University of North Dakota-2015-2016-Seaason

[SCSU Euro]

Re: University of North Dakota-2015-2016-Seaason

I don't see any way that both UMD and UNO get in under those circumstances. You'd basically have UMD vs. CC in one semi and WMU vs. UNO in the other. Maybe if UNO lost to CC in the championship game and UMD won the third place game, but I have a feeling the team we gain with the autobid would cause UNO or UMD to drop out.

Not saying there is any way it can happen, but in the scenario to try to get as many NCHC teams in the dance as possible, you don't need CC AND WMU to advance... have one of them lose so therefore teams can beat SCSU or UND to help their pairwise more. CC sweeping UND then beating SCSU then beating UNO or tUMD and SCSU losing the 3rd place game or WMU sweeping SCSU then beating UND then beating UNO or tUMD and UND losing the 3rd place game is the best chance to get 6 in.

 

[Dirty]

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Not saying there is any way it can happen, but in the scenario to try to get as many NCHC teams in the dance as possible, you don't need CC AND WMU to advance... have one of them lose so therefore teams can beat SCSU or UND to help their pairwise more. CC sweeping UND then beating SCSU then beating UNO or tUMD and SCSU losing the 3rd place game or WMU sweeping SCSU then beating UND then beating UNO or tUMD and UND losing the 3rd place game is the best chance to get 6 in.

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[Biddco]

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I'd say the most likely scenario is that the NCHC gets 3 teams (SCSU, DU and UND). Next likeliest is four teams with UMD or UNO joining the other three. Based on how each of those teams are playing, UMD will probably be the fourth team. I highly doubt we will see five teams.

 

[icehawk]

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I see the big ten is offering buy one ticket and get one free for their cute 6 team tourney for the quarterfinals and semis. That conference has really taken off since its inception.

 

[SJHovey]

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I would say four is possible, five a longshot. Duluth can and in all likelihood should get past Miami, but even if they do I have a feeling they might need to win a game next weekend. Of course a lot depends on how all of the other bubble teams do and how many autobids come from outside the top 16, but I certainly wouldn't feel extremely confident right now if I was a Duluth fan. My prediction is they lose two games next weekend and get left out of the regionals. I think either the Gophers or else Penn State will win the Big Ten tournament, giving us two teams to advance.

I agree with this post, except the part about Duluth losing two games next weekend. I expect them to beat Miami, although it may take three games. I do think UMD will need to win at least one game in Minneapolis.

 

[Speed Kills]

So what you're saying is A) the NCHC is guaranteed to get more than the Big Ten can get and B) that drop-off after the top 3 NCHC teams is GIGANTIC... but even after that gigantic drop-off the top 5 NCHC teams are still ahead of the 2nd best Big Ten team.



Or that Michigan is already in and the Big Ten fans are trying to convince themselves their conference won't get just one team in.

What I'm saying is I think the NCHC will get 3 of their 8 teams in and the Big Ten will get 2 of their 6. No, I absolutely do not agree that the 4th/5th best NCHC teams are better than the 2nd/3rd best Big Ten teams. You could certainly make that case based on the current pairwise, but if that is your sole criteria you would then also be saying that Qunnipiac is better than St. Cloud and Providence is better than Denver. You may or may not think that, but I feel very confident in assuming there are many NCHC fans out there that would argue St. Cloud/Denver are better than Quinnipiac/Providence.

 

[SCSU Euro]

I agree with this post, except the part about Duluth losing two games next weekend. I expect them to beat Miami, although it may take three games. I do think UMD will need to win at least one game in Minneapolis.

Fortunately for them a win Saturday is as good as a win Friday to the PWR

 

[Biddco]

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UMD needs to go 4-1 or 3-1 at the worst to make the tournament over the next two weekends.

 

[Speed Kills]

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UMD needs to go 4-1 or 3-1 at the worst to make the tournament over the next two weekends.

As I said before, it will depend on how many autobids end up coming from outside of the top 16 and of course how all of the other teams on the bubble do from here on out. But more than likely I think what you're saying here is probably right. Unless one of the top three gets knocked out this weekend, which I highly doubt, I think it is going to be extremely difficult for the Bulldogs to steal a win from one of those three next weekend. But that's why they play the games, crazier things have happened.

 

[Biddco]

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had this thought while posting in the SCSU thread:


It would be interesting to see how many of the UND fans in attendance are from North Dakota vs within an hour of the TC. I'd guess a slight edge to North Dakota but pretty close (60-40) split I'd say

 

[SCSU BlackandRed]

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What I'm saying is I think the NCHC will get 3 of their 8 teams in and the Big Ten will get 2 of their 6. No, I absolutely do not agree that the 4th/5th best NCHC teams are better than the 2nd/3rd best Big Ten teams. You could certainly make that case based on the current pairwise, but if that is your sole criteria you would then also be saying that Qunnipiac is better than St. Cloud and Providence is better than Denver. You may or may not think that, but I feel very confident in assuming there are many NCHC fans out there that would argue St. Cloud/Denver are better than Quinnipiac/Providence.

I would absolutely put Quinnipiac ahead of SCSU considering they swept us handily earlier in the year. And I'd put Providence ahead of Denver. Pretty impressive season they are having. Although I would say I think both could beat the other two right now but would think they'd be great games.

Put any of the top 3 NCHC teams in the BIG and they'd win it and it wouldn't be close. #4 and #5 would be in the mix for the title, considering the #4 team swept your current league leader earlier and is currently playing some solid hockey.

 

[icehawk]

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I would absolutely put Quinnipiac ahead of SCSU considering they swept us handily earlier in the year. And I'd put Providence ahead of Denver. Pretty impressive season they are having. Although I would say I think both could beat the other two right now but would think they'd be great games.

Put any of the top 3 NCHC teams in the BIG and they'd win it and it wouldn't be close. #4 and #5 would be in the mix for the title, considering the #4 team swept your current league leader earlier and is currently playing some solid hockey.

Aren't the gophers like 2-13 in their last 15 against in state teams?

 

[SCSU BlackandRed]

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Aren't the gophers like 2-13 in their last 15 against in state teams?

4-12 in last 16. 0-6 this year. 4-6 last year.

 

[Speed Kills]

I would absolutely put Quinnipiac ahead of SCSU considering they swept us handily earlier in the year. And I'd put Providence ahead of Denver. Pretty impressive season they are having. Although I would say I think both could beat the other two right now but would think they'd be great games.

Put any of the top 3 NCHC teams in the BIG and they'd win it and it wouldn't be close. #4 and #5 would be in the mix for the title, considering the #4 team swept your current league leader earlier and is currently playing some solid hockey.

Your bias here is blatantly obvious. I'll take Michigan over any of those NCHC teams.

 

[SCSU BlackandRed]

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Your bias here is blatantly obvious. I'll take Michigan over any of those NCHC teams.

Nope. Might want to look at actual game results and consistency. That last word is key. That is something UND, SCSU and Denver (since December) have had and that's because they all can play defense, something of which Michigan is unable to do. In a single game, Michigan would do just fine against NCHC teams. But over the course of a season they would expose their inability to play defense.

 

[icehawk]

4-12 in last 16. 0-6 this year. 4-6 last year.

Thanks. not much better

 

[icehawk]

Nope. Might want to look at actual game results and consistency. That last word is key. That is something UND, SCSU and Denver (since December) have had and that's because they all can play defense, something of which Michigan is unable to do. In a single game, Michigan would do just fine against NCHC teams. But over the course of a season they would expose their inability to play defense.

Kind of like those 13 goals they gave up to something called Ohio St this past weekend.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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I'll take Michigan in the long run. Once Red dies or resigns that's a hot spot opening up. Could attract some primo candidates.

 

[Biddco]

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Your bias here is blatantly obvious. I'll take Michigan over any of those NCHC teams.

I might have thought the same until they were swept by Ohio State and decided to stop playing defense despite a plethora of talent on the blueline.

 

[Speed Kills]

Nope. Might want to look at actual game results and consistency. That last word is key. That is something UND, SCSU and Denver (since December) have had and that's because they all can play defense, something of which Michigan is unable to do. In a single game, Michigan would do just fine against NCHC teams. But over the course of a season they would expose their inability to play defense.

I was referring to a one game scenario, which we may or may not see a couple of weeks down the road. If any of those NCHC teams should happen to secure a date with the Wolverines, I have supreme confidence that the Big Ten will be vindicated.