Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

[Wholin1]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

Because RPI is there.

There's probably more than a little truth in that. However, Union has never been as committed to hockey as RPI. As an example, RPI has a coach who in all candor hasn't yet matched what Nate Leaman accomplished in his tenure, with far more resources at his disposal, but the powers that be know that they have a good one who they wanted to hang on to and preemptively extended SA's contract for multiple years. Yes, those contracts can be worked around if a coach wants to leave, as we just saw with Nate, but I have to believe that a similar gesture and commitment by Union's AD would have left Nate Leaman as Union's coach for next season and many more to come and it WOULD NOT have cost a fortune. I think we'll be fine with Rick Bennett at least in the short run, but the glass ceiling may fast close in on him and Union hockey unless there is a marked turnaround with the powers that be.

 

[Union93]

Yes Union, teach English. it's and its have two seperate meanings.

My point exactly. Spend less coin on a
hockey coach and dedicate more resources
to educating the 99% of the students that
have nothing to do with playing hockey.

 

[ADK11]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

There's probably more than a little truth in that. However, Union has never been as committed to hockey as RPI. As an example, RPI has a coach who in all candor hasn't yet matched what Nate Leaman accomplished in his tenure, with far more resources at his disposal, but the powers that be know that they have a good one who they wanted to hang on to and preemptively extended SA's contract for multiple years. Yes, those contracts can be worked around if a coach wants to leave, as we just saw with Nate, but I have to believe that a similar gesture and commitment by Union's AD would have left Nate Leaman as Union's coach for next season and many more to come and it WOULD NOT have cost a fortune. I think we'll be fine with Rick Bennett at least in the short run, but the glass ceiling may fast close in on him and Union hockey unless there is a marked turnaround with the powers that be.

Union went D-1 because of the egos of Hull and Delventhal who both thought they could be successful.. and, yes, I'm sure they thought if Colgate, SLU, RPI, etc. could do it, why not Union. Of course Hull, under pressure from faculty, tied both hands behind the coach's back by making sure it would be treated no differently than the women's field hockey team which led to 15 years of mostly embarrassment.. but that is thankfully history.

As for Union committing to Leaman, they gave him a 5 year extension that was to start in 2013 and, from what I heard, McLaughlin told Leaman he could essentially have a lifetime contract if he wanted it. That sure sounds like a decent commitment to me. As for money, I don't doubt that Providence offered more, and maybe U could have ponied up a little more and convinced him to stay.. this time.. but I think that would just be putting off the inevitable. Nate is young and ambitious and wants a bigger challenge. Eventually another "big fish" would have come along with an offer that Union could never match. I mean let's face it, even in the ECAC Union is in the lower echelon of financial means.. compared to the Ivies with endowments the size of the GDP of Europe and more established programs like RPI & Clarkson.

While I don't agree with the TU article that speculates that Union will forever be a "mid-major" like Siena in basketball (..nice how the TU always has to bring up Siena in any local sports article ) and that they can expect to lose their coach every time they make the NCAAs, I see this more like Union's football team that sucked for most of the 70s and was brought back to prominence by Al Bagnoli, who promptly left for U Penn. A top assistant took over and football has remained a strong program (for the most part) ever since. I see no reason the Bennett era won't be the same.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

My point exactly. Spend less coin on a
hockey coach and dedicate more resources
to educating the 99% of the students that
have nothing to do with playing hockey.

I recommend going back to Division III, then. By moving up to this level, spending on academics is definitely important, but you're going to have to put some coin into your highest athletic programs if you want to be competitive. I realize your school can't offer athletic scholarships, but do whatever you can to keep the resources you have in your house, unless you would like the other schools to return to the jokes we made in the 90's and early 2000's.

 

[Hokydad]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

I recommend going back to Division III, then. By moving up to this level, spending on academics is definitely important, but you're going to have to put some coin into your highest athletic programs if you want to be competitive. I realize your school can't offer athletic scholarships, but do whatever you can to keep the resources you have in your house, unless you would like the other schools to return to the jokes we made in the 90's and early 2000's.

Your an RPI fan , go back there and mind your business. You were the guy on the live game blog shi**** on Union and the team and now you want to come over here and tell them to go D 3. I will bet you anything you want that they will finish ahead of RPI more than behind them over the next 5 seasons.

Union's recruits and trend is better than RPI's and Rick Bennett is a great young coach. Will keep the trend in place and the high end recruits coming in. Nate leaman was a given, either now or when Harvard etc ever opened up.

Paying a huge salary, which as a rule of thumb, doesnt happen in the ECAC has nothing to do with supporting the program. Good luck to Nate Leaman, great guy and always a huge plus because he turned this program around and made it a winner. That will not change and I can assure you it will only get better.

Union has 11 of their top 13 scorers coming back and 5 of their top 6 D, a great yound D core. They have a superb recruiting class coming in.

RPI lost their top 2 scorers and 5 of their top 10. Also lost 3 of their top 6 d and no on coming in close to replace them

Union is in much better shape than RPI and has a far superior pipeline.

 

[Wholin1]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

I'm (almost) ready to move on...sigh. In any event, nothing we say or do is going to make things any different. So in that vein, and I know there are plenty of reasons that it would not or could not happen but in the way out there department, how about Rick hiring George Roll as his associate head coach?

 

[Hokydad]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

You should be happy... Better that he went to PC over Harvard, which is the rumor floating around for a few months.

Your program is in great shape. Your roster is very strong, top to bottom and your recruit pipeline is as well. Union is in great shape and your new coach will continue that trend, upward, not sideways or backwards.

Nate Leaman is a rising star and is so young to have had the us and intl experience and the success he has had. He was not going to be there long term. ECAC just doesnt pay that much and he clearly wanted a raise, (what family man doesnt) and the challenge. If he pulled a John Calipari and ruined the program and snuck out, be upset. The program has never been deeper and is set for the next 2 or 3 years+.

 

[Goaliefan]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

I'm (almost) ready to move on...sigh. In any event, nothing we say or do is going to make things any different. So in that vein, and I know there are plenty of reasons that it would not or could not happen but in the way out there department, how about Rick hiring George Roll as his associate head coach?

Judging from the chemistry of the Clarkson teams over the past few years, are you sure?

 

[Wholin1]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

Judging from the chemistry of the Clarkson teams over the past few years, are you sure?

After this month, I'm not sure of anything.

 

[Wholin1]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

Looks like we have our third goalie according to Heisenberg. Dillon Pieri. http://www.pointstreak.com/players/playerpage.html?playerid=4213171&seasonid=5689

 

[AspyDad]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

I will bet you anything you want that they will finish ahead of RPI more than behind them over the next 5 seasons.

I'll take that bet big mouth. Koudys is an early to mid round NHL pick... Neal, Laliberte, Haggerty, etc. are studs. Two stud recruit goalies (Diebold, Kasdorf). I don't know what your beef with Coach and our program is but try to be objective.

 

[jericho]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

I'm (almost) ready to move on...sigh. In any event, nothing we say or do is going to make things any different. So in that vein, and I know there are plenty of reasons that it would not or could not happen but in the way out there department, how about Rick hiring George Roll as his associate head coach?

Or Dan Fridgen

 

[CollegeHCKYfan2323]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

Or Dan Fridgen

I would be happy with Fridge behind the bench for the dutch great guy

 

[Hokydad]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

I'll take that bet big mouth. Koudys is an early to mid round NHL pick... Neal, Laliberte, Haggerty, etc. are studs. Two stud recruit goalies (Diebold, Kasdorf). I don't know what your beef with Coach and our program is but try to be objective.

Beef with your coach? zero beef, have known for 20+ years and admire greatly.

I am very objective and I will bet that Union does finish ahead of RPI more over the next 5 years.

draft picks dont make for great college players.

Haggerty is a stud? he had 4 goals in 32 games in a junior league. Was tied for 7th with 3 players in F scoring.
Koudys had 3 points and a minus 1 as a freshman, Union freshman Matt Bodie had 30 points and was a + 30 on the season.

I made that bet only after one of your pals posted this two faced comment, after sucking up to them on the Union thread.

[Comment From FlagDUDE08FlagDUDE08: ]
It took Union 18 years to even win a playoff series. I don't expect them to win a tourney game anytime soon.

Take your "objective" big mouth comments and go talk to him


Seeing that Union has finished ahead of RPI the past 4 straight years, it would seem that I am being objective. Sounds like you are not

 

[AspyDad]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

Beef with your coach? zero beef, have known for 20+ years and admire greatly.

I am very objective and I will bet that Union does finish ahead of RPI more over the next 5 years.

draft picks dont make for great college players.

Haggerty is a stud? he had 4 goals in 32 games in a junior league. Was tied for 7th with 3 players in F scoring.
Koudys had 3 points and a minus 1 as a freshman, Union freshman Matt Bodie had 30 points and was a + 30 on the season.

I made that bet only after one of your pals posted this two faced comment, after sucking up to them on the Union thread.

[Comment From FlagDUDE08FlagDUDE08: ]
It took Union 18 years to even win a playoff series. I don't expect them to win a tourney game anytime soon.

Take your "objective" big mouth comments and go talk to him


Seeing that Union has finished ahead of RPI the past 4 straight years, it would seem that I am being objective. Sounds like you are not

Are you trying to tell me that Bodie will be better than Koudys? Really. The kid suited up at 17 years old. Rated in the top 100 skaters in North America. Tell UND that draft picks don't make good players. You don't think haggerty is going to be good? He was chosen to play with the cream of the crop of this country's hockey talent. You have known SA for years... is that like the story you spun that you were friends with Adam Oates?

 

[Ralph Baer]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

Beef with your coach? zero beef, have known for 20+ years and admire greatly.

I am very objective and I will bet that Union does finish ahead of RPI more over the next 5 years.

draft picks dont make for great college players.

Haggerty is a stud? he had 4 goals in 32 games in a junior league. Was tied for 7th with 3 players in F scoring.
Koudys had 3 points and a minus 1 as a freshman, Union freshman Matt Bodie had 30 points and was a + 30 on the season.

I made that bet only after one of your pals posted this two faced comment, after sucking up to them on the Union thread.

[Comment From FlagDUDE08FlagDUDE08: ]
It took Union 18 years to even win a playoff series. I don't expect them to win a tourney game anytime soon.

Take your "objective" big mouth comments and go talk to him


Seeing that Union has finished ahead of RPI the past 4 straight years, it would seem that I am being objective. Sounds like you are not

Haggerty had 7 goals in USHL games and others vs. international competition.

Koudys was never advertised as an offensive defenseman. Furthermore, he is over 2 1/2 years younger than Bodie which makes a big difference.

BTW, where do you get the +/- stats?

 

[Hokydad]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

Are you trying to tell me that Bodie will be better than Koudys? Really. The kid suited up at 17 years old. Rated in the top 100 skaters in North America. Tell UND that draft picks don't make good players. You don't think haggerty is going to be good? He was chosen to play with the cream of the crop of this country's hockey talent. You have known SA for years... is that like the story you spun that you were friends with Adam Oates?

Not was friends, am friends with

I do think Haggerty will be fine. Dont care about bottom half NTDP as they dont work out that great. Ask harvard and their 2 or 3 national kids. Outside Grimshaw, have been avg to below avg.

I have no clue if Body will be better, just know that he is a better D 1 player now and will be so for next couple years . After that, who cares, wont help Union or RPI either way.

Rempell from natl program was rated by central scouting almost exactly at the same level as Koudy is and has done zero to date, dressed 10 games fresh year and had 3 points in 2 years. central scouting rankings mean nothing. about 75%+ of kids rated from 75-200 never get drafted.

These are just the undrafted ranked players from his year

NAME POS RANK FORMER TEAM
Anton Burdasov LW 20 Chelyabinsk 2
Sergei Chvanov C 25 Cherepovets 2
Patrik Cehlin RW 26 Djurgarden Jr.
Martin Karlsson LW 27 Leksand Jr.
Kristian Nakyva D 28 Blues Jr.
Sergei Drozd LW/RW 29 Dynamo Minsk
Marek Hrivik LW 31 Zilina
Martin Lundberg C 32 Skelleftea
Henrik Thegel RW 33 Brynas Jr.
Daniil Sobchenko C 34 Yaroslavl 2
Henrik Eriksson LW/RW 35 Djurgarden
Nikita Dvurechensky LW 36 Dynamo Moscow 2
Stanislav Bocharov LW 38 Kazan 2
Dimitri Korobov D 39 Keramin
Sami Blomqvist LW 40 Blues Jr.
Jonathan Johansson C 41 Frolunda Jr.
Andrej Stastny C 42 Trencin Jr.
Radko Gudas D 43 Beroun
Oleg Yashin LW 44 Mytischi 2
Pekka Jormakka LW/RW 45 Jyp
Gabriel Lemieux D 46 Shawinigan
Fredrik Styrman D 46 Lulea Jr.
Andreas Grondahl LW 47 Sodertalje Jr.
Ondrej Dolezal D 49 Plzen Jr.
Johannes Tornberg LW 50 Lulea Jr.
Dmitri Klopov RW 51 Nizhny Novgorod
Adam Polasek D 52 Vitkovice Jr.
Jan Kana RW 53 Vitkovice Jr.
Danny Mattson LW/C 53 Holy Angels
Reto Schappi C 54 Gck Zurich
Nikolai Suslo C 55 Gomel
Daniel Weiss LW/RW 57 Eisbaren Berlin
Filip Gunnarsson RW 58 Farjestad Jr.
Niclas Edman D 59 Farjestad Jr.
Anton Myllari D 60 Vasteras
Simon Lof D 62 Brynas Jr.
Alain Berger RW 63 Bern
Iiro Pakarinen RW 64 Kalpa Jr.
Joni Karjalainen LW 65 Hifk Jr.
Andrei Sergeyev D 66 Nizhnekamsk 2
Etienne Froidevaux C 67 Bern
Radim Herman LW 68 C. Budejovice Jr.
Georgi Berdyukov D 69 St. Petersburg 2
Brennan Yadlowski D 70 Lethbridge
Patrik Geering D 70 Zurich
Burke Gallimore RW 71 Saskatoon
Dennis Bozic D 71 Linkoping
David Valek RW 72 USA U-18
Stanislav Solovyev RW 72 Chelyabinsk 2
Cassidy Mappin LW 73 Red Deer
Viktor Svedberg D 74 Rogle Jr.
Thomas Brandl LW/RW 75 Landshut Cann.
Kevin Puschnik F 76 Heilbronn
Blake Thompson D 76 Sioux Falls
Derek Deblois C 77 Hotchkiss School
Aslan Raisov LW 77 Leninogorsk
Ryan Daugherty RW 78 Omaha
Patrik Eklund D 78 Mora
Martin Olsson C 79 Hv 71 Jr.
Garrett Peterson RW 80 Lincoln
Matej Stritesky D 80 Most
Ju
Georgy Belousov LW 81 Orsk
Jakub Jerabek D 82 Plzen Jr.
Brodie Melnychuk D 83 Brandon
Kristian Frisk RW 83 Hv 71 Jr.
Ondrej Palat LW 84 Vitkovice Jr.
Teemu Eronen D 85 Jokerit Jr.
Guillaume Goulet RW 86 Baie-Comeau
Lukas Stoop D 86 Davos
Semen Valuysky LW 87 Togliatti 2
Alexander Komaristy C 88 Orsk
David Gerths RW 88 Lincoln
Pavel Zotov C 89 Dynamo Moscow 2
Michal Hlinka RW 90 Chicoutimi
Joonas Rask C 90 Ilves Jr.
Brenden Dillon D 91 Seattle
Gregory Sciaroni LW/RW 91 Ambri
Carl Ackered D 92 Djurgarden Jr.
Stepan Novotny RW 93 Kelowna
Petr Senkerik D 93 Zlin Jr.
Matthew Tipoff RW 94 Belleville
Henrich Jabornik D 94 Skalica Jr.
Pascal Berger LW/RW 95 Bern
Eddie Larsson D 96 Linkoping Jr.
John Ramage D 97 USA U-18
Mikael Aaltonen D 97 Tps Jr.
Brendan Rempel D 98 USA U-18
Michal Poletin LW/RW 98 Slavia Jr.
Anton Lazarev RW 99 Mytischi
Kyle Beattie C 99 Jr. Monarchs
Filip Olsson D 100 Aik Jr.
Justin Dowling C 101 Swift Current
Luca Camperchioli D 101 Gck Zurich
Nico Manelius D 102 Jokerit Jr.
Tim Schaller D 103 Jr. Huskies
Tony Vidgren D 103 Lukko Jr.
Peter Sisovsky RW 104 Martin Jr.
Ondrej Havlicek C 105 Usti N. L. Jr.
Paul Bezzo D 105 Owen Sound
Phillipe Lefebvre LW 106 Drummondville
Jakub Orsava LW/RW 106 Trinec Jr.
Romain Loeffel D 107 Fribourg Jr.
Dimitri Kagarlitsky LW 108 Mytischi 2
Bjorn Krupp D 108 Belleville
Keegan Flaherty LW 109 Fargo
Laurin Braun LW/RW 109 Eisbaren Jr.
Jozef Kentos RW 110 Usti N. L. Jr.
Hayden Rintoul D 111 Kootenay
Timur Baraev D 111 St. Petersburg 2
Jared Festler LW 112 St. Cloud State
Nikita Klyukin LW/RW 112 Yaroslavl
Tyler Lapic LW/C 114 New Prague
Sebastian Erixon D 114 Timra
Dimitri Vishnevsky D 116 Spartak
Cory Kane C 117 Vernon
Pavel Chernov C 117 Mytischi 2
Yegor Dugin C 118 Chelyabinsk
Ville Hyvarinen D 119 Kalpa Jr.
Tristan Scherwey RW 120 Bern Jr.
Jeremy Langlois RW 121 New Jersey Hitmen
Tomi Sallinen C 121 Blues
Sebastian Wannstrom LW/RW 122 Brynas Jr.
Micheal Fine C 122 Sault Ste. Marie
Valtteri Virkkunen C 123 Blues Jr.
Andrej Kudrna LW 124 Vancouver
Jere Laaksonen C 124 Lukko Jr.
Yevgeni Timkin RW 125 Omsk
Berkley Scott LW/C 125 Anoka High School
Kyle Hughes LW/C 126 Salisbury
Marc El-Sayed C 126 Heilbronn
Andrei Kuchin LW 127 Chekhov 2
Roman Schlagenhauf C 128 Kloten
Nick Sorkin LW 128 Team Maryland Aaa
Luke Judson RW 129 Belleville
Vladimir Korotkov F 129 Krylja Sovetov
Joseph Campanelli RW 130 Westminster
Casper Carning LW 131 Frolunda Jr.
Willie Coetzee RW 132 Red Deer
Roman Vlach LW 132 Zlin
Luke Duprey D 133 Andover
Joonas Hurri D 133 Pelicans Jr.
Hubert Labrie D 134 Gatineau
Lee Moffie D 135 Waterloo
Artem Valerko LW/RW 135 Krylja Sovetov 2
Kirill Polozov LW/RW 136 Ufa
Janne Kumpulainen LW 137 Jyp Jr.
Ludwig Karlsson LW 138 Linkoping Jr.
Christian Folin D 139 Frolunda Jr.
Kellan Tochkin RW 139 Everett
Chris Mccarthy LW 140 USA U-18
David Ostrizek C 140 Trinec Jr.
Sean Logue LW 141 South Shore
Mauro Jorg LW 141 Lugano
Fredrik Cedergren RW 142 Hv 71 Jr.
Joe Carrabino D 143 Millbrook
Christoffer Liljewall LW/RW 143 Rogle
Alexander Grudakov LW/RW 144 Krylja Sovetov 2
Anatoli Nikontsev RW 145 Tyumen
Jacob Goldberg LW 145 Berkshire
Sebastian Blomstervall C 146 Frolunda Jr.
Collin Bowman D 147 Kelowna
Evgeny Mons C 147 Lipetsk
Henrik Andersen LW 148 Leksand Jr.
Jonathan Lessard LW 149 Acadie-Bathurst
Hampus Gustafsson LW 149 Malmo Jr.
Jan Kovar C 150 Plzen
Oldrich Horak D 151 Zlin Jr.
Matthew Konan D 152 Medicine Hat
Jakub Kania D 152 Trinec Jr.
Niclas Burstrom D 153 Skelleftea Jr.
Sean Escobedo D 154 Sioux Falls
Simon Moser LW/RW 154 Langnau
Tyler Hostetter D 155 Erie
Dino Wieser LW 155 Davos
Jesper Jensen D 156 Rodovre
Oleg Lee LW 156 Fargo
Darren Archibald LW 157 Barrie
Rostislav Marosz C 157 Trinec Jr.
Martin Stajnoch D 158 Bratislava
Ryan Mcgregor C 159 Gck Zurich
Pier-Antoine Dion LW 159 Montreal
Charlie Taft RW 160 Edina High
Robin Olsson D 160 Lulea
Mark Hourihan LW/RW 161 Nobles
Pavel Akolzin RW 161 Spartak 2
Tomas Stano D 162 Trencin Jr.
Nate Schmidt D 163 St. Cloud Cathedral
Mark Mieritz RW 163 Frolunda Jr.
Brooks Herrington C 164 Jr. Monarchs
Sebastian Svendsen C 165 Frolunda Jr.
Patrick Mullane LW 165 Omaha
Rasmus Damgaard D 166 Malmo Jr.
Roman Vasilyev LW 167 Dynamo Moscow 2
Danill Tarasov F 168 Dynamo Moscow 2
Andy Andreoff C 168 Oshawa
Vladimir Malinovsky RW 169 Magnitogorsk 2
Simon Gronvaldt D 170 Kitchener
Daniel Hora D 170 Litvinov Jr.
Matus Rais D 171 Nitra
A.J. Treais RW 171 USA U-18
Lauri Karmeniemi D 172 Hpk Jr.
Luke Curadi D 173 Hartford
Kai Lehtinen D 173 Blues Jr.
Mathieu Populus RW 174 Chicoutimi
John Norman LW/RW 174 Djurgarden Jr.
Jordan Murray LW 175 U. Of Wisconsin
Martin Dulak D 175 Nitra Jr.
Jordan Mayer C 176 Mississauga St. Michael's
Jakub Ciger C 176 Martin Jr.
Sergei Yemelin C 177 Ufa 2
Igor Biryukov LW/RW 178 Cska 2
Maxim Chudinov D 179 Cherepovets
Gabriel O'connor D 180 Halifax
Daniel Brodin RW 180 Djurgarden Jr.
Marshall Everson LW 181 Edina High
Henrik Tommernas D 181 Frolunda Jr.
Jesse Mankinen LW 182 Saipa Jr.
Rylan Schwartz C 183 Notre Dame
Maksim Matushkin D 183 Bjorkloven Jr.
Matias Myttynen C 184 Ilves Jr.
Patrik Andersson D 185 Brynas Jr.
Marc Cantin D 185 Belleville
Brandon Maclean RW 186 Pei
Martin Uhnak LW 186 Nitra
Jeremy Boyer C 187 Seattle
Mikhail Zheleznov LW 187 Cska 2
Dennis Rasmussen C 188 Vasteras Jr.
Simon Jodoin D 188 Moncton
Vladislav Zankovets LW/RW 189 St. Petersburg 2
Risto Mattila D 190 Karpat Jr.
David Tuma F 191 Sparta Jr.
Adam Payerl C 191 Barrie
Manuel Zigerli LW 192 Basel
Matt Brown LW 193 Moncton
Sven Ryser RW 193 Gck Zurich
Georgiy Gurianov LW 194 Walpole
Christopher Aspeqvist D 194 Djurgarden Jr.
Beau Schmitz D 195 Plymouth
Andreas Kristof LW/RW 195 Djurgarden Jr.
Ronald (R.J.) Boyd D 196 Cushing Academy
Juraj Majdan RW 196 Litvinov Jr.
Steven Whitney C 197 Omaha
Michal Pichnarcik D 197 Kosice Jr.
John Henrion RW/C 198 USA U-18
Alexei Potapov RW 198 Nizhny Novgorod
Yuri Kuzin C 199 Perm
Stefan Ulmer D 199 Spokane
Wes Mcleod D 200 Prince George
Marco Nowak D 200 Dusseldorf
Adam Berkle LW 201 Northwood School
Alexander Krushelnyski LW 203 Chicago
Mikael Tam D 204 Quebec
Mike Connolly C 206 U. Minn-Duluth
Brad Yetman D 207 Rouyn-Noranda
Justin Agosta D 208 Berkshire
Alex Wall D 209 Montreal
Dan O'donoghue LW 210 Ny Bobcats

 

[Hokydad]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

Haggerty had 7 goals in USHL games and others vs. international competition.

Koudys was never advertised as an offensive defenseman. Furthermore, he is over 2 1/2 years younger than Bodie which makes a big difference.

BTW, where do you get the +/- stats?

Yes he did have 7 goals, you are correct.

I dont care if they are 12 or 28, all that matters is both are freshman and playing. Who helps team win more is what matters.

Here is Koudys, 3 ponts and a minus 1

http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2010-11/players/patkoudys0212

Here is Bodys, who I short changed. He had 32 points...

32 points and a team leading plus 30

http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2010-11/players/matbodie3zvd

I will also bet you that Unions next 2 classses out perform RPI's

UNION
.
Dillion Pieri-G 4/27/11 Boston Advantage Midget 6'2 180 3-8-92
.
Sam Coatta-RW 1/19/11 Sioux Falls (USHL) 5'10 175 4-9-90
.
Daniel Ciampini-LW 12/13/10 St.Mike's (OJHL) 5'11 170 11-25-90 49-42-46-88-64 40-14-16-30-43
.
Mark Bennett-RW 10/15/10 Oakville (OJHL) 6' 192 7-7-91 45-21-36-57-12
.
Drew Brown-RC 10/5/10 Kent Prep 5'11 180 4-28-92
.
Charlie Vasaturo-RD 9/6/10 Salmon Arm (BCHL) 6'3 200 12-7-90 60-7-19-26-70
.
Shayne Gostisbehere-LD 5/25/10 2011 or 2012 South Kent Prep 5'11 165 4-20-93
.
Colin Stevens-G 4/16/10 2012 Jr.Bruins (EJHL) 6'2 170 6-30-93
.
Max Novak-RC 2/15/10 NJ Hitmen (EJHL) 5'11 185 4-15-91
.
Tyson Fulton-RW 3/24/10 Waterloo (USHL) 5'11 190 9-19-91
.
Trevor Mingoia-LC 12/8/09 Berkshire Prep 5'10 160 1-22-92
.

 

[Wholin1]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

The battle of the Dads should liven things up around here.

 

[AspyDad]

Re: Union Hockey 2011 Off Season Thread-"Union, We've Paid Our Dues"

I apologize in advance to my good Union friends, especially Whollin1 whom I have the greatest respect for. I certainly don't want to conduct this fight on your thread.

Hokydad, you must not have looked at the whole ECAC website because you missed the part where Pat Koudys is ranked 76th. No need for you to continue in your ignorance. Please see link.
http://www.ecachockey.com/men/members/rensselaer/20111404_KoudysNHLCentralScoutingFinalRank

I didn't see Bodie's name. Nice player, tons of respect for him but he is not Patty's quality of player. I believe that you will see Pat at the combine. I'm sure you will see him there with your good friends Bobby Orr, Wayne Gretzky and the other people whom you have imaginary relationships with.