Re: UNH Wildcats - '10 Playoff Edition
Nice....always funny to look back. Even more fun to make predictions
Nice....always funny to look back. Even more fun to make predictions
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UNH Wildcats - '10 Playoff Edition
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Re: UNH Wildcats - '10 Playoff Edition
Wow, a UVM fan patronizing UNH fans. Precious. UNH will win a banner before UVM will.
Wow, a UVM fan patronizing UNH fans. Precious. UNH will win a banner before UVM will.
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"Little"? RIT has more undergrads, more graduate students, and a larger endowment than UNH.
Powers &8^]
"Little"? RIT has more undergrads, more graduate students, and a larger endowment than UNH.
Powers &8^]
Re: UNH Wildcats - '10 Playoff Edition
Here's another article about Bobby Butler's signing...Congrats to him
http://www.telegram.com/article/20100329/NEWS/3290441/1009/rss01&source=rss
Here's another article about Bobby Butler's signing...Congrats to him
http://www.telegram.com/article/20100329/NEWS/3290441/1009/rss01&source=rss
tangledupinblue
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Okay here we go . First off : Who we gonna get for a new coach? Let's see- Parker , Sneddon ,Dennehy,York(if BC doesn't win the whole thing)? I know- maybe the Denver,North Dakota, or Cornell coach? Maybe a "Greasy Mullet"(he should be unemployed next year if ESPN has any sense).How about Whitehead? COME ON PEOPLE ! The only thing our coaching staff could have done Saturday was to lace up and go out on the ice themselves.Our passing game was not good from the get-go. Passes were too hot- not flat and tape to tape. As a coach what the hell are you supposed to do about that? Credit RIT. They saw something they could exploit .Looked like our game behind our own net was one thing they saw they might take advantage of. Second: Bobby B. is going to be missed for his obvious talent and for his 60 minute effort in every game I saw this year.A great leader!I think Blake H. Kessel and either Sislo,DeSimone or Thompson would be good to wear a "C "next year.Third:If some of the "so-called fans" that held season tickets this year had shown up for the QF's against UVM a bus for real fans might have had more consideration.Again, credit RIT for one of the best showing of fans I've ever seen at a Regional. I know they're only an hour or so away-still impressive.Funny thing -I asked an RIT fan who he wanted to win after they beat DU and he didn't know who was playing next.Fourth: It seems as though the best keepers in the country didn't fare well in Albany.( A comment for anyone that wants to lay any blame on Brian). Last thought (for now):Good Luck to all our seniors!May God bless and keep you always .May your wishes all come true. May you stay Forever Young .As for me- I will always be TANGLEDUPINBLUE.
Okay here we go . First off : Who we gonna get for a new coach? Let's see- Parker , Sneddon ,Dennehy,York(if BC doesn't win the whole thing)? I know- maybe the Denver,North Dakota, or Cornell coach? Maybe a "Greasy Mullet"(he should be unemployed next year if ESPN has any sense).How about Whitehead? COME ON PEOPLE ! The only thing our coaching staff could have done Saturday was to lace up and go out on the ice themselves.Our passing game was not good from the get-go. Passes were too hot- not flat and tape to tape. As a coach what the hell are you supposed to do about that? Credit RIT. They saw something they could exploit .Looked like our game behind our own net was one thing they saw they might take advantage of. Second: Bobby B. is going to be missed for his obvious talent and for his 60 minute effort in every game I saw this year.A great leader!I think Blake H. Kessel and either Sislo,DeSimone or Thompson would be good to wear a "C "next year.Third:If some of the "so-called fans" that held season tickets this year had shown up for the QF's against UVM a bus for real fans might have had more consideration.Again, credit RIT for one of the best showing of fans I've ever seen at a Regional. I know they're only an hour or so away-still impressive.Funny thing -I asked an RIT fan who he wanted to win after they beat DU and he didn't know who was playing next.Fourth: It seems as though the best keepers in the country didn't fare well in Albany.( A comment for anyone that wants to lay any blame on Brian). Last thought (for now):Good Luck to all our seniors!May God bless and keep you always .May your wishes all come true. May you stay Forever Young .As for me- I will always be TANGLEDUPINBLUE.
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Havent had chance to explore the threads below , i will , the only difference i saw , FRI night unh beat cornell to the pucks , sat night RIT beat unh to the pucks . for whatever reason unh had a game plan for cornell but not for RIT . Im not certain whether unh can execute for 2 full games . who do you blame , its a focus isue but at this level there is no excuse , do you blame the coaches ,do you blame the capt's . next how many times have we seen lackluster efforts in the ncaa's , seems like every year with the exception of last year . I can tell you how many blow outs ive seen over the years , other teams dont seem to suffer the same fate. Yes its a credit to the program to make it every year ( 9 years and counting ) but that doesnt cut it . Is it UNH wins most of there games on the large sheet ( because teams arnt adept at spreading out the surface) and there just an avg team on normal rinks , afterall unh builds there team around the large sheet .
Sure you can say there passes were off or they missed the net or hit some pipes but you no what that stuff happens and you have no control over it , but what you can control is the effort .
Havent had chance to explore the threads below , i will , the only difference i saw , FRI night unh beat cornell to the pucks , sat night RIT beat unh to the pucks . for whatever reason unh had a game plan for cornell but not for RIT . Im not certain whether unh can execute for 2 full games . who do you blame , its a focus isue but at this level there is no excuse , do you blame the coaches ,do you blame the capt's . next how many times have we seen lackluster efforts in the ncaa's , seems like every year with the exception of last year . I can tell you how many blow outs ive seen over the years , other teams dont seem to suffer the same fate. Yes its a credit to the program to make it every year ( 9 years and counting ) but that doesnt cut it . Is it UNH wins most of there games on the large sheet ( because teams arnt adept at spreading out the surface) and there just an avg team on normal rinks , afterall unh builds there team around the large sheet .
Sure you can say there passes were off or they missed the net or hit some pipes but you no what that stuff happens and you have no control over it , but what you can control is the effort .
Nick Papagiorgio
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OMG seriously. We have this discussion every year.
This stuff has been happening for the better part of a decade. Who is the constant? The constant in the equation. Mr. Dick Umile. New players constantly coming and going with only 4 years of eligibility.
Do you think it's a coincidence this keeps happening under Umile? Pure coincidence they lose and usually lose BIG TIME a lot of the time to inferior teams?
Is he coaching on the bench to adjust to the game or is he standing there fuming while his team gets Umiliated? The latter is usually what he does (missed the RIT game's first two periods).
I like Dick, he's a nice guy. And I like UNH as well. I don't have much of a care in the world with what UNH does with him as they aren't my team. But let's get real here. He's a RS madman and a postseason sadman.
It keeps coming down to this. Does UNH want to win the big one? If so, Umile is probably not the guy. It is scary to see so many people rationalize how satisfied they are after these meltdowns because they "exceeded expectations" and "accomplished so much this year with the RS title" to pharaphrase.
OMG seriously. We have this discussion every year.
This stuff has been happening for the better part of a decade. Who is the constant? The constant in the equation. Mr. Dick Umile. New players constantly coming and going with only 4 years of eligibility.
Do you think it's a coincidence this keeps happening under Umile? Pure coincidence they lose and usually lose BIG TIME a lot of the time to inferior teams?
Is he coaching on the bench to adjust to the game or is he standing there fuming while his team gets Umiliated? The latter is usually what he does (missed the RIT game's first two periods).
I like Dick, he's a nice guy. And I like UNH as well. I don't have much of a care in the world with what UNH does with him as they aren't my team. But let's get real here. He's a RS madman and a postseason sadman.
It keeps coming down to this. Does UNH want to win the big one? If so, Umile is probably not the guy. It is scary to see so many people rationalize how satisfied they are after these meltdowns because they "exceeded expectations" and "accomplished so much this year with the RS title" to pharaphrase.
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The funniest part of all that was the line "GM Peter Chiarelli confirmed earlier this month the B’s had no interest in signing Bobby Butler."
Yeah, why would the Bruins want HIM? They don't need GOALs, or anything like that, do they? Just like that Phil Kessel guy...
As Bob Lobel used to say, "Why can't WE get players like this???"
The funniest part of all that was the line "GM Peter Chiarelli confirmed earlier this month the B’s had no interest in signing Bobby Butler."
Yeah, why would the Bruins want HIM? They don't need GOALs, or anything like that, do they? Just like that Phil Kessel guy...
As Bob Lobel used to say, "Why can't WE get players like this???"
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I saw a UNH team control the play in the first and find ways not to capitalize on chances: posts, crossbars, missing open nets.
I saw a RIT team in the second change their D style a bit and frustrate UNH. Score a goal get a team on it heals and capitalize on their chances.
It may be a strategy issue at UNH. Look at RITs goals. Down low in the scrum or a smartly timed shot from the point with a screen. Those dirty goals are how you win playoff games and RIT is clearly talented at that. UNH had chances with guys in front but never got the puck in there. UNH need to learn how to have a half ice offense.
As for Umile - watched him coach the players a number of times during time outs, by the middle of the third watching the same mistakes for a period and a half, I can understand annoyed.
I don't think it was an effort problem. I sat in the stands watching that game and I didn't see an effort problem.
I saw a UNH team control the play in the first and find ways not to capitalize on chances: posts, crossbars, missing open nets.
I saw a RIT team in the second change their D style a bit and frustrate UNH. Score a goal get a team on it heals and capitalize on their chances.
It may be a strategy issue at UNH. Look at RITs goals. Down low in the scrum or a smartly timed shot from the point with a screen. Those dirty goals are how you win playoff games and RIT is clearly talented at that. UNH had chances with guys in front but never got the puck in there. UNH need to learn how to have a half ice offense.
As for Umile - watched him coach the players a number of times during time outs, by the middle of the third watching the same mistakes for a period and a half, I can understand annoyed.
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Did that UNH poster infer that RIT had more talent than them and thats why they lost? LOL.
Did that UNH poster infer that RIT had more talent than them and thats why they lost? LOL.
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I think he was saying that they win in the Regular Season and not in the playoffs. Not sure how you can construe that he meant that RIT had more talent...his point seemed to be that when the stakes are ratcheted up, UNH doesn't raise their game. It looked to me as though he was pointing directly at Mr. Umile.
I think he was saying that they win in the Regular Season and not in the playoffs. Not sure how you can construe that he meant that RIT had more talent...his point seemed to be that when the stakes are ratcheted up, UNH doesn't raise their game. It looked to me as though he was pointing directly at Mr. Umile.
Nick Papagiorgio
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Maybe it would be a good idea to wait until he has some success in the NHL level before condeming Chiarelli's desire to not pursue Butler? Don't you think?
Maybe it would be a good idea to wait until he has some success in the NHL level before condeming Chiarelli's desire to not pursue Butler? Don't you think?
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He said something along the lines of Umile should have laced them up and played, inferring they had done everything they could to prepare UNH for that game. If I read it wrong, so be it. That loss is completely on Umile since he clearly spent no time preparing for RIT whatsoever.
He said something along the lines of Umile should have laced them up and played, inferring they had done everything they could to prepare UNH for that game. If I read it wrong, so be it. That loss is completely on Umile since he clearly spent no time preparing for RIT whatsoever.
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I think Butler's NHL success has nothing to do with it - honestly.
Bruins are scoring deficient and up against the cap to sign a high end NHL experienced talent. At a minimum try to sign a kid out of college that has been successful scorer and see what you get. At worst you ship him to the minors and the numbers don't hit your NHL cap. For me this is a short money no brainer for a chance at some much needed scoring. Low risk high potential reward.
Based on the total lack of strategy I think Chiarelli should be condemned on this one.
I think Butler's NHL success has nothing to do with it - honestly.
Bruins are scoring deficient and up against the cap to sign a high end NHL experienced talent. At a minimum try to sign a kid out of college that has been successful scorer and see what you get. At worst you ship him to the minors and the numbers don't hit your NHL cap. For me this is a short money no brainer for a chance at some much needed scoring. Low risk high potential reward.
Based on the total lack of strategy I think Chiarelli should be condemned on this one.
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I agree , im amazed how he cant rev up his teams , they lacked all the ingredients , got beat to the pucks all night , there is no excuse for that . the one thing the players have control over is effort, didnt play inspired passionate hockey .last nights game yale vs BC would be a perfect example, moreover, it looked to me RIT made some adjustments (glogging up the zone . ie vermont ) halfway through the 1st period , do you think umile offered any stradegy.
I agree , im amazed how he cant rev up his teams , they lacked all the ingredients , got beat to the pucks all night , there is no excuse for that . the one thing the players have control over is effort, didnt play inspired passionate hockey .last nights game yale vs BC would be a perfect example, moreover, it looked to me RIT made some adjustments (glogging up the zone . ie vermont ) halfway through the 1st period , do you think umile offered any stradegy.
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I'm a Merrimack fan, but besides Maine, UNH has always been my team to root for come HE Tourney time and NCAA Tourney. I've always respected Coach Umile and the program dating back to the late 80s when I started following.
Personally, I'd have rather played at a UNH, BU or Maine where you are first on the priority list than at BC where football and hoops take precedent. However, many young recruits obviously don't feel the same way. All the prospects seem to go to the name schools now - that have national exposure in other sports. Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Minnesota, Michigan, BC. Obviously, North Dakota, BU, and Denver seem to be the exceptions. Even UNH has gotten some top tier players in JVR, Conklin, etc.
That being said, I cannot understand some UNH fan's disdain for Coach Umile. He has consistently won more than 20 games (a few exceptions). The Wildcats have been NCAA Tournament bound almost every year since 1995. They have produced All-Americans, a few guys have gone on to the NHL, a few have become coaches in HS or college.
Let me ask UNH fans a serious question, what NCAA programs would you rather call your allegiance to or what programs are you jealous of? From a neutral observer, the only programs UNH can be jealous of are BC, BU, Maine, Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Denver, North Dakota, and Minnesota.
No other team has won a NCAA championship since 1994 (the last LSSU title). No other teams have consistently produced similar results without post-season success like UNH (maybe Colorado College).
UNH plays in a great building, a great atmosphere (used to be better), wins 20 games almost every year, NCAA tournament bound almost every year. You can follow some of your ex-players in the NHL.
I can see your frustration, but Dick Umile is an alum. He is working his butt off to win a NCAA championship, and I can guarantee you he wants it more than any of you. He is not some outsider. I believe he deserves the admiration of the UNH faithful.
I'm a Merrimack fan, but besides Maine, UNH has always been my team to root for come HE Tourney time and NCAA Tourney. I've always respected Coach Umile and the program dating back to the late 80s when I started following.
Personally, I'd have rather played at a UNH, BU or Maine where you are first on the priority list than at BC where football and hoops take precedent. However, many young recruits obviously don't feel the same way. All the prospects seem to go to the name schools now - that have national exposure in other sports. Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Minnesota, Michigan, BC. Obviously, North Dakota, BU, and Denver seem to be the exceptions. Even UNH has gotten some top tier players in JVR, Conklin, etc.
That being said, I cannot understand some UNH fan's disdain for Coach Umile. He has consistently won more than 20 games (a few exceptions). The Wildcats have been NCAA Tournament bound almost every year since 1995. They have produced All-Americans, a few guys have gone on to the NHL, a few have become coaches in HS or college.
Let me ask UNH fans a serious question, what NCAA programs would you rather call your allegiance to or what programs are you jealous of? From a neutral observer, the only programs UNH can be jealous of are BC, BU, Maine, Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Denver, North Dakota, and Minnesota.
No other team has won a NCAA championship since 1994 (the last LSSU title). No other teams have consistently produced similar results without post-season success like UNH (maybe Colorado College).
UNH plays in a great building, a great atmosphere (used to be better), wins 20 games almost every year, NCAA tournament bound almost every year. You can follow some of your ex-players in the NHL.
I can see your frustration, but Dick Umile is an alum. He is working his butt off to win a NCAA championship, and I can guarantee you he wants it more than any of you. He is not some outsider. I believe he deserves the admiration of the UNH faithful.
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It will never happen unless the team is suddenly a Frozen Four contender every year again. Then the bandwagon will fill up.
I've said it before, but hockey has become a social event at UNH. The students are not there to support the team; they are there to BE SEEN at hockey.
Take these self-described "Best Fans" face painters for example. Where were they vs Vermont? Yeah, Spring Break started that Saturday, so obviously we can't expect such great fans to show up.
I also didn't see these guys either night in Albany.
There WAS a group on Saturday in Albany who yelled at the Hosers for not being supportive enough. This is a group I've never seen at the Whitt, except for one guy who shows up to Club Hockey games, screams "YOU SUCK" for a period and then leaves. Aside from the fact that they were absent on Friday, when RIT scored their 5th goal, these guys went RACING for the exits.
I usually stand at the top of the student section behind the band. I can't count how often I see kids show up halfway through the 1st and walk down the section expecting to find seats. That last pregame beer was more important than showing up in a timely manner to get seats.
I can't count how many times I've seen students leave in the middle of the 2nd period, or in the 2nd intermission, telling friends that they have to get to a party or "play Rut."
Students these days are more interested in making an appearance and killing time until parties start on Fridays and Saturdays. They're more interested in cursing and being vulgar in public because they think it's funny....er, I mean exercising their 1st Amendment rights. Yeah, that's the ticket.
I'm hoping things change, and I have some ideas I'd like to try for next year, but I'm not counting on the student section unless the team becomes dominant again and/or it becomes "popular" to be seen as part of a particular cheering section.
It will never happen unless the team is suddenly a Frozen Four contender every year again. Then the bandwagon will fill up.
I've said it before, but hockey has become a social event at UNH. The students are not there to support the team; they are there to BE SEEN at hockey.
Take these self-described "Best Fans" face painters for example. Where were they vs Vermont? Yeah, Spring Break started that Saturday, so obviously we can't expect such great fans to show up.
I also didn't see these guys either night in Albany.There WAS a group on Saturday in Albany who yelled at the Hosers for not being supportive enough. This is a group I've never seen at the Whitt, except for one guy who shows up to Club Hockey games, screams "YOU SUCK" for a period and then leaves. Aside from the fact that they were absent on Friday, when RIT scored their 5th goal, these guys went RACING for the exits.
I usually stand at the top of the student section behind the band. I can't count how often I see kids show up halfway through the 1st and walk down the section expecting to find seats. That last pregame beer was more important than showing up in a timely manner to get seats.
I can't count how many times I've seen students leave in the middle of the 2nd period, or in the 2nd intermission, telling friends that they have to get to a party or "play Rut."
Students these days are more interested in making an appearance and killing time until parties start on Fridays and Saturdays. They're more interested in cursing and being vulgar in public because they think it's funny....er, I mean exercising their 1st Amendment rights. Yeah, that's the ticket.
I'm hoping things change, and I have some ideas I'd like to try for next year, but I'm not counting on the student section unless the team becomes dominant again and/or it becomes "popular" to be seen as part of a particular cheering section.
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I was the reverse tv - Friday (had work commitments I couldn't change), game Saturday.
During the TV time outs I watched Umile coach. You could see him talking to the players. Lassonde and Borek also did some work with players during TV time outs. From that I could see them trying, it just wasn't showing up on the ice.
Why I don't know? But from hand motions you could see them trying to change things. It wasn't just rah, rah and go go yelling.
I was the reverse tv - Friday (had work commitments I couldn't change), game Saturday.
During the TV time outs I watched Umile coach. You could see him talking to the players. Lassonde and Borek also did some work with players during TV time outs. From that I could see them trying, it just wasn't showing up on the ice.
Why I don't know? But from hand motions you could see them trying to change things. It wasn't just rah, rah and go go yelling.
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