What's new
By:
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

US Foreign Policy 3.0: We're The Mets of International Diplomacy

Status
Not open for further replies.
Re: US Foreign Policy 3.0: We're The Mets of International Diplomacy

Handyman said:
Right but what does that have to do with The Middle East? Those companies arent in Saudi Arabia.

The whole point is we can leave the Middle East tomorrow and it wouldnt hurt the US in any way. Those companies dont need the Middle East either.
Click to expand...

Those companies sell their supplies on the open market. A US* company has nothing to do with the citizens of the United States. Unless when you say "we" you mean Exxon. In that case, yes, "we" have energy independence.

I'm not sure if it's still true but there was a time when Alaskan oil went to Japan while we bought from the Middle East. Oil doesn't give a sh-t where it's from.

* And in any case these are multinationals.
 
Last edited:
Re: US Foreign Policy 3.0: We're The Mets of International Diplomacy

Handyman said:
Right but what does that have to do with The Middle East? Those companies arent in Saudi Arabia.

The whole point is we can leave the Middle East tomorrow and it wouldnt hurt the US in any way. Those companies dont need the Middle East either.
Click to expand...

any disruption, or threat of disruption, to oil supply in the middle east would absolutely harm the US consumers with respect to the price of oil. Oil is a global commodity.
 
Re: US Foreign Policy 3.0: We're The Mets of International Diplomacy

BassAle said:
any disruption, or threat of disruption, to oil supply in the middle east would absolutely harm the US consumers with respect to the price of oil. Oil is a global commodity.
Click to expand...

Was just going to say.
 
Re: US Foreign Policy 3.0: We're The Mets of International Diplomacy

Exactly. If Middle East exploded into active war such that their oil production was eliminated, the global price of oil would skyrocket. Under those conditions, I strongly doubt American oil companies would say, “well, we’re not affected, and it only costs us $35 per barrel in extraction cost, so out of the goodness of our hearts and our patriotism, we’re just going to keep selling to American consumers and businesses at $80 per barrel, even though we could get $200 per barrel in the foreign market.” Nope, not happening. Therefore, the only way to ensure that cheap gas is available in the US is to make sure that the taps keep flowing in the Middle East.
 
Re: US Foreign Policy 3.0: We're The Mets of International Diplomacy

LynahFan said:
Exactly. If Middle East exploded into active war such that their oil production was eliminated, the global price of oil would skyrocket. Under those conditions, I strongly doubt American oil companies would say, “well, we’re not affected, and it only costs us $35 per barrel in extraction cost, so out of the goodness of our hearts and our patriotism, we’re just going to keep selling to American consumers and businesses at $80 per barrel, even though we could get $200 per barrel in the foreign market.” Nope, not happening. Therefore, the only way to ensure that cheap gas is available in the US is to make sure that the taps keep flowing in the Middle East.
Click to expand...

Not to mention that keeping the region on the edge of war perpetually is lucrative for... other industries.

I SAID NOT TO MENTION IT DAMMIT!
 
Re: US Foreign Policy 3.0: We're The Mets of International Diplomacy

Thought this would be a good place to post this, cia Officer duan Clarridge on Allende. But really, his attitude was in line with the entire upper tier of cia re Latin America and the world:

https://youtu.be/SNgCyDsvi84
 
Re: US Foreign Policy 3.0: We're The Mets of International Diplomacy

Rut roh.

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkey could shut down its Incirlik air base, which hosts U.S. nuclear warheads, in response to threats of U.S. sanctions and a separate U.S. Senate resolution that recognized mass killings of Armenians a century ago as genocide, President Tayyip Erdogan said on Sunday.

“If it is necessary for us to take such a step, of course we have the authority ... If this is necessary, together with our delegations, we will close down Incirlik if necessary,” Erdogan said on A Haber TV.

Turkey can also close down the Kurecik radar base if necessary, he added. “If they are threatening us with the implementation of these sanctions, of course we will be retaliating,” he said.

Turkey condemned the U.S. Senate measure last week. Erdogan suggested on Sunday that Turkey could also respond with parliamentary resolutions recognizing the killings of indigenous Americans in past centuries as genocide.
Click to expand...
 
Re: US Foreign Policy 3.0: We're The Mets of International Diplomacy

Poland's democracy is at risk, too.

The right is still advancing across Europe. It's like the West is returning to 1848.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top