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Union College: 2017-2018

Re: Union College: 2017-2018

What if?
What if any of the 12 ECAC teams went undefeated in league play the rest of the way. How many could hypothetically reach 28 league points?

Q = 28
Darmouth = 29
Colgate = 31
Harvard = 31
Union = 36
Clarkson = 40
Cornell = 41

This thing is a long way from being over. Who gets that the first-week bye is a long way from being decided. Starting next weekend it's going to be a wild ride. Next weekend our freshmen get a taste of Lynah.

your last 3 sentences are absolutely right on..
Union plays all but Clarkson, with Cornell and Colgate twice, - Odds are real good None of them end up undefeated the rest of the way now that Clarkson has proven human
 
Re: Union College: 2017-2018

You're right, the curse was actually at Starr rink, but we're starting a new "curseeeeeeeee".:)
 
Re: Union College: 2017-2018

You're right, the curse was actually at Starr rink, but we're starting a new "curseeeeeeeee".:)

Shabby: The only thing that can place a curse are an angel, a fairy, a hag, or the undead. Which are you? Did you go through proper training? Do you have a certificate? If you say the curse the wrong way, Colgate may never win another game at Class of 1965 Arena :rolleyes:
 
Re: Union College: 2017-2018

Business as Usual for No. 1 Men’s Hockey Entering ECAC Matchups Against Union, RPI
http://cornellsun.com/2018/01/31/bu...key-entering-ecac-matchups-against-union-rpi/

Well, well, well. Friday we go against the #1 team in the nation. ;) Schafer talks about RPI being a "pretty good" hockey team but does not mention Union. I wonder if the Dutchmen are excited to be playing the #1 Hockey Team in the Country? You think they are pyched?

Ahead of the Curve
Cornell Welcomes Raised Expectations Heading Into Stretch Drive
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/01/30_Ahead-of-the-Curve.php

Cornel is the 6th heaviest and we are the 7th lightest team in the NCAA's.

Cornell looking ahead to Clarkson on the 9th.
 
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Re: Union College: 2017-2018

Fun and exciting game tonight unless you happened to care who won. :eek: Great comeback by the Dutchmen; the game could easily have gone either way. I've rarely seen a game so controlled by momentum. When we had it we looked like we could win 12-0. When you had it we looked like we didn't belong in the same building.

Lots of missed open nets by both teams as well our crossbar and disallowed goal. That game could probably have been 8-5.

See you in a few weeks.
 
Re: Union College: 2017-2018

Fun and exciting game tonight unless you happened to care who won. :eek: Great comeback by the Dutchmen; the game could easily have gone either way. I've rarely seen a game so controlled by momentum. When we had it we looked like we could win 12-0. When you had it we looked like we didn't belong in the same building.

Lots of missed open nets by both teams as well our crossbar and disallowed goal. That game could probably have been 8-5.

See you in a few weeks.

Might have been an even better game if those two blind mice had stayed home.. worst refs of the year -- anywhere
easy to see why they always win at home..
When did they do away with Holding the stick penalty?
 
Re: Union College: 2017-2018

Game happened just as I expected... a very high defense that we hate. Cornell plays with lots of forechecking to slow you down, and it works well.
Low energy first period from the whole team. Looked like they'd just woken from their nap or something... We were a step behind every play, both on the offense and on defense.
Very decent first 13 minutes of the second period.
Then we played defense all the way until the last 2 minutes of game.
Cornell seemed to always have an extra gear, and we seemed to have trouble just staying in gear.

Hanson had a very decent game (both goalies did). Once he figures out his rebounds a bit better, he should be a very good goalie. He seemed fairly poised, stayed square to the shooter.

On to Colgate! Let's get 2 points!!!
 
Re: Union College: 2017-2018

I remember the 7-0 beating we gave Cornell in 2015. I believe it was the first round of the ECAC Playoffs. It was at Lynah. Cornell had 10 penalties (deserved 20). Postgame Schafer had nothing positive to say about us. He just whined. I remember the painful look he had on his face. As a matter of fact, I do not recall anything positive about us or any other ECAC team coming from Schafer during 2012 - 2014.

Looks like they have combined their traditional strength in defence with some speed and scoring and that makes for a lethal combination for opponents. We really still don't know how good they are. They actually may be better than their record. They are young and could be strong for a few years. This year the ECAC is weak. Cornell deliberately played a very very weak non-conference schedule. That might have been smart of them. That may work to their advantage in building up confidence and teamwork. Q-Pack did that a few times and went deep into the post season. Not sure how well Cornell will do against Omaha or Minnesota.

I remember 2014 in Lake Placid. A huge group of Cornell's most obnoxious fans were there and they continued to be obnoxious even after the game was well over. A ref should have called an unsportsmanlike penalty on the crowd post game. :D

I am a big ECAC fan always pulling each season for whatever ECAC team is still in the running. It will be hard to do with Cornell because of their slobbering, whining, obnoxious coach and equally obnoxious, entitled and arrogant fans. I guess I will just have to hold my nose.;)
 
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Re: Union College: 2017-2018

I remember the 7-0 beating we gave Cornell in 2015. I believe it was the first round of the ECAC Playoffs. It was at Lynah. Cornell had 10 penalties (deserved 20). Postgame Schafer had nothing positive to say about us. He just whined. I remember the painful look he had on his face. As a matter of fact, I do not recall anything positive about us or any other ECAC team coming from Schafer during 2012 - 2014.

Looks like they have combined their traditional strength in defence with some speed and scoring and that makes for a lethal combination for opponents. We really still don't know how good they are. They actually may be better than their record. They are young and could be strong for a few years. This year the ECAC is weak. Cornell deliberately played a very very weak non-conference schedule. That might have been smart of them. That may work to their advantage in building up confidence and teamwork. Q-Pack did that a few times and went deep into the post season. Not sure how well Cornell will do against Omaha or Minnesota.

I remember 2014 in Lake Placid. A huge group of Cornell's most obnoxious fans were there and they continued to be obnoxious even after the game was well over. A ref should have called an unsportsmanlike penalty on the crowd post game. :D

I am a big ECAC fan always pulling each season for whatever ECAC team is still in the running. It will be hard to do with Cornell because of their slobbering, whining, obnoxious coach and equally obnoxious, entitled and arrogant fans. I guess I will just have to hold my nose.;)

Some nights Union is their own worst enemy..
You know you are going into a hostile environment and the first 10 minutes are crucial to take the crowd out of the game while you get your legs to full tilt
So what do they do - a penalty in the first 5 minutes (by the Captain no less) and 3 penalties in the first 10 minutes - a complete mission failure.
You're playing a big brawny team - so dress every guy you have that is short and light ..
You have a late game power play - the unit out there is buzzing and getting chances so you pull them after 30 seconds
and not another chance for the 1:30 left in the penalty by the replacements..
There were mistakes last night and from the TOP down enough to go around...
I agree on Hanson - needs to control rebounds and STOP play whenever things get shaky (ala SAK)
- a faceoff with line change beats another easy scoring chance on tired guys..
Tonight is a must win..
Good to have #18 back - he looked solid for 9 games off..
 
Re: Union College: 2017-2018

I remember the 7-0 beating we gave Cornell in 2015. I believe it was the first round of the ECAC Playoffs. It was at Lynah. Cornell had 10 penalties (deserved 20). Postgame Schafer had nothing positive to say about us. He just whined. I remember the painful look he had on his face. As a matter of fact, I do not recall anything positive about us or any other ECAC team coming from Schafer during 2012 - 2014.

Looks like they have combined their traditional strength in defence with some speed and scoring and that makes for a lethal combination for opponents. We really still don't know how good they are. They actually may be better than their record. They are young and could be strong for a few years. This year the ECAC is weak. Cornell deliberately played a very very weak non-conference schedule. That might have been smart of them. That may work to their advantage in building up confidence and teamwork. Q-Pack did that a few times and went deep into the post season. Not sure how well Cornell will do against Omaha or Minnesota.

I remember 2014 in Lake Placid. A huge group of Cornell's most obnoxious fans were there and they continued to be obnoxious even after the game was well over. A ref should have called an unsportsmanlike penalty on the crowd post game. :D

I am a big ECAC fan always pulling each season for whatever ECAC team is still in the running. It will be hard to do with Cornell because of their slobbering, whining, obnoxious coach and equally obnoxious, entitled and arrogant fans. I guess I will just have to hold my nose.;)

I see you're from the same mold as our President. Thank God most Union alum are civil.
 
Some nights Union is their own worst enemy..
You know you are going into a hostile environment and the first 10 minutes are crucial to take the crowd out of the game while you get your legs to full tilt
So what do they do - a penalty in the first 5 minutes (by the Captain no less) and 3 penalties in the first 10 minutes - a complete mission failure.
You're playing a big brawny team - so dress every guy you have that is short and light ..
You have a late game power play - the unit out there is buzzing and getting chances so you pull them after 30 seconds
and not another chance for the 1:30 left in the penalty by the replacements..
There were mistakes last night and from the TOP down enough to go around...
I agree on Hanson - needs to control rebounds and STOP play whenever things get shaky (ala SAK)
- a faceoff with line change beats another easy scoring chance on tired guys..
Tonight is a must win..
Good to have #18 back - he looked solid for 9 games off..

Curious to understand Cornell getting a PP late in the 3rd in a 3-3 game at Lynah. Did not see the game so perhaps it was a no brainer call.
 
Re: Union College: 2017-2018

Big win tonight vs Colgate. Ensures that a 4-2 record down the stretch, and likely a 3-3 record down the stretch, should lock up a bye. Way to stick with it and eventually beat a very good goalie and defense a couple of times. Nice to see Kupsky play well. And Rinaldi's improvement from last year and ability to finish continues to impress. One other thought I have- our PP is so all over the map. We have real solid numbers overall on the PP, so it is hard to be upset with it. But some PP look very good. While other PPs look like we have never been on a PP before. Anybody with more Xs and Os knowledge then me know the cause of the enormous PP inconsistency?

It is too bad that we could not have pulled off the win last night vs Cornell, especially knowing that Clarkson and Cornell lost tonight. It could have put us tied for 2nd right now and only 1 point behind Cornell for 1st. Not to mention the Pairwise help (which is a lost cause now). But, no reason to live in the past and playing with the #1 team in the nation on the road is always a good sign regardless of outcome. We didn't necessarily play bad overall last night, but there were certainly prolonged stretches of the game that were poor and frustrating. Most notably, as mentioned above by Pokey, taking three penalties in the first 10 minutes. While Cornell is much better on offense this year, they still historically play great D and beat you on your own mistakes- turnovers and penalties. So taking three penalties to start the game against them was inexplicable really. Nonetheless, solid weekend and Union has put themselves in a good spot.
 
Re: Union College: 2017-2018

I remember the 7-0 beating we gave Cornell in 2015. I believe it was the first round of the ECAC Playoffs. It was at Lynah. Cornell had 10 penalties (deserved 20). Postgame Schafer had nothing positive to say about us. He just whined. I remember the painful look he had on his face. As a matter of fact, I do not recall anything positive about us or any other ECAC team coming from Schafer during 2012 - 2014.

Looks like they have combined their traditional strength in defence with some speed and scoring and that makes for a lethal combination for opponents. We really still don't know how good they are. They actually may be better than their record. They are young and could be strong for a few years. This year the ECAC is weak. Cornell deliberately played a very very weak non-conference schedule. That might have been smart of them. That may work to their advantage in building up confidence and teamwork. Q-Pack did that a few times and went deep into the post season. Not sure how well Cornell will do against Omaha or Minnesota.

I remember 2014 in Lake Placid. A huge group of Cornell's most obnoxious fans were there and they continued to be obnoxious even after the game was well over. A ref should have called an unsportsmanlike penalty on the crowd post game. :D

I am a big ECAC fan always pulling each season for whatever ECAC team is still in the running. It will be hard to do with Cornell because of their slobbering, whining, obnoxious coach and equally obnoxious, entitled and arrogant fans. I guess I will just have to hold my nose.;)
With all due respect.. I almost completely disagree with this. Schafer made plenty of positive statements about Union's coaches, players, and style of hockey in the Leaman/Bennett years leading up to 2014. In many ways, Leaman's teams were quite similar to Schafer's with a defense first/tough to play against style, but with a little more emphasis on speed rather than size/strength. I personally recall several press interviews after Union games where Schafer was quite complimentary of U and predicted good things if they kept playing that way.

While I'm no expert on Cornell hockey, iIt seemed to me in the 2014-15 season Schafer tried to open things up a bit more offensively and changed up the forechecking and gap control system that had served them so well over the years. Maybe it was from watching Yale's & Union's NC runs playing a more uptempo style, I don't know. The results were relatively disastrous by Cornell standards, as they finished 7th in the league and got blown out in the last game by U. I don't blame Schafer for being a tad upset after that game and not even mentioning Union.. BTW I've seen Bennett do that on more than a few occasions too. I also remember Schafer saying to the press after that game that they were going to go back to playing "Big Red hockey" again. Since then its been the same formula of big, tough, defense first, puck control, great goaltending teams that has been Schafer's bread & butter. To me the results speak for themselves - Cornell has finished below 5th in the league only 2 TIMES in the last 15 YEARS. Schafer is definitely a coach worthy of respect for bringing good, mostly big players (not so easy to find in college hockey) to a good academic school with no scholarships and getting them to play a disciplined, team-first, physical style of very successful hockey. Is Schafer a great guy that you'd want to invite to Thanksgiving dinner? Honestly, I don't know and probably none of us on this board do. Are some of the Big Red fans utterly obnoxious?? Definitely yes, but so are plenty of fans of other teams (including a handful for U I'm sorry to admit).


To get back to the games, I was very happy with the way the team responded in Lynah and a big win tonight that gives U some separation from Gate in the battle for top 4. Having Supinski back is a big boost to the offensive creativity and hopefully will help the team win some of these big games down the stretch. The defense and PK still worry me and Hanson is still learning in goal, but the team seems to be starting to believe in themselves which is promising.
 
Re: Union College: 2017-2018

Big win tonight vs Colgate. Ensures that a 4-2 record down the stretch, and likely a 3-3 record down the stretch, should lock up a bye. Way to stick with it and eventually beat a very good goalie and defense a couple of times. Nice to see Kupsky play well. And Rinaldi's improvement from last year and ability to finish continues to impress. One other thought I have- our PP is so all over the map. We have real solid numbers overall on the PP, so it is hard to be upset with it. But some PP look very good. While other PPs look like we have never been on a PP before. Anybody with more Xs and Os knowledge then me know the cause of the enormous PP inconsistency?

It is too bad that we could not have pulled off the win last night vs Cornell, especially knowing that Clarkson and Cornell lost tonight. It could have put us tied for 2nd right now and only 1 point behind Cornell for 1st. Not to mention the Pairwise help (which is a lost cause now). But, no reason to live in the past and playing with the #1 team in the nation on the road is always a good sign regardless of outcome. We didn't necessarily play bad overall last night, but there were certainly prolonged stretches of the game that were poor and frustrating. Most notably, as mentioned above by Pokey, taking three penalties in the first 10 minutes. While Cornell is much better on offense this year, they still historically play great D and beat you on your own mistakes- turnovers and penalties. So taking three penalties to start the game against them was inexplicable really. Nonetheless, solid weekend and Union has put themselves in a good spot.

We have been giving away points 1 at Harvard and at least 1 at Cornell -- really good teams don't waste those..

It's alot like the old saying "If you think you have two good QBs then you really don't have 1" .. Most teams put their BEST 5 guys on the power play
because it gives them the best chance to score every time. We split our guys into 2 units which means one or two of your better scorers aren't on the ice.
Look at the end of a game when you are a goal behind - Who is on the ice? That is your BEST POWER PLAY... Your best chance to score...
you need a crease presence (size, good in traffic solid on skates), a play making forward at the point (good passer, good shot, sees the ice), 2 snipers with good sticks who fight for the puck and a D-MAN with a cannon shot
There that outta do it..
 
Re: Union College: 2017-2018

I was fairly impressed with your team last night, very fast but small forwards. Vidmars winning shot was top corner over Points shoulder, a beautiful goal scorers goal, not too many can do that. You guys deserved the win, good luck going forward.
 
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