UNH Recruits: 2012-2014

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Campbell is in net for Niagara. They are shorthanded at goal. Freshman Carsen Chubak is out for the year with an injury after it seemed he was going to settle in as the starter. Another goalie is off the roster, Andrew Hare, and the only other goalie is junior Chris Noonan. Campbell has done well so far late in the third Niagara on top 5-2 and Campbell with 33 saves so far. If he does well he could settle in as the starter the rest of the season.

Well good for him. In the interviews I've read, he seems like a good kid who had been jerked around a little bit. Stability might be just what he needs.

"In his first collegiate start, Cody looked like a veteran in net," (NIagara Coach) Burkholder said. "Campbell kept us in the game for most of the night, including a stretch where we were outshot 24-13 in the last four minutes of the game."

 

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RECRUIT UPDATE - Week Ending Jan. 9th

2011

Jay Camper (Chicago/USHL) - 28 GP, 7-3-10, 24 PIM

Eric Chevrier (Cushing Academy/NEPrepHC) - 13 GP, 1-9-10.

Casey DeSmith (Indiana Ice/USHL) - 17 GP, 11W-6L, 2.34 GAA, .926 SV%

Grayson Downing (Westside/BCHL) - 35 GP, 24-21-45, 18 PIM

Jamie Hill (Waterloo/USHL) - 27 GP, 5-5-10, 36 PIM

Ryan Randall (NH Jr. Monarchs/EJHL) - 26 GP, 7-12-19, 6 PIM

Kyle Smith (Jr. Bruins/EJHL) - 29 GP, 9-23-32, 8 PIM

Trevor van Riemsdyk (NH Jr. Monarchs/EJHL) - 27 GP, 11-13-24, 14 PIM

2012

Dan Correale (Grand Prairie/AJHL) - 44 GP, 19-35-54, 24 PIM

Maxim Gaudreault (Sioux City/USHL) - 27 GP, 5-5-10, 14 PIM

Casey Thrush (Muskegon/USHL) - 28 GP, 6-6-12, 14 PIM

Mike Vecchione (Malden Catholic HS/Catholic Conf.) - 6 GP, 10-9-19.

2013

Dylan Maller (DC Capitals/North American Prospects Hockey League) - 14 GP, 1-2-3, 2 PIM - Season resumes Jan 14.
(Wooten H.S./Maryland Scholastic Hockey League) - 2 GP, 0-1-1, 4 PIM

Brett Pesce (North Jersey Avalanche/Atlantic Youth Hockey League) - 13 GP, 8-12-20, 8 PIM

2014

Tyler Kelleher (Deerfield Academy/NEPrepFounders) - 11 GP, 7-4-11.

In the BCHL, Grayson Downing is tied for 6th in Total Goals and tied for 4th in Powerplay Goals despite missing 4 games in December (injury) and 4 games in November (World Junior A Challenge).
In the AJHL, Dan Correale is tied for 3rd in Scoring and tied for 1st in assists.
In the USHL, Casey DeSmith is tied for 4th place in Save Percentage and has won 7 straight games.
Also, Maxim Gaudreault got the game winning goal and earned the #1 Star in today's game.
Teams in the EJHL have been idle since Dec 19th and resume on Jan 12th.

 

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Arnie Davis, the Potato Pin man from Alfond Arena is celebrating his 90th birthday this week. I've started a birthday thread in the Cafe. Make sure to post your birthday wishes to one of the few gentlemen from Maine!

 

[RockTheWhit]

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The mid-term Central Scouting Service rankings were released today for this spring's draft. Not a UNH recruit to be found despite a few being talked about as possible draftees. I wonder if UNH is making a conscious effort to focus their attention on kids that go overlooked by the NHL but are locks to stay in school and develop over four years (Butler, Thompson, Sislo) as opposed to the top prospects who might be better their first few years on campus but won't stay four years if they come at all (JVR, Keith Yandle). In looking at the last few national champions, it seems a healthy mix of the two has been most successful.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=67005

 

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Kyle Smith, Trevor van Riemsdyk, and Ryan Randall were named to the Eastern Junior Hockey League's All-Star Team.

 

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The mid-term Central Scouting Service rankings were released today for this spring's draft. Not a UNH recruit to be found despite a few being talked about as possible draftees.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=67005

For the 2011 NHL Entry Draft next June, amateur players born between Dec 31, 1991 and Sept 15, 1993 are eligible. That means that the following UNH recruits are eligible (from oldest to youngest):
Jamie Hill
Kyle Smith
Ryan Randall
Grayson Downing
Casey Thrush
Maxim Gaudreault
Eric Chevrier
Mike Vecchione

Only Chevrier and Vecchione were on the NHL Central Scouting Players to Watch list from Oct 2010. They were listed as "C" Players which means that Central Scouting was tracking them and they had the potential to be drafted after the 5th round. Perhaps the relatively few league games that Chevrier and Vecchione have played worked against them. Mike Vecchione has been lighting it up in Massachusetts High School play so it's difficult to understand why his draft stock has fallen.

Another recruit who had been mentioned in previous NHL Central Scouting lists is Grayson Downing. Last year, he was ranked as #110 among North American players in the midseason list and #144 on the final predraft list. He was not drafted in the June 2010 draft. Downing has been a prolific scorer this season in the British Columbia Hockey League and played very well at the World Junior A Challenge in November. However, his play has not resulted in him being added to the 2011 mid-term list.

Finally, Casey Thrush was ranked #97 on last year's NHL Central Scouting mid-term list and #89 on the Final Rankings, predraft list. He also was not drafted in the 2010 NHL draft. In this, his first season in the USHL, his 6-6-12 totals in 28 games apparently have not attracted the attention of NHL Central Scouting.

 

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Here's an interview with Maxim Gaudreault and the coach of the Sioux City Musketeers regarding his progress in the USHL.

 

[TMHUNH]

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For the 2011 NHL Entry Draft next June, amateur players born between Dec 31, 1991 and Sept 15, 1993 are eligible. That means that the following UNH recruits are eligible (from oldest to youngest):
Jamie Hill
Kyle Smith
Ryan Randall
Grayson Downing
Casey Thrush
Maxim Gaudreault
Eric Chevrier
Mike Vecchione

Only Chevrier and Vecchione were on the NHL Central Scouting Players to Watch list from Oct 2010. They were listed as "C" Players which means that Central Scouting was tracking them and they had the potential to be drafted after the 5th round. Perhaps the relatively few league games that Chevrier and Vecchione have played worked against them. Mike Vecchione has been lighting it up in Massachusetts High School play so it's difficult to understand why his draft stock has fallen.

Another recruit who had been mentioned in previous NHL Central Scouting lists is Grayson Downing. Last year, he was ranked as #110 among North American players in the midseason list and #144 on the final predraft list. He was not drafted in the June 2010 draft. Downing has been a prolific scorer this season in the British Columbia Hockey League and played very well at the World Junior A Challenge in November. However, his play has not resulted in him being added to the 2011 mid-term list.

Finally, Casey Thrush was ranked #97 on last year's NHL Central Scouting mid-term list and #89 on the Final Rankings, predraft list. He also was not drafted in the 2010 NHL draft. In this, his first season in the USHL, his 6-6-12 totals in 28 games apparently have not attracted the attention of NHL Central Scouting.

CHC,

You are cutting your eligibility off a year early there. 91s are still eligible for this years draft too. Guys you excluded like Camper and TVR, although not prime NHL targets by any account, are also still eligible, Along with current players Henrion, Wyer, Goumas, and Sorkin.

 

[C-H-C]

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CHC,

You are cutting your eligibility off a year early there. 91s are still eligible for this years draft too. Guys you excluded like Camper and TVR, although not prime NHL targets by any account, are also still eligible, Along with current players Henrion, Wyer, Goumas, and Sorkin.

Oops - did I interpret the eligibility requirements from NHL.com incorrectly?
I don't think I did - The 2011 Entry Draft, to be held on June 24th and 25th in St. Paul, is for players who will turn 18 by Sept 15, 2011 through players who will turn 20 by Dec 31, 2011. That means players whose birthday is between Dec 31, 1991 and Sept 15, 1993. That covers the birthdays of the group of UNH recruits I identified (I'm pretty sure).

 

[TMHUNH]

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Oops - did I interpret the eligibility requirements from NHL.com incorrectly?

Looks like it. Most players basically go through 3 years of eligibility, in the years they turn 18, 19, and 20. The only exception are the post September 15th DOBs who only get two years of eligibility because they get screwed out of the 3rd year because they still turn 21 by the end of that calendar year, but also have somewhat of an advantage in the first year because they get the extra year of development, usually at higher levels.

 

[C-H-C]

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Oops - did I interpret the eligibility requirements from NHL.com incorrectly?
I don't think I did - The 2011 Entry Draft, to be held on June 24th and 25th in St. Paul, is for players who will turn 18 by Sept 15, 2011 through players who will turn 20 by Dec 31, 2011. That means players whose birthday is between Dec 31, 1991 and Sept 15, 1993. That covers the birthdays of the group of UNH recruits I identified (I'm pretty sure).
For example, check out the 2011 NHL Entry Draft Rankings posted on thehockeywriters.com. All their birthdays are between 12/31/91 and 9/13/93.

 

[TMHUNH]

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Oops - did I interpret the eligibility requirements from NHL.com incorrectly?
I don't think I did - The 2011 Entry Draft, to be held on June 24th and 25th in St. Paul, is for players who will turn 18 by Sept 15, 2011 through players who will turn 20 by Dec 31, 2011. That means players whose birthday is between Dec 31, 1991 and Sept 15, 1993. That covers the birthdays of the group of UNH recruits I identified (I'm pretty sure).

They phrase it kind of whacky there, I see how you got confused. When it says "players who will turn 20 by 12/31" it is indicating those players are inclusive, not inelgible. Meaning you would have to turn 21 by 12/31 (1990 birthdates) to be too old.

Trust me on this one. If you want an example off the top of my head, since I am a Bruins fan, look at Zach Trotman who was the last pick of the draft last year by the B's. August of 90 birthdate. Proof that 91s are fair game a year later.

 

[C-H-C]

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Check out the 2011 NHL Entry Draft Rankings posted on thehockeywriters.com. All their birthdays are between 12/31/91 and 9/13/93 - which applies to the group of UNH recruits I identified.
The oldest draft eligible, UNH recruit is Jamie Hill who was born on Feb 3, 1992. The youngest is Mike Vecchione who was born on Feb 25, 1993.

 

[TMHUNH]

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Check out the 2011 NHL Entry Draft Rankings posted on thehockeywriters.com. All their birthdays are between 12/31/91 and 9/13/93 - which applies to the group of UNH recruits I identified.
The oldest draft eligible, UNH recruit is Jamie Hill who was born on Feb 3, 1992. The youngest is Mike Vecchione who was born on Feb 25, 1993.

Link doesnt come up for me.

I dont mean to turn this into a debate, especially since none of the players you didnt identify would be picked anyway, nor would most anyone in their 3rd year of eligibilty playing anywhere. But just trust that I know what I am talking about on this one.

 

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Link doesnt come up for me.

I dont mean to turn this into a debate, especially since none of the players you didnt identify would be picked anyway, nor would most anyone in their 3rd year of eligibilty playing anywhere. But just trust that I know what I am talking about on this one.

This is the 2011 NHL Entry Draft Rankings from thehockeywriters.com. This isn't a debate - I just want to provide accurate information.

 

[TMHUNH]

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This is the 2011 NHL Entry Draft Rankings from thehockeywriters.com. This isn't a debate - I just want to provide accurate information.

Ok. came up for me now.

Yeah those are the top guys. All those guys are first year eligibles, so they are on the younger end of the eligibility, the older guys that have already been passed over wouldnt go until late in the draft or at all.

For bottom line proof, lets just look at the actual draft as a reference. Here are 3 NCAA players that were picked in round 7 last year:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=116545
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=107626
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=123537

Those 3 are just the first quick examples I found of players picked in their 3rd year of eligibilty. Those were all 1990 born players in the 1992 draft.

I guarantee you the rules haven't changed since last year. With proof of 1990s being picked in 2010, we can then agree on 1991s being eligible in 2011.

 

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Ok. came up for me now.

Yeah those are the top guys. All those guys are first year eligibles, so they are on the younger end of the eligibility, the older guys that have already been passed over wouldnt go until late in the draft or at all.

For bottom line proof, lets just look at the actual draft as a reference. Here are 3 NCAA players that were picked in round 7 last year:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=116545
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=107626
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=123537

Those 3 are just the first quick examples I found of players picked in their 3rd year of eligibilty. Those were all 1990 born players in the 1992 draft.

I guarantee you the rules haven't changed since last year. With proof of 1990s being picked in 2010, we can then agree on 1991s being eligible in 2011.

For clarification, can you identify a player on 2011 Midterm Rankings who has a birthdate outside of the range I've identified? Thanks.

 

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For clarification, can you identify a player on 2011 Midterm Rankings who has a birthdate outside of the range I've identified? Thanks.

Nope.

There probably isn't one. Even prior to this year I cant think of anyone central scouting ranked that was in their third year of eligibility (for North Americans anyway). Central scouting doesnt typically even rank players in their 2nd year of eligibility.

Again, players that have been already passed over in the draft twice, arent considered cant miss prospects. They aren't going to be ranked by central. None of those guys I linked up would have been ranked by central last year either, but some teams still took a late flyer on them in a draft that wasn't very deep.


Edit: Nevermind...lets do this. Here is the preseason players to watch list put out by the same agency (central scouting) for the NCAA. It has a few 91s on there (including Sorkin). This should help identify it for you:
http://centralscouting.nhl.com/link3/cs/content.nsf/0/F79324D882C9D320852577DD00567814/$FILE/NCAA%20PlayersTo%20Watch%20-%20Fall%202010.pdf

 

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Nope.

There probably isn't one. Even prior to this year I cant think of anyone central scouting ranked that was in their third year of eligibility (for North Americans anyway). Central scouting doesnt typically even rank players in their 2nd year of eligibility.

Again, players that have been already passed over in the draft twice, arent considered cant miss prospects. They aren't going to be ranked by central. None of those guys I linked up would have been ranked by central last year either, but some teams still took a late flyer on them in a draft that wasn't very deep.

OK. It would be helpful if NHL.com would post the birthday range for the 2011 Entry Draft.

 

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Edit: Nevermind...lets do this. Here is the preseason players to watch list put out by the same agency (central scouting) for the NCAA. It has a few 91s on there (including Sorkin). This should help identify it for you:
http://centralscouting.nhl.com/link3/cs/content.nsf/0/F79324D882C9D320852577DD00567814/$FILE/NCAA%20PlayersTo%20Watch%20-%20Fall%202010.pdf

I see. The October version of the NHL Central Scouting list didn't include Nick Sorkin but this one clearly does. Thanks for the clarification.