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UNH Wildcats - 2011 Playoff Quest

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yeah yeah.. don't get down on UNH. It's merely the post-season and well "they had a fabulous regular season and they really tried"

Same old story...

Yes they were stoned by a better goaltender, but as always in the postseason they couldn't finish, at times (entire 2nd period) looked lackluster.. Powerplay was HORRENDOUS.. The shortie is one thing, but going 2 and 3 pp w/ barely a shot.. Which, for those following UNH hockey know this is something that typically happens EVERY postseason - I'm sure it has nothing to do with the coaching and style being exploited when it happens EVERY postseason.

Oh well... it's come to be expected and looking forward to another "good" effort next week as they do the 1 and out.
 
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Anyone seriously down on UNH's overall performance tonight is out of their mind.
Sislo is to blame pour dat goale. Dey teach Squirts dat you dont geeve up da pucke at you own blue line or d'offensive blue line, you do in iddure plaice et it get transitioned down you thoat. It Hockey 101. Get it out of da zone, get it into da zone - 8 year olds no dat. He looked like e was at puck et stick, 2mph, standing straight up and down, what in da ell was he tinking, seriously?

Et at dis level it da leetle tings dat seperate wiining et losing.

So they give up da pucke at d'blue line, in March.

Et dat's what we get pour a Powure Play apres 6 months of working on it? Really?

Et do dey really only ave da one forecheck, dat dey used to no effect all laste nite?

Et do da forwards no dey can go in da slote? It not against da rules. Do dey dare?

Et really, you gonna let a forward stande rite in fronte of you goalie, behind a line of 3 defenders? Speeking of Hockey 101, since when it ok to let an opposing playeur be da closest guy on d'ice to you goalie? Et you dont even TRY to move him?
(Blake (-3) Kessel being one of dos 3)

Et Cannata was good, mais e wasnt dealing wit much good sniping. I like Moses mais e need to worke on da finishing. Cannata gave him da top corneur et Moses hit him in da shouldure, more dan once. A guy like Atkinson put dat up undure da cross bar not off da goalie shouldure, mulitple times. It was da shot not da save da prevented da goal.

Mais aving sayed all dat, da betteur team winned. Betteur talente et betteur execution, et betteur systems. Now I wondeur who dat pointe to, eh?
 
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Et d'efforte...I can picture 3-4 play, amongs many more dat appened, where d'UNHs playeur circled et glided afture da puck. Uh, non, ok, non, dat not how you play a playoff game. If you wanna say you cared et you wanna say you leaved it all out on da ice den dont glide around out dere. 95% of da time when a team raise its game et start to dominate its cuz da skating, dey...moving...dey...feet, all da time, even when d'udder guy 15 feet away you go at him. Sure 9 time outta 10 it a loste cause mais dat 1 time outta 10....da guy catch an edge ou da pucke bounce on he stick, et you dere to get it only UNHs wasn't der to get it, dey still gliding alonge, mon Dieu...you only out der pour 45 seconde, how bout you worke, eh? You saving youself pour d'bus ride home? Not da big circle, not da gliding, not da reaching out to tap da guy wit you stick once da pucke is gone. Move you feet, skate tru da guy, finish you check - more Hockey 101, dat UNHs almost neveur do...
 
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Near the end of the game, the Merrimack crowd was chanting "We Want BC!" Maybe ought to be careful what you wish for.

Well, if the MC-UNH tilt had been the early game, maybe they'd have chanted "We Want Northeastern". I'm sure NU fans would point out that this would also be something to be careful about wishing for, as NU has elevated its play recently, and Merrimack's record against both teams was the same. In fact, NU at least pushed MC to OT in the last loss, whereas the MC-BC series was so long ago it feels like another season.

I've no doubt that this MC team does, in fact, want to play BC and nobody else. The 2-3-4 teams this season were all pretty close. They were better than BU and UNH head to head in the regular season, and took Maine in the quarterfinals two games to none. Looking at the record against the better teams in the league, and the three playoff games so far, I think it's fair to say that Merrimack is at least the second-best team in Hockey East right now. They lost out on the opportunity to finish 2nd because of the three losses while Da Costa was out injured, but now they've shown it in the playoffs.

To have a chance to be the best you have to play the best. If, for instance, NU had beaten BC and then MC had beaten Northeastern, I'm sure plenty of league watchers would have put a big asterisk next to Merrimack's win: *did not have to play BC. (Which doesn't mean I wasn't rooting for the Huskies, of course.)

No matter who wins the title game, now, there will be no asterisk, and no doubt that the championship game featured the two teams in the league playing their best at the end of the season.
 
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I've no doubt that this MC team does, in fact, want to play BC and nobody else. The 2-3-4 teams this season were all pretty close.

In record, yes, but honestly, I think BC is head and shoulders above the pack, MC is clearly next, and BU and UNH are probably a few steps down, probably similar, really. UNH hasn't beaten anyone since November, and really only won 2 games this year against teams worth a **** (Miami, the 2nd game of the year and BC in early Nov). We got the 2 best teams in the league in the championship game, can't really feel too bad about that, though I was hoping for an upset last night...
 
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Et d'efforte...I can picture 3-4 play, amongs many more dat appened, where d'UNHs playeur circled et glided afture da puck. Uh, non, ok, non, dat not how you play a playoff game. If you wanna say you cared et you wanna say you leaved it all out on da ice den dont glide around out dere. 95% of da time when a team raise its game et start to dominate its cuz da skating, dey...moving...dey...feet, all da time, even when d'udder guy 15 feet away you go at him. Sure 9 time outta 10 it a loste cause mais dat 1 time outta 10....da guy catch an edge ou da pucke bounce on he stick, et you dere to get it only UNHs wasn't der to get it, dey still gliding alonge, mon Dieu...you only out der pour 45 seconde, how bout you worke, eh? You saving youself pour d'bus ride home? Not da big circle, not da gliding, not da reaching out to tap da guy wit you stick once da pucke is gone. Move you feet, skate tru da guy, finish you check - more Hockey 101, dat UNHs almost neveur do...
Case in point: DeSimone off side on Kessel's 100 foot non-goal. His feet were not moving.
 
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I guess it goes without saying - a discouraging end to the semifinal game. The third goal just killed UNH. With DiGi making the initial save and then he and 2 defenseman protecting the net, it's amazing the puck went in. I think it bounced off one of the UNH guys. Oh well. UNH had several quality shots on goal in the second and third period but just couldn't get it past Cannata. A little surprising given how shaky he looked on the first several shots on goal in the first period.

The Moses-Borisenok-Goumas played terrific - again. I overheard an NU fan sitting behind me say at one point "They should take the first line off and put the Moses line out there." I thought the Thompson-DeSimone-Sislo line played above average but not great. They got there chances against the Da Costa line without success (understatement).

Near the end of the game, the Merrimack crowd was chanting "We Want BC!" Maybe ought to be careful what you wish for.

The only silver lining - and it is admittedly pretty thin - is that UNH got to prepare for the NCAA Regionals playing an actual game against a competitive team. That's better than the last two seasons when they only got an intersquad scrimmage in during the off week. Here's hoping that the planets align and UNH makes it into the upcoming dance in Manchester. I'd like to see this group of seniors play one more time.

PS - Really enjoyed meeting "goblue". Showed me a picture of his 2-year-old grandson in a UNH jersey - 2028 UNH Recruit.;)

It was great to meet you as well, "Clark". I'll be back again tonight, and at the VC next weekend.

(Snively65 -- we ended up downstairs at the BBW, and I walked upstairs around 4:30 to look for UNH fans, but didn't really spot any. We're going to the Fours pregame today -- have never been, so I'm not sure where we'll be there.)
 
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Yes, it looks like BC may "see" UNH in Manchvegas, and I hope that we get to play you there, too. Looks like UNH may just barely hold onto their 3 seed, which will save BC a trip to St. Louis.

Edit: whoops, I just ran a bunch of scenarios on the pwr predictor that has UNH dropping to a 4-seed, so looks like maybe St. Louis for BC. And, according to Priceless, if all the favorites win on Saturday night, the Manchvegas regional would have UNH facing Miami in game 1 and Merrimack facing Western Michigan in game 2 next Friday night.
Snively65 -- we didn't meet up at BBW. I'll be back at the game tonight, and we're supposed to go to the Fours pregame.

Regarding next weekend, I'll be at the VC, but the games are Saturday the 26th and Sunday the 27th, not starting on Friday, as you wrote above.
 
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After digesting the game I find it humorous to think about my prediction that "if we score 4, we win." What a joke, to think that this team, facing off against a team like Merrimack (never mind BC), could put four in. We had three PP chances last night. On the first we gave up a shortie, courtesy of the first line. On the one in the second period, we couldn't even get the puck over the blue line! Sislo's post game comments were basically right on, something to the effect that you have to score in these special teams situations if you expect to win. Well, Mike, you are the captain, you are skating on a line with the HE POY and with another 40 point scorer. What are you going to do about it? Turn the puck over for goal? Check! Fail to get the puck into the zone, never mind get a shot on net? Check again!

I think back to other Players of the Year we have had in the recent past (and doesn't it say something about the program that we produce these guys?), Butler, Saviano, Haydar, and the lines they played on and how they led teams to great performances if not victory. I saw none of that last night. All the energy last night came from the second line, not the first. Now I have nothing against those three guys, they skate hard, check hard, and create opportunities (especially Moses) for themselves. But none of them are as gifted, both skill wise and size wise, as Thompson. None of them have a shot like Sislo's, and none of them (maybe Moses) can carry the puck like DeSimone. But the second line forces themselves to areas and makes the other team react. Last night was not the first time this season that I saw the first line do just the opposite. No energy, no grit, nothing in Andy Brickley's "dirty areas."

A week from tonight they will surely be playing again, most likely against an at-large team from either the CCHA or ECAC. Can I make a request guys? Force the action, make the team react to you, dictate the pace of the game. Anything less and you are selling yourself, your teammates, and the fans short.
 
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Sislo is to blame pour dat goale. Dey teach Squirts dat you dont geeve up da pucke at you own blue line or d'offensive blue line, you do in iddure plaice et it get transitioned down you thoat. It Hockey 101. Get it out of da zone, get it into da zone - 8 year olds no dat. He looked like e was at puck et stick, 2mph, standing straight up and down, what in da ell was he tinking, seriously?

Et at dis level it da leetle tings dat seperate wiining et losing.

So they give up da pucke at d'blue line, in March.

Et dat's what we get pour a Powure Play apres 6 months of working on it? Really?

Et do dey really only ave da one forecheck, dat dey used to no effect all laste nite?

Et do da forwards no dey can go in da slote? It not against da rules. Do dey dare?

Et really, you gonna let a forward stande rite in fronte of you goalie, behind a line of 3 defenders? Speeking of Hockey 101, since when it ok to let an opposing playeur be da closest guy on d'ice to you goalie? Et you dont even TRY to move him?
(Blake (-3) Kessel being one of dos 3)

Et Cannata was good, mais e wasnt dealing wit much good sniping. I like Moses mais e need to worke on da finishing. Cannata gave him da top corneur et Moses hit him in da shouldure, more dan once. A guy like Atkinson put dat up undure da cross bar not off da goalie shouldure, mulitple times. It was da shot not da save da prevented da goal.

Mais aving sayed all dat, da betteur team winned. Betteur talente et betteur execution, et betteur systems. Now I wondeur who dat pointe to, eh?
You know, Jack Rabbit, there may be some profound and useful insight behind what you write, but honestly, it takes way to long to try and translate your frenglish into something more easily readable.

However, to answer your last question, I'm guessing, and to quote you, "da betteur team"?
 
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Anyone seriously down on UNH's overall performance tonight is out of their mind. The difference in the game was the shorthanded goal...

Besides the stellar play of Cannata, I thought the difference in last night's game was that UNH seemed willing to have MC control the puck along the boards in the UNH end, unencumbered by UNH players (who again played their "no hitting" style.) UNH's strategy appeared to be one of waiting for the errant pass from the boards into the slot/high slot, and that UNH would pick it off and transition into the MC end. Well, that didn't work so well, did it? And MC's strategy was to battle UNH for control of the puck along the boards in its defensive end and quickly clear it, or to impede UNH's play in the neutral zones. And let's not even use the word "power" in UNH's 'man advantage situations'. MC had all the power last night. I hope they can create the same kind of mayhem for BC, but I suspect York will have an answer that UNH couldn't come up with.
 
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After digesting the game I find it humorous to think about my prediction that "if we score 4, we win." What a joke, to think that this team, facing off against a team like Merrimack (never mind BC), could put four in. We had three PP chances last night. On the first we gave up a shortie, courtesy of the first line. On the one in the second period, we couldn't even get the puck over the blue line! Sislo's post game comments were basically right on, something to the effect that you have to score in these special teams situations if you expect to win. Well, Mike, you are the captain, you are skating on a line with the HE POY and with another 40 point scorer. What are you going to do about it? Turn the puck over for goal? Check! Fail to get the puck into the zone, never mind get a shot on net? Check again!

I think back to other Players of the Year we have had in the recent past (and doesn't it say something about the program that we produce these guys?), Butler, Saviano, Haydar, and the lines they played on and how they led teams to great performances if not victory. I saw none of that last night. All the energy last night came from the second line, not the first. Now I have nothing against those three guys, they skate hard, check hard, and create opportunities (especially Moses) for themselves. But none of them are as gifted, both skill wise and size wise, as Thompson. None of them have a shot like Sislo's, and none of them (maybe Moses) can carry the puck like DeSimone. But the second line forces themselves to areas and makes the other team react. Last night was not the first time this season that I saw the first line do just the opposite. No energy, no grit, nothing in Andy Brickley's "dirty areas."

A week from tonight they will surely be playing again, most likely against an at-large team from either the CCHA or ECAC. Can I make a request guys? Force the action, make the team react to you, dictate the pace of the game. Anything less and you are selling yourself, your teammates, and the fans short.

I agree with the content of your first 2 paragraphs. As to the third, I'd change it to "Anything less and it will be another frustrating, last game of the season for you."
 
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Jacques ....I agree with "goblue" in finding your posts insightful .... and actually enjoy the translation effort. By the way it looks like the outsiders are also becoming more visible in moaning about UNH's post-season performance history e.g.Meloni at CHN.
 
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That was a supremely frustrating game last night. Just painful to watch. Some say we shouldn't question the effort, but I have to ask what game they were watching. That wasn't just a "hot goalie". UNH's power play looked terrible, and even-strength wasn't much better. Midway through the first period, the game fell into a very predictable pattern: Merrimack sustains pressure in the UNH zone, UNH manages to get the puck, clear it, bring it into the MC zone, and turn it over (broken up occasionally by DeSimone getting a partial break and showing off his stick skill by carrying the puck past the net before shooting). By the third, the team was standing around watching the puck more than going after it.

The fact that it was 2-1 after two is a testament to how well Digi played. Had UNH managed to come back at that point and win, I think you'd have to say MC "ran into a hot goalie". The way it turned out though, I think it's more than that. Merrimack thoroughly beat UNH.

This team should make the NCAA's (I think other results last night pushed them up off the bubble), but if they play like this, they're not going anywhere. And, I don't think I'll be all that surprised, as this is simply not as good a UNH team as we've seen in the past. I think that 2009 team would crush this team, especially if they played in "tournament mode" (to steal a Providence expression).

The third goal just killed UNH. With DiGi making the initial save and then he and 2 defenseman protecting the net, it's amazing the puck went in.
It might have helped if those 2 (I thought it was 3, actually) weren't flopping around in the crease. Might have been better for one, or more, of them to stay on their feet and actually defend the play. Sheer and utter panic on that play, and it was more embarrassing than the SHG, or the fact that our players apparently watched a rules video from women's hockey, as they avoid body contact like no team I've ever seen. We all say BC plays a similar style, reliant on speed and finesse, and not as much on physical play, but I'm pretty sure even their players finish their checks more often than UNH. Even more frustrating, is that UNH seems to pass up the opportunity to hit in order to go after the puck, but the other team still ends up with it.

The Moses-Borisenok-Goumas played terrific - again. I overheard an NU fan sitting behind me say at one point "They should take the first line off and put the Moses line out there."
I like this line a lot, and am looking forward to seeing them develop next year.

Near the end of the game, the Merrimack crowd was chanting "We Want BC!"
Kind of a silly chant, as BC had already won. It's not like they have and option.

In record, yes, but honestly, I think BC is head and shoulders above the pack, MC is clearly next, and BU and UNH are probably a few steps down, probably similar, really. UNH hasn't beaten anyone since November, and really only won 2 games this year against teams worth a **** (Miami, the 2nd game of the year and BC in early Nov). We got the 2 best teams in the league in the championship game, can't really feel too bad about that, though I was hoping for an upset last night...
You call Merrimack the 2nd best team in HEA, but they're not a team that "worth a ****"? Hard to believe after the last three games against them, but UNH beat MC right after Thanksgiving. Not disputing anything else in your post, just want to make sure you're being consistent.
 
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After digesting the game I find it humorous to think about my prediction that "if we score 4, we win." What a joke, to think that this team, facing off against a team like Merrimack (never mind BC), could put four in.

Just a perspective from an "outsider." Let me first preface this by saying that I was unable to attend (last minute problem), but this is what it seemed like on TV, at least. It was very "perplexing" to me to see UNH play with seemingly such little effort. Yes, I suppose you can attribute some of that to Merrimack's "style of play," but as you said, UNH has to show more grit and force the action - assert their will. You might even say, to use an ole cliche, that Merrimack "wanted it more." Either way, it's hard to understand how a team who dominates the league (and I know they have been tailing off lately) for most of the season can put in a performance like last night's. At least you have a second chance, but it still must be disappointing. It's rare to be able to just "turn it on" if you haven't been playing well. Perhaps the atmosphere in Manchester will "rejuvenate" the Wildcats - let's hope so. It just reminds me of what many on the BU thread have been complaining about all year - why the (insert responsible party here) can't seem to get the maximum production out of the purported talent that exists on the roster. I guess you might say (if you really want to grasp) that the atmosphere in the building seemed dead (at least it did on TV - and one can usually tell when it's really "rocking"). That's one of the problems with playing in the second game, which used to be the "feature" game back in the day until someone decided that the #1 seed should start playing first to get "rest." The problem with this is that half the crowd leaves (especially last night, where I understand NU had a big crowd but most of them left after they lost - especially since there's no 2nd chance for them - their season is over). There is some validity to this (not to use it as an excuse) - I remember 2008 when UNH and BC played three overtimes. I think the BU/Vermont game started somewhere around 10:30. There were probably around 2000 fans left, there was no energy, and the Vermont style put everyone (who already wasn't) to sleep, and BU came up with a dreadful performance. I'm sure you're disappointed and I can certainly empathize...I just don't know the answers!!
 
Jacques ....I agree with "goblue" in finding your posts insightful .... and actually enjoy the translation effort. By the way it looks like the outsiders are also becoming more visible in moaning about UNH's post-season performance history e.g.Meloni at CHN.
I thought canatta saved there Bacon, it was an even game. Thought unh had better quality scoring chances , yes unh looked lethargic but most of that can be attributed to Macks boring trap style which incidentally gives unh fits.
 
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I like this line a lot, and am looking forward to seeing them develop next year.
I also find myself already thinking towards next year and this line, the current sophomores who did not slump this year, a solid freshman class including defense men who did not play in games and from casual perusal of the recruits thread a decent incoming class.

My bar for UNH is to finish top 4 in HE, win the HE 1st round series, qualify for the NCAAs. This makes us a top league team and top 15 national team. Depending on the 1st round opponent, winning a 1st round NCAA game, making us a top 10 national team, may or may not be part of the bar. Anything more is an over the bar bonus.

The frustration with this year's team is a perceived lack of consistency/effort/desire. If the first line played with the desire of the second... if PT back checked like Cam Atkinson, if the team went after it like Northeastern, if Sislo played every shift with intensity like Brian Gibbons...

I watched on TV last night. After the second period NESN displayed a minutes played graphic. Kessel and Kostolansky were close to 18 with PT, Sislo close behind. Maybe the desire and effort is hard to find when you are tired as someone else suggested.
 
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