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UNH Wildcats-The Back Nine and Beyond!

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Felt the 'Cats played with more intensity than we've seen but couldn't make it happen. FWIW dept felt Woll had his share of "look what I found" saves... Chuck I do not agree it was the disaster you paint. It wasn't like BC ran the 'Cats off the ice. But the W would have been nice. Big tumble down PWR to boot even though it's not even worth a precursory glance...right?
Go 'Cats!
 
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Felt the 'Cats played with more intensity than we've seen but couldn't make it happen. FWIW dept felt Woll had his share of "look what I found" saves... Chuck I do not agree it was the disaster you paint. It wasn't like BC ran the 'Cats off the ice. But the W would have been. Ice. Go 'Cats!

Attendance listed at 5572; was the Whitt loud tonight?
 
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Weird game tonight. Thought it was anybody's game going into the third. Salvaggio is snake bitten thats for sure!!
 
That was Jason Krog taking the stupid lazy penalty in overtime against BU, which is a mortal sin, or so I learn from reading this thread, where we can all pick out one play and interpret it through our own prejudices.

So, are you telling us that JVR was a better college hockey player than Krog? That per game, he had more of an impact on UNH Hockey history than Krog? Chuck and I have had our differences over the years but I thoroughly endorse the notion that what a guy does at UNH is a hell of a lot more significant to me than how he performs in the NHL. For example, JVR is a better NHL player than Krog. But Krog led his team to within a whisker of the national championship and won the Hobey. JVR did neither. Ask just about any UNH fan with institutional memory and they will say Krog over JVR, guaranteed. And I dare say, ask anybody who was a fan of the late 70s Wildcats who they prefer and it would be Gould over JVR. Why? Production at the most crucial moments.
 
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Stewie not behind the bench tonight confirmed at FOH he's on the road recruiting...
 
Felt the 'Cats played with more intensity than we've seen but couldn't make it happen. FWIW dept felt Woll had his share of "look what I found" saves... Chuck I do not agree it was the disaster you paint. It wasn't like BC ran the 'Cats off the ice. But the W would have been. Ice. Go 'Cats!

Watched the game from the comfort of my den tonight. After the first period BC had the better of the play. Not saying they dominated because they didn’t but UNH had great difficulty generating any kind of rush and, in the last half of the game had no semblance of sustained pressure. Of course BC was not much better so, if Woll had not made this insane save when he was totally out of the play,,the game probably would have ended in a tie, which would have been a fair result.

The way it looks to me is that BU, BC, Northeastern, Providence and Lowell are all better than UNH. UNH is probably better than UMass and Maine, which leaves them battling with UConn, UVM and Merrimack for the middle fiddle. But, all in all, Hockey East is pretty weak this year.
 
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the way it looks to me is that <del>bu</del>, bc, northeastern, providence and lowell are all better than unh. Unh is probably better than umass and maine, which leaves them battling with uconn, uvm and merrimack for the middle fiddle. But, all in all, hockey east is pretty weak this year.

fyp :)
 
I find it interesting that the narrative from the fiercely sentimental crowd jas turned into it being all about what UNH players do at UNH, when this whole argument began with their direct comparison of Gould and JVR at the NHL level in an attempt to minimize JVRs accomplishments. Miss a kick, move the goalposts...

JVR is the more talented player and better scorer at each level - any coach with objectivity picks him first to build either a college or professional team as his skill set and ability is much harder to find. Bobby Gould is still very good, a more defensively responsible player and made a bigger impact at UNH by staying four years and scoring some big goals. They're both good. They're both Wildcats.

Take all the issue with paragraph two, sentence one you want. It's true. Its not an indictment on Gould's career, a diminishing of his accomplishments or an affront to the glory days and heros of ones youth (If you take it as one that's your perspective not mine. Perhaps a reflection of your own attempts to belittle a former player...). And it's my last word on the subject...

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More importantly, UNH loses again. The bloom is off the rose. They're not talented or deep enough to beat the better teams in college hockey regularly. They can still have a good season if they win the games they're supposed to and steal a few from better teams, but the margin for error is shrinking. A 2-1 record over the next three is all but a must for confidence heading into a stretch of games they need to win if they hope to make the tournament to send Dick out in style...

At Yale has historically been a tough ask for even the best UNH teams. This game just screams their Snively goes off... #irony
 
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Just got back from Durham and happy BC lucked out with 2 points 🍺

Don’t know how UNH could have missed on the 2-man advantage but they did.

Really tight game through out with BC hitting bars twice.

It was anybody’s game.
 
Just got back from Durham and happy BC lucked out with 2 points 🍺

Don’t know how UNH could have missed on the 2-man advantage but they did.

Really tight game through out with BC hitting bars twice.

It was anybody’s game.

Well 5 on 3's don't always work out and it was only for 25 secs. That being said the UNH PP hasn't been successful as of late. Wild moments and maybe the game ends in a tie as already noted. BC did what they had to do. Felt UNH was glad to have some players back and this break ( not playing g tomorrow) is a good thing. You guys are gaining distance in HE...

Glad you enjoyed your trip to the 'Whitt. I don't usually go to your place but got some free tix off a friend who has season tix and can't make it. And the game being on a Sunday is a plus. Happy trails til then!
 
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Well 5 on 3's don't always work out and it was only for 25 secs. That being said the UNH PP hasn't been successful as of late. Wild moments and maybe the game ends in a tie as already noted. BC did what they had to do. Felt UNH was glad to have some players back and this break ( not playing g tomorrow) is a good thing. You guys are gaining distance in HE...

Glad you enjoyed your trip to the 'Whitt. I don't usually go to your place but got some free tix off a friend who has season tix and can't make it. And the game being on a Sunday is a plus. Happy trails til then!

I never went to the Whitt until recently and this was my 3rd trip there in the last 5 years. It is so much easier to find with GPS on my phone.
If I used road maps I would never find this place in the dark.

It is nice and roomy compared to UVM's old rink and better bathrooms.

On TV it looked like a not well lighted rink but perhaps it is the way the ice is made underneath or lacks a bright white background underneath the ice.
On TV the ice usually looks gray to me.

Yes, it was a short 2-man advantage but when it went to one man advantage but I thought for sure the puck was going to go in when Woll looked out of position from his net when UNH shot at him. Don't know what it hit along the way because I was seeing it from the other end of the rink near the UNH end. I only saw the shooting motion of the UNH player but not the puck as I was too far away to see it.

BC's PP was terrible in the beginning of the season and still a work in progress. But I see some improvements.

If you come to Conte, parking is free in the Commonwealth Garage. Beacon Garage might be free too as my friend usually parks there.
 
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I never went to the Whitt until recently and this was my 3rd trip there in the last 5 years. It is so much easier to find with GPS on my phone.
If I used road maps I would never find this place in the dark.

It is nice and roomy compared to UVM's old rink and better bathrooms.

On TV it looked like a not well lighted rink but perhaps it is the way the ice is made underneath or lacks a bright white background underneath the ice.
On TV the ice usually looks gray to me.

Yes, it was a short 2-man advantage but when it went to one man advantage but I thought for sure the puck was going to go in when Woll looked out of position from his net when UNH shot at him. Don't know what it hit along the way because I was seeing it from the other end of the rink near the UNH end. I only saw the shooting motion of the UNH player but not the puck as I was too far away to see it.

BC's PP was terrible in the beginning of the season and still a work in progress. But I see some improvements.

If you come to Conte, parking is free in the Commonwealth Garage. Beacon Garage might be free too as my friend usually parks there.
Beacon Garage is not open to all. Open to Flynn Fund donors only.
 
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More importantly, UNH loses again. The bloom is off the rose. They're not talented or deep enough to beat the better teams in college hockey regularly. They can still have a good season if they win the games they're supposed to and steal a few from better teams, but the margin for error is shrinking. A 2-1 record over the next three is all but a must for confidence heading into a stretch of games they need to win if they hope to make the tournament to send Dick out in style...

At Yale has historically been a tough ask for even the best UNH teams. This game just screams their Snively goes off... #irony

Speaking of which, another going away smooch from Joey B and the league office in a couple of weeks. Getting Providence the weekend after the Fraudship Four in Ireland. If my math is correct, teams that have played in that ludicrous event have gone 4-9-1 the next weekend. Better make some hay that weekend.

Not to mention they get RPI a few days later.
 
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Beacon Garage is not open to all. Open to Flynn Fund donors only.

All I know is we have a parking pass with the tickets so that works for us! Just took a look and we are in the Beacon St. garage 2? Anyway...it's all free so we'll take advantage! :D
 
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Folks I am not ready to write off this UNH team (as you'd expect) and I'm not saying anyone here is either. However I am concerned that our top line and over all goal production in the last 3 games has certainly been lacking; PP hasn't produced much of anything. It's obvious that someone on that top line needs to step up and be a playmaker. To be fair both Grasso and Charlie K have been dealing with injuries which have to affect them. On paper this is still a young team that I believe will progressively get better but the veterans have their work cut out for them. I do not wish to say that without TyK forget it but something has to give on that top line. I have no clue if we shuffled the deck what that could even look like. Would love some convo on this. Going to give BC credit; their veteran players stepped up for them, they played solid D, and Woll managed twice to avoid what looked like sure goals in big save efforts.

Over all we still deal with a lack of timely/lengthy puck possession but last night I thought we did a decent enough job of limiting BC's chances although in the 3rd you could see they had the puck for long periods of time. Seeing some good stuff from guys like Eric MacAdams as he scored his first NCAA goal. Love the tenacity of that player every shift the kid gives and it paid off last night. I think we are going to see a lot from him as the season goes forward.

Glad we have the day off(sort of :D) and hope we find something on the road v Yale. Have heard that's a tough place to play. Hope you're right Felger about PC and the malaise of playing in the FS4 tourney as PC is up next. They are playing decent hockey and HE points are desperately needed. Wishing all a great Thanksgiving. Go 'Cats!!

Ps..we could see Eiserman back for Yale
 
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Just to elaborate a little further on last night's game (caught it on ESPN3 on my way back from vacation) ... it seemed UNH's offense was choppy and at times accidental. That can sometimes be classified as opportunistic, or arise from some tough checking that forces giveaways in key areas of the ice. Their two goals were very nice, but once you got past that ... really, not too much in the way of quality chances. Even the BvR breakaway (second period IIRC?) never looked like he had a chance. And of course the Woll save in the 3rd was a fluky break on a weird bounce coming out of the corner. Nazarian should have buried it, but it looked like he was almost too careful just to get it on net, and didn't think Woll would have a chance to get back in position. Oh well ... easy come, easy go, I suppose.

I guess for me, it always just felt like BC had more attacking flow more consistently. It's not like they were utterly dominant, but I think if you put both teams out there without their school colors, any neutral observer would say that the team that scored three goals had better chances all night long, were more organized in their 5-on-5 play, and won most of the puck battles too. I disagree with the poster who said that if the Nazarian shot went in, the game would have been a deserved tie. I absolutely positively think that even if UNH does score that goal, BC would have turned it up another notch, and I think they'd have won later in regulation or in OT. The way they killed off most of the last 2 minutes, once UNH came back to full strength, was textbook situational possession hockey. Disheartening as a UNH fan to see your team struggling to simply get the puck back when they needed it, and not being able to get Tirone out of the net sooner as a result.

One final thing I want to mention goes to our emerging All-HE talent Max Gildon back on the blueline. In most of the games to date, he's stood out apart from most of the rest of the players on either team. Last night, he was largely neutralized and fairly ineffective. Hey, you are a frosh, and you are going to have some of those nights, it's all part of the learning curve, I can understand that.

What I can't understand, and will not tolerate, is watching him give up the puck near the end of the final UNH power play (I think - it was latter half of the 3rd period IIRC?) at the opposing blue line, and then simply watching the BC kid coast in for a clean breakaway on Tirone for what would have been the game-clincher. Maybe he was gassed? I don't know, but it was a terrible look, and it's not the first time I've seen him putting forth a half-hearted defensive effort at a key point in a tight game. Maybe this was what Bucky saw? Probably harsh on Gildon, but if I'm his coach, and he's doing this at this early stage of his career, I'm getting in his grill and telling him this is unacceptable.
 
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Well Chuck I do think your most recent post speaks to pretty much the tale of the tape last night. Saw the Gildon miscue and yup...that's an issue and not the first time that's happened. However I'm going to give him the benefit of the "you are only 18" still...more has to come from him in those regards. UNH is still fortunate to have him that for me at least does not change. Hope/have to believe he's a coachable kid that would be aware and will continue to work at it.

Wondering out loud that if we were completely healthy in these past three if things would've been different at least in the UML game. No matter it's what happens next is what matters. Lots of hockey to go. Go 'Cats!

Ps... didn't know/realize BC has had our number out of 23 past games they are 17-2-3 😳
 
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