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US Foreign Policy 2.0: Have you read Kipling, Mr. Tillerson?

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aparch said:
Russia TV has no love lost for Donnie. They've admitted that Don was a pawn used for destabilization, and the rare times where Don has "pushed" back on Russia, they've stated that Putin will rein him in.
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You really believe Russian TV is saying that stuff cause that's how they feel? They're just another social media tool used by the Russian state to sow confusion and fake news.
 
rufus said:
You really believe Russian TV is saying that stuff cause that's how they feel? They're just another social media tool used by the Russian state to sow confusion and fake news.
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Oh, I agree with that assessment. It's just that from what I've read from Julia Davis' translations is that this isn't a FOX News-esque Trump lovefest on their network.
 
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aparch said:
Oh, I agree with that assessment. It's just that from what I've read from Julia Davis' translations is that this isn't a FOX News-esque Trump lovefest on their network.
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Sure. it's good cop/bad cop. Putie uses the carrot, they use the stick.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
If the CIA is so great at assassinating people who oppose them and engaging in master cover-ups for decades, why haven't they taken Trump out yet? ;)
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The funny part is Trump reassuring Kim he wouldn’t allow this in the future. As if the potus has any degree of control over cia. They don’t. And for Trump supporters to believe he can control cia they’re delusional.

Remember Sept 2017 Trump tweeted he was releasing a JFK files (3000 + files, mostly cia, fbi, etc), one sit down with the DCI and that was finished. He cannot now nor in the future control the Agency. That ended in Dallas with the only president who tried controlling the agency getting his head blown off for his efforts at control and his efforts against agency and mic wishes to bring peace to the world.

Only we the people can stop the cia and that would take us putting immense pressure on Congress to defund the cia or face a revolution, and that will never happen because no-one reads about the cia really so they don’t know what they do and have done since 1947.
 
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We need an intel structure. We also need for there to be democratic accountability. The obvious solution is that bipartisan reps from both intel committees and an EOP rep get an open kimono.

If that means the CIA has to admit they murdered JFK, so be it. It's been 50 years, nobody involved is still alive. Make the institutional adjustments to ensure it never happens again and move on.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
If the CIA is so great at assassinating people who oppose them and engaging in master cover-ups for decades, why haven't they taken Trump out yet? ;)
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That was when they were young and spry. They've really lost a step.
 
Kepler said:
We need an intel structure. We also need for there to be democratic accountability. The obvious solution is that bipartisan reps from both intel committees and an EOP rep get an open kimono.

If that means the CIA has to admit they murdered JFK, so be it. It's been 50 years, nobody involved is still alive. Make the institutional adjustments to ensure it never happens again and move on.
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I agree but given their history of eliminating enemies or rendering them impotent I don’t know how this begins without tremendous pressure from us.

Check this quote from Jay Rockefeller in 2007:

https://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2014-03-25/quote-chair-senate-intelligence-committee-proves-intelligence-agencies-are-co
 
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So US Embassies are flying Pride flags in defiance of Trump's order.

Sweet.
 
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MissThundercat said:
So US Embassies are flying Pride flags in defiance of Trump's order.

Sweet.
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Wisconsin's new governor ordered the Pride Flag to be flown over the capitol this month. Change will happen.
 
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2 US company oil tankers attacked in Gulf of Oman.

John Bolton thinks its Onan and has an orgasm.

The bombings will begin in _______ days.
 
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Somebody's not dancing to the Tonkin Tango.

The Japanese owner of the Kokuka Courageous, one of two oil tankers targeted near the Strait of Hormuz, said Friday that sailors on board saw "flying objects" just before it was hit, suggesting the vessel wasn't damaged by mines.

That account contradicts what the U.S. military said as it released a video Friday it said shows Iranian forces removing an unexploded limpet mine from one of the two ships that were hit.

The Japanese tanker was attacked twice Thursday, damaging the vessel and forcing all 21 crew members to evacuate.

Company president Yutaka Katada said Friday he believes the flying objects seen by the sailors could have been bullets. He denied any possibility of mines or torpedoes because the damage was above the ship's waterline. He called reports of a mine attack "false."
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Kepler said:
Somebody's not dancing to the Tonkin Tango.
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There was this nugget buried at the bottom:

Already, Iran says it has quadrupled its production of low-enriched uranium. Meanwhile, U.S. sanctions have cut off opportunities for Iran to trade its excess uranium and heavy water abroad, putting Tehran on course to violate terms of the nuclear deal regardless.
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There it is, the path to war if these “attacks” don’t work.
 
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The saddest thing about this whole situation is that I'm actually at the point where I'm more likely to believe Iran's propaganda than whatever comes from the White House.
 
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