UNH Wildcats 2015 Offseason - Future Planning ...or Just Rearranging the Deck Chairs?

[Hokydad]

If only society had developed some way of recording understandings between parties, and holding them to those promises, rather than having one party unilaterally change that understanding with few if any repercussions.

To credit Umile, he has owned his recruiting mistakes. To my recollection, he has not driven any of the recruits who failed to develop, away from UNH.



In contrast, a certain newly burnished NCAA champion has driven at least four kids off before they arrived, freeing room for new recruits.

Jake Henderson
Tom Aldworth
Terrance Amoroso
Dylan McLaughlin

BS

UNH has pushed out and pushed away several players. Several+

 

[Hokydad]

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Henderson really sounds like he was driven away

http://m.therecord.com/sports-story/5826113-henderson-is-more-than-a-tough-guy

 

[NCAA watcher]

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BS

UNH has pushed out and pushed away several players. Several+

Going back to 2001, Will O'Neill (and there were academics involved).

At school, Eric Chevrier.

 

[Hokydad]

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Aldworth didn't develop? According to who?

http://www.vernonmorningstar.com/news/297844411.html?mobile=true

Going to Q and had very good season

 

[NCAA watcher]

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He committed to PC in 2012, and after that had weak senior year at Cushing, then bounced around from USHL, cut to NAHL. PC lost interest in him and he became a free agent.

 

[cavbim]

He committed to PC in 2012, and after that had weak senior year at Cushing, then bounced around from USHL, cut to NAHL. PC lost interest in him and he became a free agent.

No as I believe Hokey is hinting at Aldsworth was still committed to PC until after he produced his big season this past winter. He asked PC to up the ante on his partial telling them he could get more elsewhere. They told him if that was the case then take it they were done

 

[Hokydad]

No as I believe Hokey is hinting at Aldsworth was still committed to PC until after he produced his big season this past winter. He asked PC to up the ante on his partial telling them he could get more elsewhere. They told him if that was the case then take it they were done

Exactly
It is also telling that it was Vernon to Q. Very strong relationship there including the Jones twins and others.

 

[Snively65]

I was hoping Souza would make a good splash at the 00 festival, since the 00s would start college in the 2018. However, BU, BC and U.Conn came away with the top kids. Nothing for UNH.

Maybe they were waiting for the Jumbletron to be raised.

Needed to show them artist's rendition of jumbotron. Hard to sell the big sheet to d-men?

 

[wildcatdc]

Hey there no idea am waiting myself!!! Haha I always sing that song walking to the Whitt Speaking of going to the 'Whitt hope to see you and the future Mrs wildcatdc there!!

We will be trying to make a few games on times when I'm home from down south (10 months to go, but who's counting??). Looks like we will be able to take in our matchup with Snively65's alma mater, and also catch the Verizon Maine game. Might even try to sneak in a Burlington trip January 2nd. After that, who knows....

And the future Mrs. WildcatDC is only 3 weeks away from that designation - getting hitched 10/3 at our NH home! Unfortunately, wasn't able to convince her to start the honeymoon by taking in the St. Francis Xavier exhibition the next day. Has me wondering if I made the right choice....

 

[HockeyRef]

We will be trying to make a few games on times when I'm home from down south (10 months to go, but who's counting??). Looks like we will be able to take in our matchup with Snively65's alma mater, and also catch the Verizon Maine game. Might even try to sneak in a Burlington trip January 2nd. After that, who knows....

And the future Mrs. WildcatDC is only 3 weeks away from that designation - getting hitched 10/3 at our NH home! Unfortunately, wasn't able to convince her to start the honeymoon by taking in the St. Francis Xavier exhibition the next day. Has me wondering if I made the right choice....

That's great news! Hoping to see you at those games...and have a wonderful nuptial !!! We already have our tix for the Maine Verizon game looking forward to spending the night in Portland.. Enjoy!! Haha I'm sure you made the right choice these things take time

 

[Chuck Murray]

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To credit Umile, he has owned his recruiting mistakes. To my recollection, he has not driven any of the recruits who failed to develop, away from UNH.

That's probably one of Coach Umile's most redeemable qualities, and probably why his former players all seem to hold him in such high regard. It seems that so long as you find your way onto campus (something that's seemingly become a HUGE challenge in recent years), get with the system, put in the effort, and stay out of trouble, you get a legit shot at a D-1 career.

It's the roadblocks and obstacles that are happening in the "pipeline" that seem to be choking off the flow of more talented recruits ... if that's targeting the wrong players, spending too much time chasing players who are effectively out of your reach, making poor decisions on deferments, encountering decommits and other changes of heart, and (of course) finally the admission issues ... these things were always happening earlier in Coach Umile's tenure, but it was much more isolated. Now, it seems like it's reached epidemic levels.

And the challenges ahead are significant. UNH's stature in HE has gradually slipped into the middle tier (although probably top half) of the league competitively, so the program's recruiting profile has slipped in the eyes of the future incoming players and their families. We have spent the offseason discussing the highly publicized "succession plan", which theoretically should smooth over some issues for some recruits, but also raises lots of questions (more obstacles in the "pipeline"?) about who is making the final decisions on which players are being recruited for which years, whose promises are more reliable, etc. And with Coach Stewart apparently being the "odd man out" in terms of the top job ... is he truly committed to UNH in the aftermath of the fairly public coronation of Souza as Coach Umile's successor? Or do we see another wave of decommits in a year or two if/when Coach Stewart decides to move on to greener pastures?

As a fan, I'm not someone who usually pays a lot of attention to recruiting, beyond a general awareness. But the next few months may tell a tale on the mid-range (3-5 years?) and long range (5-8 years?) futures of this program in transition, and I'll be VERY interested to see how things unfold ...

 

[Snively65]

We will be trying to make a few games on times when I'm home from down south (10 months to go, but who's counting??). Looks like we will be able to take in our matchup with Snively65's alma mater, and also catch the Verizon Maine game.

UNH is Snively65's alma mater; class of 1971/72 (4.5-year guy). Bentley is my employer. I will be attending that game incognito.

 

[HockeyRef]

UNH is Snively65's alma mater; class of 1971/72 (4.5-year guy). Bentley is my employer. I will be attending that game incognito.

Looking forward to our game with your employer's team sir
And just wanted to say thank you to all of you hope you have a wonderful hockey season! It's been a pleasure..

 

[roma]

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That's probably one of Coach Umile's most redeemable qualities, and probably why his former players all seem to hold him in such high regard. It seems that so long as you find your way onto campus (something that's seemingly become a HUGE challenge in recent years), get with the system, put in the effort, and stay out of trouble, you get a legit shot at a D-1 career.

It's the roadblocks and obstacles that are happening in the "pipeline" that seem to be choking off the flow of more talented recruits ... if that's targeting the wrong players, spending too much time chasing players who are effectively out of your reach, making poor decisions on deferments, encountering decommits and other changes of heart, and (of course) finally the admission issues ... these things were always happening earlier in Coach Umile's tenure, but it was much more isolated. Now, it seems like it's reached epidemic levels.

And the challenges ahead are significant. UNH's stature in HE has gradually slipped into the middle tier (although probably top half) of the league competitively, so the program's recruiting profile has slipped in the eyes of the future incoming players and their families. We have spent the offseason discussing the highly publicized "succession plan", which theoretically should smooth over some issues for some recruits, but also raises lots of questions (more obstacles in the "pipeline"?) about who is making the final decisions on which players are being recruited for which years, whose promises are more reliable, etc. And with Coach Stewart apparently being the "odd man out" in terms of the top job ... is he truly committed to UNH in the aftermath of the fairly public coronation of Souza as Coach Umile's successor? Or do we see another wave of decommits in a year or two if/when Coach Stewart decides to move on to greener pastures?

As a fan, I'm not someone who usually pays a lot of attention to recruiting, beyond a general awareness. But the next few months may tell a tale on the mid-range (3-5 years?) and long range (5-8 years?) futures of this program in transition, and I'll be VERY interested to see how things unfold ...

I am a NU fan and I believe that coach Umile is a great asset to the UNH program, but if UNH, like NU, does not give stipends how can they compete with the majority of HE teams that award full scholarships plus cash to recruits ?

 

[HockeyRef]

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Just saw the new toy (Tron) for myself today while watching UNH FH (beat the NU Huskies 1-0) ...did my heart good! Bring on hockey season!!

Meanwhile, Brett Pesce has a big night in a Rookie game w/ the 'Canes:

http://hurricanes.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=778862&navid=DL|CAR|home

See the 2 goals here .50 and 1:01: (And I do believe Matt Willows played on the 2nd line in this game)

http://hurricanes.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=778862&navid=DL|CAR|home

 

[Chuck Murray]

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I am a NU fan and I believe that coach Umile is a great asset to the UNH program, but if UNH, like NU, does not give stipends how can they compete with the majority of HE teams that award full scholarships plus cash to recruits ?

Not to belabor a point/punchline but that approach worked pretty GD well for Walshy back in the day.

 

[bostonewe]

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That's great news! Hoping to see you at those games...and have a wonderful nuptial !!! We already have our tix for the Maine Verizon game looking forward to spending the night in Portland.. Enjoy!! Haha I'm sure you made the right choice these things take time ��

Married thecomicbook guy last year (if any of you guys remember him). He eventually convinced me that since Detroit/Ann Arbor is on the way to California, there was no reason not to stop there for a UNH/Michigan game to kickstart our honeymoon. Keep bugging her and see if she comes around.

 

[HockeyRef]

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Married thecomicbook guy last year (if any of you guys remember him). He eventually convinced me that since Detroit/Ann Arbor is on the way to California, there was no reason not to stop there for a UNH/Michigan game to kickstart our honeymoon. Keep bugging her and see if she comes around.

Now there's a guy who has his priorities straight!

 

[Darius]

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Married thecomicbook guy last year (if any of you guys remember him). He eventually convinced me that since Detroit/Ann Arbor is on the way to California, there was no reason not to stop there for a UNH/Michigan game to kickstart our honeymoon. Keep bugging her and see if she comes around.

Remember him. Miss him here. Happy to see he still has his priorities in line.

 

[HockeyRef]

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Curious: Has UNH formerly announced our incoming recruiting class? I follow Drew Bonifant of the CM and haven't seen it yet....