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UNH Wildcats 2015 Offseason - Future Planning ...or Just Rearranging the Deck Chairs?

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Let's not sell them short.
You know, U.Conn aspiring to excellence and selling a fast rise is half the selling battle. (To repeat what I've said the last 10 years and where UNH has slipped and lost as a selling point). I want Souza to sell the hell out of that when he finally gets annointed by the godfather as worthy of taking over.

It seems to be working. U.Conn just beat BC and other HE teams (presumably UNH, too) to one of the top 2000s, Drew Elser, who played on a line with UNH's Joel Farabee last year. As this was right in UNH's wheelhouse, needing the 2018 class to replace the big class of freshmen, I can only conclude Cavanagh's goal of winning HE is more realistic than other schools'.

UNH's top Defensive recruit just fell into their laps. And two of the three of U.Conn's other defense recruits are better than any UNH D recruit. Wisocky is above a decent number of UNH forward recruits.

I can only hope Souza was a big factor in U.Conn getting those kids.

We all knew a shuffle was happening, and one of the benefits that I talked about was UNH making its transition before other programs in order to get a jump start. We now have BU, U.Conn, Providence making their moves, so by the time UNH's change happens in 3 years, it could be a tiny ripple already behind the other programs. That challenge will be even more unless Souza can start selling the 2000s (2018 recruits) on being part of the UNH jump-start. I tell myself that Souza was the selling point for U.Conn for Elser, Mayer, Wisocky and Karashki, and that he is merely abiding by the promise not to poach U.Conn recruits, and that is why Elser didn't follow Souza. Right?
 
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Re: UNH Wildcats 2015 Offseason - Future Planning ...or Just Rearranging the Deck Cha

Even in today's bit about hiring Brendan Buckley he's yapping about UConn's future as a "national champion". :eek: Hey, howsabout you first establish UConn as a legit D-1 Hockey East program before moving on to the coronation?? Listen, ambition is good ... but blind ambition without the portfolio is foolhardy, and you make yourself look like an ***** in the process. At this rate, UConn will be eclipsing both NICC and (*gulp*) his former employer as teams I simply cannot bring myself to root for. And THAT would be quite the *accomplishment*, but this guy's wings badly need some clipping.

Because aspiring to be national champions is ludicrous. Especially from a guy who has won four already. How dare he? Who would want to play for a guy so crazy? "Coach I came here to be mediocre, what gives?"

Maybe if your local program had those aspirations, you'd actually win something.
 
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Because aspiring to be national champions is ludicrous. Especially from a guy who has won four already. How dare he? Who would want to play for a guy so crazy? "Coach I came here to be mediocre, what gives?"

Maybe if your local program had those aspirations, you'd actually win something.

Right. UNH is merely a place for kids who wanna play hockey for fun show up and do whatever. :p I don't blame you for having strong feelings regarding this convo regarding your coach (and kudos to UConn for pushing ahead...it's what you want your program to do!) The broad based goals of the UNH Men's hockey program have been clearly stated at the functions I have attended and they are:

1. Win the HE (we have done that...)
2. Win the NC (we have been there...)

Say what you want about our success in these two goals over the years but I know that's what the plan is going forth. I am hopeful that we are heading in that direction. I know it's a hugely complicated task to get these recruits, sell them on a program, and actually have them walk through the door. There's no more resting on our laurels; kids are too savvy for that but it remains part of that sell. And I know that hope doesn't win hockey games or recruit the next Jack Eichel...But please...if you're gonna come over here and talk about winning something, you have to demonstrate you've done that yourself. Just sayin'.
 
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Right. UNH is merely a place for kids who wanna play hockey for fun show up and do whatever. :p I don't blame you for having strong feelings regarding this convo regarding your coach (and kudos to UConn for pushing ahead...it's what you want your program to do!) The broad based goals of the UNH Men's hockey program have been clearly stated at the functions I have attended and they are:

1. Win the HE (we have done that...)
2. Win the NC (we have been there...)

Say what you want about our success in these two goals over the years but I know that's what the plan is going forth. I am hopeful that we are heading in that direction. I know it's a hugely complicated task to get these recruits, sell them on a program, and actually have them walk through the door. There's no more resting on our laurels; kids are too savvy for that but it remains part of that sell. And I know that hope doesn't win hockey games or recruit the next Jack Eichel...But please...if you're gonna come over here and talk about winning something, you have to demonstrate you've done that yourself. Just sayin'.

Unfortunately this is old hat for UCONN fans....but it does mean one thing...if you constantly talk about our HC that means you constantly talk about our program. Not a bad accomplishment considering UCONN is heading into year 2 in HE and is still 3 scholarships behind everyone else. There isn't anything Chuck or anyone else can say about UCONN that hasn't already been said by a Syracuse fan.
 
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Unfortunately this is old hat for UCONN fans....but it does mean one thing...if you constantly talk about our HC that means you constantly talk about our program. Not a bad accomplishment considering UCONN is heading into year 2 in HE and is still 3 scholarships behind everyone else. There isn't anything Chuck or anyone else can say about UCONN that hasn't already been said by a Syracuse fan.

Ha ha love it! Actually we really don't spend much time talking about the Huskies...unless we've just eliminated you out of HE play ;) As of late, noticed some moves on your part and some decent pickups player wise you've managed (which I don't wanna discuss if it's ok with you :p)

Like I said, kudos to you guys for moving / ratcheting it up. You have to if ya wanna succeed in this league!! And btw, UNH fans know what it's like to be picked on...it's old hat to even this newcomer. :rolleyes:

Good luck in your season...see ya in Storrs...or Hartford..?
 
Re: UNH Wildcats 2015 Offseason - Future Planning ...or Just Rearranging the Deck Cha

Ha ha love it! Actually we really don't spend much time talking about the Huskies...unless we've just eliminated you out of HE play ;) As of late, noticed some moves on your part and some decent pickups player wise you've managed (which I don't wanna discuss if it's ok with you :p)

Like I said, kudos to you guys for moving / ratcheting it up. You have to if ya wanna succeed in this league!! And btw, UNH fans know what it's like to be picked on...it's old hat to even this newcomer. :rolleyes:

Good luck in your season...see ya in Storrs...or Hartford..?
A friend of mine actually played at UNH from 94-96, a CT kid to boot :D! Good luck to you guys too...As for that Hartford thing...it is a VERY sore subject with me :mad:...
 
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A friend of mine actually played at UNH from 94-96, a CT kid to boot :D! Good luck to you guys too...As for that Hartford thing...it is a VERY sore subject with me :mad:...

Todd Hall - class kid, really good player, caught in "Count" Cedorchuck's numbers game at BC, and landed in UNH's lap. :) Boy I miss those days. Especially the "BC in the basement" part ... :(
 
Re: UNH Wildcats 2015 Offseason - Future Planning ...or Just Rearranging the Deck Cha

Because aspiring to be national champions is ludicrous. Especially from a guy who has won four already. How dare he? Who would want to play for a guy so crazy? "Coach I came here to be mediocre, what gives?"

Told y'all this was coming ... yup, Cav = Belichick, York = Parcells. :rolleyes: The whispering campaign began today.
 
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RE: Cavanaugh. Rookie mistake by a rookie coach.
Clearly likes and expresses support for his former assistant... gets thrown under the bus by some folks.
It's the reason most coach's lips are zipped regarding all subjects. Cavanaugh will learn to zip them up as well.
Then those same folks will be complaining about their 'right to know'. :rolleyes:

But that's not the whole of it. Nobody would complain about expressing support. However, IF the coach-in-waiting thing is true, it's not his news to break. He says he has a good relationship with Dick, and then potentially messes with the dynamics in Dick's office. That won't win him any friends in Durham or around the rest of HE as his peers estimate his level of "trustworthiness."
 
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But that's not the whole of it. Nobody would complain about expressing support. However, IF the coach-in-waiting thing is true, it's not his news to break. He says he has a good relationship with Dick, and then potentially messes with the dynamics in Dick's office. That won't win him any friends in Durham or around the rest of HE as his peers estimate his level of "trustworthiness."
That's the problem with print. You don't know if that comment was in jest, serious, sarcastic... whatever. There is no body language to see, no smile or frown, no eye contact. You have no idea the context of that quote. Neither do I. Only Chuck does. Chuck knows everything. ;)

You may be right, you may be wrong. Rookie head coach... he'll learn.
As for slamming they guy... he's been in Hockey East for 20 years, and you guys are just coming out with this crap? Where ya been?
 
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That's the problem with print. You don't know if that comment was in jest, serious, sarcastic... whatever. There is no body language to see, no smile or frown, no eye contact. You have no idea the context of that quote. Neither do I. Only Chuck does. Chuck knows everything. ;)

You may be right, you may be wrong. Rookie head coach... he'll learn.
As for slamming they guy... he's been in Hockey East for 20 years, and you guys are just coming out with this crap? Where ya been?

That's the joy of being the head guy, you're accountable for it all, the good, the bad, the ugly! :eek:

And yes, In Chuck We Trust. :D:D:D
 
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Mike Souza is now listed as a coach on the UNH website:
http://unhwildcats.com/sports/mice/coaches/index

Hey, Stewie is still second in the left-to-right, up-to-down matrix. At least he's got that going for him. :)

FiveHole12 ... you seem better than falling back on the "maybe it was in jest/sarcasm" defense. Really?? How "funny" would Cav think it was if Buckley's previous employer spilled the beans on his pending hire by UConn, when discussions with the program or university may have been at a sensitive point? Or disclosed certain promises Cav may have made to Buckley that any current assistants might have felt were unfair to their seniority within the UConn program?? Does that *really* sound like a good time to be cracking wise??? :rolleyes:

If Cav was being sarcastic or talking in jest in any of his comments, I'd sincerely hope it was when he was telling the Courant or Chef Jox about how he was spawning the "Luce Canaan coaching tree", or gearing up for a D-1 title in Storrs.

If he wasn't such a ruthless, do-or-say-anything recruiter, I'm sure Coach York would have been rid of him sooner.

This league has needed a new "Walshy" for a decade plus now ... but at least Walshy had a freakin' personality.

Anyway ... hopefully to lighten the mood, I just came across this piece on the best D-1 hockey player I ever saw in person, who just retired a few weeks ago. Having read this, only reaffirms to me this was a truly special player AND person, Martin St. Louis :)

http://changingthegameproject.com/an-uncommon-man-life-lessons-from-a-true-sports-role-model/
 
Hey, Stewie is still second in the left-to-right, up-to-down matrix. At least he's got that going for him. :)

FiveHole12 ... you seem better than falling back on the "maybe it was in jest/sarcasm" defense. Really?? How "funny" would Cav think it was if Buckley's previous employer spilled the beans on his pending hire by UConn, when discussions with the program or university may have been at a sensitive point? Or disclosed certain promises Cav may have made to Buckley that any current assistants might have felt were unfair to their seniority within the UConn program?? Does that *really* sound like a good time to be cracking wise??? :rolleyes:

If Cav was being sarcastic or talking in jest in any of his comments, I'd sincerely hope it was when he was telling the Courant or Chef Jox about how he was spawning the "Luce Canaan coaching tree", or gearing up for a D-1 title in Storrs.

If he wasn't such a ruthless, do-or-say-anything recruiter, I'm sure Coach York would have been rid of him sooner.

This league has needed a new "Walshy" for a decade plus now ... but at least Walshy had a freakin' personality.

Anyway ... hopefully to lighten the mood, I just came across this piece on the best D-1 hockey player I ever saw in person, who just retired a few weeks ago. Having read this, only reaffirms to me this was a truly special player AND person, Martin St. Louis :)

http://changingthegameproject.com/an-uncommon-man-life-lessons-from-a-true-sports-role-model/

Probably my favorite non-Bruin NHL player; I only saw him play once for UVM, in Worcester regional his senior year when they got knocked out by DU, I think. Hard to imagine scoring 273 points in four seasons of Div 1.

My favorite college players have been the short guys, Goumas, Kelleher, Gensler (Bentley).
 
Probably my favorite non-Bruin NHL player; I only saw him play once for UVM, in Worcester regional his senior year when they got knocked out by DU, I think. Hard to imagine scoring 273 points in four seasons of Div 1.

My favorite college players have been the short guys, Goumas, Kelleher, Gensler (Bentley).

Haha throw in that Bentley player 😉. Echo your sentiments on the short players of course I'd add Mattie Willows to the list..Cool that Ty K got an invite to the B's camp. Snively65 bet you are excited for that long awaited UNH v Bentley game!?! 😄 That's at the 'Whitt?
 
Haha throw in that Bentley player 😉. Echo your sentiments on the short players of course I'd add Mattie Willows to the list..Cool that Ty K got an invite to the B's camp. Snively65 bet you are excited for that long awaited UNH v Bentley game!?! 😄 That's at the 'Whitt?

As if Umile ever would agree to play a game at the JAR. But, there are three other non-AHA teams coming to play at the JAR this season, which is a first.
 
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