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Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic City!
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Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
I thought it was one of those games where Union could have easily fallen asleep and let SLU sneak out of there with a win. They played a good, physical game and kept SLU from getting too many scoring chances. Congrats to Adam Presizniuk for becoming the all-time D1 scorer!
Does anyone know why Stephane Boileau was not in the lineup? Healthy scratch? Injury?
I thought it was one of those games where Union could have easily fallen asleep and let SLU sneak out of there with a win. They played a good, physical game and kept SLU from getting too many scoring chances. Congrats to Adam Presizniuk for becoming the all-time D1 scorer!
Does anyone know why Stephane Boileau was not in the lineup? Healthy scratch? Injury?
Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
Agree with your analysis. Both teams played hard, the big difference may have been Union's PK which held SLU to 0 for 6. As far as SB, he has not been playing that much the past month or so. I think it's probably a coach's decision.
Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
Wow...I'll bet the same people who thought the Seahawks would beat the Saints also thought Union would rout Clarkson (again). As they say - THAT'S why they play the games.
That had to be Union's most dominant performances over a solid Division 1 team that I've ever seen. I have to admit, though...after the 22-shot first period where Karpowich stood on his head, I saw visions of Clarkson sneaking a couple of shots past Kinkaid and gaining some momentum.
However, I was impressed at how Union kept the pressure on and put away the tired (4 games in 6 nights) Clarkson squad. Kinkaid kept focus and made some solid saves - one spectacular. I was also pleasantly surprised at the 4th line all weekend. Kyle Bodie, Justin Pallos, and Andrew Buote/Luke Cain had to be the best line for both games. I was secretly hoping to see Kyle pick up a hat trick last night, but I'll settle for some POTW votes.
Off to Central NY. Some of us figure that if Union can't win at Starr Rink this year, they never will.
Wow...I'll bet the same people who thought the Seahawks would beat the Saints also thought Union would rout Clarkson (again). As they say - THAT'S why they play the games.
That had to be Union's most dominant performances over a solid Division 1 team that I've ever seen. I have to admit, though...after the 22-shot first period where Karpowich stood on his head, I saw visions of Clarkson sneaking a couple of shots past Kinkaid and gaining some momentum.
However, I was impressed at how Union kept the pressure on and put away the tired (4 games in 6 nights) Clarkson squad. Kinkaid kept focus and made some solid saves - one spectacular. I was also pleasantly surprised at the 4th line all weekend. Kyle Bodie, Justin Pallos, and Andrew Buote/Luke Cain had to be the best line for both games. I was secretly hoping to see Kyle pick up a hat trick last night, but I'll settle for some POTW votes.
Off to Central NY. Some of us figure that if Union can't win at Starr Rink this year, they never will.
Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
Bad things seem to happen at Starr and not so many good things at Lynah for that matter. I agree that Union looked as good last night as I can ever recall in recent memory. Putting up an 8 spot against a much improved Clarkson is notable. The passing was excellent, the physical but controlled play was there too. All but one goal was scored at even strength (actually the PP has cooled dramatically of late-but that's glass half full philosophy). These freshman are getting scary.
I was pretty impressed by how much faster and quicker Union was last night. I have to believe that Clarkson's playing its 4th game in 6 nights against some pretty tough competition had to be a factor, but I'm not sure it would have made a difference.
The logic here seems so obvious that I'm worried.
Bad things seem to happen at Starr and not so many good things at Lynah for that matter. I agree that Union looked as good last night as I can ever recall in recent memory. Putting up an 8 spot against a much improved Clarkson is notable. The passing was excellent, the physical but controlled play was there too. All but one goal was scored at even strength (actually the PP has cooled dramatically of late-but that's glass half full philosophy). These freshman are getting scary.I was pretty impressed by how much faster and quicker Union was last night. I have to believe that Clarkson's playing its 4th game in 6 nights against some pretty tough competition had to be a factor, but I'm not sure it would have made a difference.
StayPuftMMcu
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Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
Well, I said at 10:30am Saturday I thought the Union game could get ugly. Clarkson gave RPI everything they had and the emotional high they were coming down from combined with the exhaustion of 4 games in 6 nights definitely led to the debacle that was Saturday night. Union was three steps faster at every position all night. If we had managed to score in the first period when Karpowich was standing on his head, I think it might have turned out differently, but there was no way we would've deserved to win that game even if we had. Bloody miracle it wasn't 6-0 after the first.
Well, I said at 10:30am Saturday I thought the Union game could get ugly. Clarkson gave RPI everything they had and the emotional high they were coming down from combined with the exhaustion of 4 games in 6 nights definitely led to the debacle that was Saturday night. Union was three steps faster at every position all night. If we had managed to score in the first period when Karpowich was standing on his head, I think it might have turned out differently, but there was no way we would've deserved to win that game even if we had. Bloody miracle it wasn't 6-0 after the first.
UnionHockeyManiac
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Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
Awesome weekend. Unfortunately, I missed the game on Friday because the earliest train I could catch from NY got in at 8:49 (it ended up getting in at 9:30) but I was happy to hear that we stopped St. Lawrence's momentum to beat them with two goals in the third.
I was pretty confident heading into the Clarkson game, knowing our recent history. However, I also knew that Clarkson has been much improved this year so I thought it would be close. I was wrong. I was extremely impressed with Union's performance and I liked the fact that they didn't get discouraged when they out-shot Clarkson 22-3, yet ended the period in a 0-0 tie.
I believe we are up to #14 in the PWR so let's hope we can stay there or move up come tourney time! Great to be back in Schenectady for the weekend. LET'S GO U!
Awesome weekend. Unfortunately, I missed the game on Friday because the earliest train I could catch from NY got in at 8:49 (it ended up getting in at 9:30) but I was happy to hear that we stopped St. Lawrence's momentum to beat them with two goals in the third.
I was pretty confident heading into the Clarkson game, knowing our recent history. However, I also knew that Clarkson has been much improved this year so I thought it would be close. I was wrong. I was extremely impressed with Union's performance and I liked the fact that they didn't get discouraged when they out-shot Clarkson 22-3, yet ended the period in a 0-0 tie.
I believe we are up to #14 in the PWR so let's hope we can stay there or move up come tourney time! Great to be back in Schenectady for the weekend. LET'S GO U!
OsecnUC
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Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
Is it that the batteries are recharged after the break? It sure looked like it this weekend.
The enigma is when they play OOC games against teams with winning reputations. The self confidence seems to be missing although they should be winning those. In turn, there are still the unknowing out there that don't recognize U as a good college hockey program. The mindset in both is ingrained and tough to change. To change this there needs to be consistent scheduling of OOC games vs, the likes of Michigan State, Providence, or Wisconsin. They're .500 teams playing in front of big crowds in the CCHA, Hockey East, and WCHA. When U can go into one of these games with the same frame of mind as they do for an ECAC game, then they will move to the next level. So far so good, as they continue to improve and increase their rep, but they should look forward to this sooner than later. Let's keep the roll going in league play.
GOOOOU
Is it that the batteries are recharged after the break? It sure looked like it this weekend.
The enigma is when they play OOC games against teams with winning reputations. The self confidence seems to be missing although they should be winning those. In turn, there are still the unknowing out there that don't recognize U as a good college hockey program. The mindset in both is ingrained and tough to change. To change this there needs to be consistent scheduling of OOC games vs, the likes of Michigan State, Providence, or Wisconsin. They're .500 teams playing in front of big crowds in the CCHA, Hockey East, and WCHA. When U can go into one of these games with the same frame of mind as they do for an ECAC game, then they will move to the next level. So far so good, as they continue to improve and increase their rep, but they should look forward to this sooner than later. Let's keep the roll going in league play.
GOOOOU
Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
We comment a bit about this topic every season, more or less. Now Ken Schott and I both want a new rink or in a manner of speaking, "If they come, will they build it?" This is a longshot for a lot of reasons, but let's face it, Messa rink is a D-III facility with a D-1 team. (By the way, it looked like there were some problems with the ice on Saturday). The Saturday Clarkson game wasn't quite a sellout according to the announced attendance, but it really had that cramped feeling. The rest room facilities are totally inadequate, the bleachers uncomfortable and difficult to access, and well, you know all the rest. A top ranked program deserves a top notch facility or at the very least, an adequate one. Well, I can dream can't I?
http://cms.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2011/jan/10/college-hockey-slap-schotts-2010-11-week-14/
We comment a bit about this topic every season, more or less. Now Ken Schott and I both want a new rink or in a manner of speaking, "If they come, will they build it?" This is a longshot for a lot of reasons, but let's face it, Messa rink is a D-III facility with a D-1 team. (By the way, it looked like there were some problems with the ice on Saturday). The Saturday Clarkson game wasn't quite a sellout according to the announced attendance, but it really had that cramped feeling. The rest room facilities are totally inadequate, the bleachers uncomfortable and difficult to access, and well, you know all the rest. A top ranked program deserves a top notch facility or at the very least, an adequate one. Well, I can dream can't I?
http://cms.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2011/jan/10/college-hockey-slap-schotts-2010-11-week-14/
Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
Interesting about the new rink idea.
I think it was 1995 when Roger Hull explored the idea of moving the games to the Schenectady city center (I think) and sharing it with SYO. I remember emailing Mr. Hull with my thoughts to keep Achilles around and not move the team's games off campus - partially because of the location and logistics, but mostly because Achilles reminded me a bit of Clarkson's old Walker Arena. Walker was a cozy, yet intimidating barn in the middle of Potsdam (where I spent many a winter evening during my freshman & sophomore years at SUNY Potsdam), but a great place for a game. Not a great place if you wanted comfort, but at 18-19 years old, I didn't care. Achilles/Messa is actually larger than Walker was, but there is still a cozy feel to the rink where I felt Hull didn't need to move the team away.
Now that I'm almost 40, I might be rethinking things. The logistics aren't great (restrooms are small, concession stand is somewhat difficult to access, press box in a weird location, ice issues are cropping up again, the majority of us still sit on bleachers, etc.) and maybe it's time for a jump to a better facility for a D-I program on the rise.
We comment a bit about this topic every season, more or less. Now Ken Schott and I both want a new rink or in a manner of speaking, "If they come, will they build it?" This is a longshot for a lot of reasons, but let's face it, Messa rink is a D-III facility with a D-1 team. (By the way, it looked like there were some problems with the ice on Saturday). The Saturday Clarkson game wasn't quite a sellout according to the announced attendance, but it really had that cramped feeling. The rest room facilities are totally inadequate, the bleachers uncomfortable and difficult to access, and well, you know all the rest. A top ranked program deserves a top notch facility or at the very least, an adequate one. Well, I can dream can't I?
http://cms.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2011/jan/10/college-hockey-slap-schotts-2010-11-week-14/
Interesting about the new rink idea.
I think it was 1995 when Roger Hull explored the idea of moving the games to the Schenectady city center (I think) and sharing it with SYO. I remember emailing Mr. Hull with my thoughts to keep Achilles around and not move the team's games off campus - partially because of the location and logistics, but mostly because Achilles reminded me a bit of Clarkson's old Walker Arena. Walker was a cozy, yet intimidating barn in the middle of Potsdam (where I spent many a winter evening during my freshman & sophomore years at SUNY Potsdam), but a great place for a game. Not a great place if you wanted comfort, but at 18-19 years old, I didn't care. Achilles/Messa is actually larger than Walker was, but there is still a cozy feel to the rink where I felt Hull didn't need to move the team away.
Now that I'm almost 40, I might be rethinking things. The logistics aren't great (restrooms are small, concession stand is somewhat difficult to access, press box in a weird location, ice issues are cropping up again, the majority of us still sit on bleachers, etc.) and maybe it's time for a jump to a better facility for a D-I program on the rise.
UnionHockeyRadio
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Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
HELP MAKE THE NEW COACH'S SHOW A HUGE SUCCESS!
Union Fans - We need your help!
http://www.unionathletics.com/news/2011/1/6/MICE_0106111618.aspx
New Coach's show, live at Bomber's in Schenectady at 6pm every Tuesday from now til the end of the season. Please spread the word, and if you can make it down, come on in to Bomber's and say hello. If you can't make it, please e-mail your questions for the coach to UnionHockeyRadio@gmail.com - And we'll read them (the good ones
) live on air.
Let's do everything we can to make this a huge success. The bigger crowds, the more questions, = the more fun.
If you have any suggestions/ideas for segments - Things you'd like to hear on the coach's show, also feel free to let us know!
As a note about attendance, the announced was 2,170. Official sellout is 2,225, but to my knowledge, when they do a TV game some seating is lost. I didn't see an empty seat in the building and people were standing at the rails - so I don't see how it could be considered anything but a sellout.
HELP MAKE THE NEW COACH'S SHOW A HUGE SUCCESS!
Union Fans - We need your help!
http://www.unionathletics.com/news/2011/1/6/MICE_0106111618.aspx
New Coach's show, live at Bomber's in Schenectady at 6pm every Tuesday from now til the end of the season. Please spread the word, and if you can make it down, come on in to Bomber's and say hello. If you can't make it, please e-mail your questions for the coach to UnionHockeyRadio@gmail.com - And we'll read them (the good ones
) live on air. Let's do everything we can to make this a huge success. The bigger crowds, the more questions, = the more fun.
If you have any suggestions/ideas for segments - Things you'd like to hear on the coach's show, also feel free to let us know!
As a note about attendance, the announced was 2,170. Official sellout is 2,225, but to my knowledge, when they do a TV game some seating is lost. I didn't see an empty seat in the building and people were standing at the rails - so I don't see how it could be considered anything but a sellout.
Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
Congrats to ECAC POTW, Kyle Bodie. http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2010-11/Weekly_Awards/20111101_M_Wkly_Awards
Congrats to ECAC POTW, Kyle Bodie. http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2010-11/Weekly_Awards/20111101_M_Wkly_Awards
OsecnUC
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Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
a good concept but will this bring in better OOC teams? You need to provide a consistenly good product to attract this competition and the answer to this is scholarships. We're riding a wave right now, but no matter how good Nate does in recruiting and providing winning teams, the only way you will attract the elite players is through money. Attract the elite player and you will attract the bigger teams in the nation. At the end of the day, save the monet on a venue and spend it on players. We're not an Ivy team afteral...
Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
My understanding is the only way for U to give scholarships is for all sports to go D-1. Clarkson, RPI, etc. have exemptions so they can do this and keep their other sports D-3, and I believe the NCAA is not allowing exemptions anymore.
Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
I know a new rink is a stretch, but I'd be settle for a rehab that provided more fan friendly facilities including more comfortable seating, adequate restrooms, and better refreshment services. I don't think that's too much to ask.
I think this is basically correct.
I know a new rink is a stretch, but I'd be settle for a rehab that provided more fan friendly facilities including more comfortable seating, adequate restrooms, and better refreshment services. I don't think that's too much to ask.
Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
Most of the "big Name programs" in the west won`t come to the small ECAC barns for several reasons. # 1 they don`t want to give up the gate revenue they would get for an OOC home series that many schools are more than willing to do. Secondly they have very few OOC games available because they play so many league games.Thirdly they really have no interest in putting OOc games on the schedule where a win does nothing for them because sadly many times a win vs Union or RPI doesn`t help them in the Rankings and a loss is held against them. I was Very surprised when NODAK went to Cornell for a two home set recently. I suspect there is a story behind it that perhaps a Cornell fan could explain. Getting BU , BC or as you know Maine to come to your barn is almost always a coaches connection deal.
Most of the "big Name programs" in the west won`t come to the small ECAC barns for several reasons. # 1 they don`t want to give up the gate revenue they would get for an OOC home series that many schools are more than willing to do. Secondly they have very few OOC games available because they play so many league games.Thirdly they really have no interest in putting OOc games on the schedule where a win does nothing for them because sadly many times a win vs Union or RPI doesn`t help them in the Rankings and a loss is held against them. I was Very surprised when NODAK went to Cornell for a two home set recently. I suspect there is a story behind it that perhaps a Cornell fan could explain. Getting BU , BC or as you know Maine to come to your barn is almost always a coaches connection deal.
Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
That's changing!
Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
I should have said historically.That's changing!
uniondutch21
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Re: Union College Dutchmen Hockey 2010-11: There's one way and that's to Atlantic Cit
Most players on the hockey team do not pay for school. Ask them, they're on some sort of scholarship. I believe this issue came up a couple years ago and the president at the time responded with "we can't treat the hockey players differently than the other athletes"
We really need a new rink though. Hopefully someone will donate oodles of money like they did to get the Gym fixed up. "Price Chopper Arena" courtesy of The Golub's He has plenty of space next to the Price Chopper facility on Nott.
Most players on the hockey team do not pay for school. Ask them, they're on some sort of scholarship. I believe this issue came up a couple years ago and the president at the time responded with "we can't treat the hockey players differently than the other athletes"
We really need a new rink though. Hopefully someone will donate oodles of money like they did to get the Gym fixed up. "Price Chopper Arena" courtesy of The Golub's He has plenty of space next to the Price Chopper facility on Nott.