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UNH Wildcats 2016 Offseason Thread - Searching for Direction

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UNHJourney34 said:
The game was rigged! Eiserman scored right at the buzzer at the end of the first half and they waived it off even though it was clearly before time expired. They could have used you out there officiating HR! At the start of the game there was actually quite a few people there, unfortunately around half time it started to rain and it thinned out pretty quick. But the shootout was hilarious! None of the ICE hockey players knew what to do on the FIELD hockey goalie. Tirone did his best to keep them in it.
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Ha! I would have loved to have volunteered my services...I imagine it was a challenge to NOT play the ball with both sides of the stick..Wish I could've been there but alas had a lax game to officiate, in the rain. Hoping to make it next time around. They (the hockey team) won last year so I imagine the FH team wanted revenge hence the waived off goal! Also speaking of Eiserman I heard he decked a few players....:eek:

Sorry 'bout the FB like posts..just nothing to say that hasn't been said I guess. I'm sure there will be plenty of news in the next few weeks. No, this isn't meant to be cryptic :p
 
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HockeyRef said:
Ha! I would have loved to have volunteered my services...I imagine it was a challenge to NOT play the ball with both sides of the stick..Wish I could've been there but alas had a lax game to officiate, in the rain. Hoping to make it next time around. They (the hockey team) won last year so I imagine the FH team wanted revenge hence the waived off goal! Also speaking of Eiserman I heard he decked a few players....:eek:

Sorry 'bout the FB like posts..just nothing to say that hasn't been said I guess. I'm sure there will be plenty of news in the next few weeks. No, this isn't meant to be cryptic :p
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I think they had more of a problem not using their feet to stop the ball. Marks must have been whistled 15 times during the game for using his feet. Eiserman did have 1 good check, although the field hockey player stepped right in front of him while he was running full speed. Plus the ground was really wet and slippery, so the general consensus in the crowd was that there was no way he could avoid it. And you could tell he was really embarrassed by it, taking himself out of the game as soon as it happened.
 
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sonar said:
Nice to see a school like AIC lay out a specific recruiting plan to change the culture a bit. Thoughtful, cogent, and removed from the past proceedings .... and they even shared it with their fans .... what a concept.
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Lang hired as AIC head coach on April 15th - ten days shy of ONE month later and already FIVE* players have committed to AIC. Certainly, nice to see an actual plan executed with belief, confidence and aggression...

* Ketola, Skog, Reinhardt, Luca, Demel....
 
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Dan said:
Lang hired as AIC head coach on April 15th - ten days shy of ONE month later and already FIVE* players have committed to AIC. Certainly, nice to see an actual plan executed with belief, confidence and aggression...

* Ketola, Skog, Reinhardt, Luca, Demel....
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Do you think that AIC will be back at Lake Whitt this coming season? Buzzz!
 
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Dan said:
Lang hired as AIC head coach on April 15th - ten days shy of ONE month later and already FIVE* players have committed to AIC. Certainly, nice to see an actual plan executed with belief, confidence and aggression...

* Ketola, Skog, Reinhardt, Luca, Demel....
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Dan, let's be fair ... you gotta admit it's a little easier recruiting numbers-wise when you (AIC) are at the bottom of the barrel, and really just about any of the (run-of-the-mill) recruits you bring on board is going to have a shot to play right away. I mean, UNH arguably had someone using that same "quantity vs. quality" approach (barring the "playing right away" bit) in recent seasons ... and look where that's gotten us. I don't disagree that UNH's recent recruiting efforts have been frustrating, but you're comparing (rotten) applies to (over-ripe) oranges here, no?
 
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Snively65 said:
Do you think that AIC will be back at Lake Whitt this coming season? Buzzz!
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Gosh I hope not with AIC being the new BC and all..:D;) No honestly I think it's great they are looking to the future with a new coach etc...
 
Chuck Murray said:
Dan, let's be fair ... you gotta admit it's a little easier recruiting numbers-wise when you (AIC) are at the bottom of the barrel, and really just about any of the (run-of-the-mill) recruits you bring on board is going to have a shot to play right away. I mean, UNH arguably had someone using that same "quantity vs. quality" approach (barring the "playing right away" bit) in recent seasons ... and look where that's gotten us. I don't disagree that UNH's recent recruiting efforts have been frustrating, but you're comparing (rotten) applies to (over-ripe) oranges here, no?
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I don't think it matters how they compare to UNH recruits/talent and I'm not comparing the two groups. I'm sure we can still hang out hat on being better than AIC for the foreseeable future. What I'm comparing is the recruiting philosophy of the two new coaches...

Whether these recruits could play at UNH is irrelevant - they are seen by many as a clear upgrade for AIC. More importantly the new coach is CLEAR on his high expectations for, and belief in, what the program can be. He views whatever limitations outsiders place on the program as insignificant to achieving his stated goals. He is able to passionately sell his vision and kids are buying in immediately. I think it's safe to say AIC has never had a run like this in, at least recent, program history...

They had TWO total commits before the new coach took over. So while you may be right about them taking anyone, it's clear very few of 'anyone' had any interest in going there. After the coaching change, better prospects were buying in immediately...

Most significant is how the entire attitude around the AIC program, it's recruiting efforts and expectations for the program have changed. They will likely never be anything more than 'competitive' in the AHA, but that is a huge step up from <5 wins a year. A similar step by UNH would put them back in the national spotlight...

Recruiting aggressively, selling and targeting kids aggressively does not mean you'll end up with quantity over quality. That was Borek's approach. It's certainly not Denvers approach - they're aggressively reeling in a quantity of quality. UNH had the same opportunity as AIC and the same ability as DU, yet as Sonar pointed out has taken a completely different approach. That's the comparison...

Finally, let's not pretend that it would/should be difficult for the standard HE recruit to outplay upperclassmen at UNH the last few/next few years for any reason other than Umile...
 
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Dan said:
I don't think it matters how they compare to UNH recruits/talent and I'm not comparing the two groups. I'm sure we can still hang out hat on being better than AIC for the foreseeable future. What I'm comparing is the recruiting philosophy of the two new coaches...

Whether these recruits could play at UNH is irrelevant - they are seen by many as a clear upgrade for AIC. More importantly the new coach is CLEAR on his high expectations for, and belief in, what the program can be. He views whatever limitations outsiders place on the program as insignificant to achieving his stated goals. He is able to passionately sell his vision and kids are buying in immediately. I think it's safe to say AIC has never had a run like this in, at least recent, program history...

They had TWO total commits before the new coach took over. So while you may be right about them taking anyone, it's clear very few of 'anyone' had any interest in going there. After the coaching change, better prospects were buying in immediately...

Most significant is how the entire attitude around the AIC program, it's recruiting efforts and expectations for the program have changed. They will likely never be anything more than 'competitive' in the AHA, but that is a huge step up from <5 wins a year. A similar step by UNH would put them back in the national spotlight...

Recruiting aggressively, selling and targeting kids aggressively does not mean you'll end up with quantity over quality. That was Borek's approach. It's certainly not Denvers approach - they're aggressively reeling in a quantity of quality. UNH had the same opportunity as AIC and the same ability as DU, yet as Sonar pointed out has taken a completely different approach. That's the comparison...

Finally, let's not pretend that it would/should be difficult for the standard HE recruit to outplay upperclassmen at UNH the last few/next few years for any reason other than Umile...
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Dan, I totally understand your point as to the different approaches. But before we arrange the coronation of the new AIC coach, can we at least wait until they play a game, y'know, so we can see how it actually works out on the ice?

Did AIC need a breath of fresh air? I'm sure they did. Has that apparently happened with the new guy? Probably. At least it seems he knows how to play the PR game. Will he do any better than the last guy? Remains to be seen. "Philosophy" is nothing more than a plan or promise unless it's backed by results.

There's a big difference between talking a good game, and producing concrete results with your program. For every Norm Bazin, there are at least a half-dozen guys who come amidst heavy PR, and fail to attain the hoped-for results. At least at AIC, the bar is set low, and a 5 win bump will make you a local messiah. We're going to need a lot more than that to get UNH back into the national spotlight. JMHO.
 
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As Dan said ......"UNH had the same opportunity as AIC and the same ability as DU, yet as Sonar pointed out has taken a completely different approach. That's the comparison..."

Yep ...
 
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Snively65 said:
I remember about a decade ago, I think, when UML had three Finns; must have been an Olympic year when they were seniors, as those three players were unavailable for a few games mid-season, and UML suffered for it.
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2002 - Lowell had Yorick Treille (Sr), Laurent Meunier (So), and Baptiste Amar (Fr) all leave for a month in January to represent France in the Olympics. A promising season (Lowell was #3 in the country when they left), went bust. They were the last team out in the final year of the 12-team NCAA tourney.
 
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Searching for the thread - never mind complicated stuff like searching for direction in a program lacking same.
 
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CHN reporting NU will play UNH at Frozen Fenway this season. Likely 1/14
 
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Snively65 said:
And, according to schedules thread, NU vists Lake Whitt on Thursday, January 12th, for a home and partial-home, so to speak.
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Unfortunate to see us missing out on our annual trip to Mathews (Boston) Arena for the silly frostbite game.
 
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Chuck Murray said:
Unfortunate to see us missing out on our annual trip to Mathews (Boston) Arena for the silly frostbite game.
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Totally agree! I so look forward to this trip...prob will go to Frozen Fenway (it can't be THAT bad?!? :p ) and come here and gripe about it...only to be told...'we told ya so'!!!!
 
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HockeyRef said:
Totally agree! I so look forward to this trip...prob will go to Frozen Fenway (it can't be THAT bad?!? :p ) and come here and gripe about it...only to be told...'we told ya so'!!!!
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You know that we will. :)
 
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