesus

 

[Russell Jaslow]

By that definition, the Coast Guard and the LAPD have "aircraft carriers."

Technically, the Thai aircraft carrier does have space designed to handle airplanes (though, not many). That's the only difference I can see.

 

[Kepler]

Don't give the LAPD any ideas. Jesus

Fair point. I'm sure they're shopping the RTX Missiles and Defense site as we speak.

To serve and protect

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

FWIW, a middle-aged, white male coworker of mine is using LinkedIn to post/engage with 100% unabashedly pro-Palestine content. So it's not just the TikTok Zoomers who've fallen down the rabbit hole.

 

[Handyman]

Yeah LinkedIn is lousy with political talk...but to be fair it is also just lousy in general

 

[Kepler]

Well, he'll never work in pictures...

 

[Kepler]

Putin really f-cked up.

For two centuries, Sweden maintained a policy of military non-alignment, but it is now taking quick steps to move away from this historical position. In March, they became the newest member of NATO, and in December, they signed the Defense Cooperation Agreement (DCA) with the United States. On Tuesday, this agreement got the final green light from the Swedish parliament, the Riksdag.

Although US forces have participated in exercises on Swedish territory before, the agreement will now give US armed forces access to 17 Swedish military bases and training grounds across the country.

In addition, the US will have the right to deploy units, store military equipment, and carry out defense exercises in Sweden.

 

[Drew S.]

The other day driving to work I heard an ad for registering for the draft. I assume the government has everyone’s info so not sure how much of a need there truly is but very odd to hear it.

 

[walrus]

Being reported that US made ATACMS just killed some Russians on a beach in crimea, if true it ain’t going to be good.

 

[Handyman]

Why, it isn't a secret we are supplying them weapons and the deaths occurred because the missiles were shot down.

 

[bronconick]

Being reported that US made ATACMS just killed some Russians on a beach in crimea, if true it ain’t going to be good.

Vacationing in occupied territory near Russian military bases during a war sounds pretty fucking stupid to me, but to each their own.

 

[rufus]

So some Russians got killed in a war that their leader started?

I'm .......sorry???!!!!!

 

[walrus]

Why, it isn't a secret we are supplying them weapons and the deaths occurred because the missiles were shot down.

They don't go anywhere without US guidance(satellites) or US military plotting the course from what I understand.

 

[Kepler]

Being reported that US made ATACMS just killed some Russians on a beach in crimea, if true it ain’t going to be good.

Crimea. Ukrainian territory. Putin and the GOP can eat a bag.

This is more interesting:

Increased battlefield vulnerability of Orc positions post opening of invader space to non-ATACMS attacks.

Once we give the UA the right to drill the Orcs with ATACMS, that puts their bases in play, and you'll really hear Dump and the traitors squeal.

 

[Handyman]

They don't go anywhere without US guidance(satellites) or US military plotting the course from what I understand.

I'm still not seeing the issue...