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UNH Men’s Hockey 22-23: the start of something new, or more of the same?

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Well said Dan, I echo your sentiments 100%.

Regarding a fan base that is angry or lashing out, WTH do they expect. Of course I'm angry with the on ice product (disappointed and dissatisfied are probably better adjectives), but certainly don't feel like I am "lashing out". I've been a season ticket holder for 27 years now, am I not allowed to voice my displeasure? But in our new woke world somehow we are not suppose to voice our complaints, criticisms, and frustration, we are only allowed to focus on all the positives (what they hell those are I have not a clue) and be satisfied. If we don't tow the line somehow we get labeled as difficult, uncompassionate, or worse. Give me a break! If I can't come to this message board to express my frustration, where can I? That is the WHOLE POINT of having a forum like this, is to have a place where fans can come to gripe, analyze, critique, cry on a shoulder, celebrate, etc., etc. I wont apologize for being disgusted with the current state of UNH Men's Hockey and won't stop expressing it here.

Lashing out was a poor choice of words - but my intent was to echo your sentiment as well. Fans are going to be disappointed and dissatisfied - and say so. They should say so. Honestly, UNH should be far more worried about fans like me - former die hards who's lives revolved around UNH Hockey in many ways, who no longer have the time or energy to care about something school does not, than fans like yourself who are still passionate about the product. I've spent all my energy trying to make others care about the state of the program, I need what remains for myself and my own program...

I think fans should be able to voice whatever opinions and emotions they're feeling on this board - and the on ice play, and coaching/administrative response, at UNH determines what is said here more than anything else. It raised my eyebrows when there was so much excitement around opening weekend, kudos to those who still have the optimism to buy in to an upswing. I simply do not. I want changes. My investment will sorely lack until those changes are made...

For me, its not a failure to support the student-athletes, its about recognizing how the current student-athletes (and the program at large) are being drastically underserved by the coaches and administrators. I'm certain the kids are doing their best. The adults need to get their act together ASAP...
 
Fantastic posts over the last 24+ hours. Kudos to Dan, norbert, Whalers, et als.

As a secondary issue ... I'm not all that excited about the suggestion to write the AD directly FWIW. In the real world, if I'm running an enterprise, and know there is a place where there is informed discussion from a large segment of my customers, I'm spending the time to mine that information myself - not sit back and wait for them to come to me. Proactive, not reactive.
 
So will be see an inspired effort tonight? UNH will come out hot, get an early PP then falter when they don’t score.

Prediction is 4-1 PC
 
Remember WIS Law of Cupcakes 1.0, e.cat ... if you can't spot the cupcakes on your schedule, then YOU are the cupcake!! St. Lawrence and Army are already in the satchel, and after that, there is UVM I suppose. UMaine split with Quinnipiac this past weekend, so (as predicted) it looks like they've already caught up and passed UNH in only Coach Barr's second season.

The CT River Border Battles look like they should settle the title for '23 HEA Basement Dwellers.

They’ll be in good company with Biden and Fetterman in the basement with them. Haha
 
for me, its not a failure to support the student-athletes, its about recognizing how the current student-athletes (and the program at large) are being drastically underserved by the coaches and administrators. I'm certain the kids are doing their best. The adults need to get their act together asap...

this ^ ^ ^
 
1:38 left in the 3rd PC scores to win the game is my new projection. Winnable game. 30 shots combined is not exciting.
 
Def a winnable game and felt encouraged by our start. I'm sure both coaches will say it wasn't pretty amd we better be ready tomorrow night. Despite our 2 goals there wasn't a whole lot going on.

As per using Erickson heard that he's used him before (thanks DB and others who mentioned it)..
 
This is a game that should have been won. This is a coaching loss. Can't get a feel for the freshman goalie since the total shots was so low. Much better effort but more of the same. But we are on the board for points in HE.

On a side note, was talking to a guy who had tickets next to me who was with AD Rich tonight. There is a fundraising effort coming to continue Whit renovations. This is all back of the house stuff to make recruiting better, which I have heard was an issue from a trustee. Locker rooms, weight rooms, ect. Apparently from his mouth that recruits come in and love the rink and atmosphere (all 2000 people) but the other stuff is a deterrent. He through out a number of $14M which really does not seem like a big amount.

My thought is that the half a percent the governor reduced R&B tax this year would easily cover this amount.

Over under tomorrow when I turn the game off is 5 minutes into the 3rd. Who wants that action for a beer next Saturday upstairs?
 
On a side note, was talking to a guy who had tickets next to me who was with AD Rich tonight. There is a fundraising effort coming to continue Whit renovations. This is all back of the house stuff to make recruiting better, which I have heard was an issue from a trustee. Locker rooms, weight rooms, ect. Apparently from his mouth that recruits come in and love the rink and atmosphere (all 2000 people) but the other stuff is a deterrent. He through out a number of $14M which really does not seem like a big amount.

The biggest "deterrent" to better recruiting is on-ice results, and post-grad professional outlooks for the players. No one in recent memory is emerging from the program as a legitimate NHL prospect, and sure, a lot of that happens on the front end by not getting at the "blue chip" recruits. But the best coaches even get the marginal prospects and make them better players by the time they leave campus and are ready to turn pro. Latest example is Max Gildon, who is now into his 3rd pro season and still can't get onto a top D pairing in the AHL. A more distant example (mostly attributable to MS7's predecessor) is Andrew Poturalski, or arguably even HR's fave Kevin Goumas.

You could tile the locker room walls in gold, install state of the art audio/video and add NFL caliber weight rooms, and it won't change a thing results-wise, I'm afraid. Just more excuses to keep the AD and rest of UNH Admin at bay in hopes that a miraculous turnaround just happens.

Coach MacDonnell turned around Football playing in a cesspool, and THEN they built him a new stadium.

Any further money sunk into the program based on MS7's input should be banked until a real coach is hired.

JMHO.
 
Fantastic posts over the last 24+ hours. Kudos to Dan, norbert, Whalers, et als.

As a secondary issue ... I'm not all that excited about the suggestion to write the AD directly FWIW. In the real world, if I'm running an enterprise, and know there is a place where there is informed discussion from a large segment of my customers, I'm spending the time to mine that information myself - not sit back and wait for them to come to me. Proactive, not reactive.

I dunno...this board isn't exactly humming like it used to be? Surely you don't think this board speaks volumes when there's what, 8 to 10 regular posters and I'm probably overestimating that. Are you waiting for a survey from the U? Still think Admin reads this board? Maybe they do. I highly doubt it though...I have a pretty good idea they know that many fans are not happy with the way things have gone. Whether or not they change it remains to be seen. This stage was set when the U should have made a coaching change when things started to go south. They didn't. They don't fire coaches at UNH and that should be pretty darn plain. Doesn't mean anyone has to be happy about that fact, and doesn't mean you have to accept it either. You make your voice heard when you don't go to games; last night the 'Whitt was pretty empty I thought (save the student section).

What pizzed me off the most when I was teaching was when I'd bring something up to the admin at school, OR, was 'called in' because they heard I had a complaint, I'd get "you are the first to mention this' totally invalidating my concern even though, I had the guts most of the time to make my concern known in proper channels. I never hesitated to say 'lots of people feel this way; they choose not to bring it to your attention but trust me...'. It would be laughable for the admin at the U to say 'oh really? there's an issue with the hockey program not doing well for the past 8 to 10 seasons'? I mean how blind do you have to be. Surely they read their social media; they know there are disgruntled fans who speak up there. (not many, but a few) And if they are choosing to ignore that's terrible and as Dan pointed out, a HUGE disservice to the athletes who chose to play here.

To me letting someone know how you feel about something is the most proactive thing you can do. You have done your part and that's better than putting your thoughts on a message board assuming its being heard by the right people. You might not get the results you want or expect but to me, beats wishing and hoping...

Ps...I don't care where Andrew Poturalski or Kevin Goumas play/have played. They made their mark here and if their NHL aspirations didn't exactly pay off, its ok. And if they did make a splash I'm sure there would be something to malign them with here, re, JvR complaints. You can look through a ton of ECHL/AHL rosters and see plenty of BU, BC, etc players who so far haven't broken into the big league too. I don't think its necessarily a reflection of the program (Frank Vatrano comes to mind he played for UMass as you know and at the time, they weren't exactly tearing it up.
 
So will be see an inspired effort tonight? UNH will come out hot, get an early PP then falter when they don’t score.

Prediction is 4-1 PC

Although some faltering near the end, at least the Cats held on to earn a point before succumbing in the shoot out, which I do not think should be part of the game in Hockey East.

For those who were at the Whitt, were there really 3900 in attendance as noted in the box score?
 
Although some faltering near the end, at least the Cats held on to earn a point before succumbing in the shoot out, which I do not think should be part of the game in Hockey East.

For those who were at the Whitt, were there really 3900 in attendance as noted in the box score?

Well, attendance was def not what it has been I think; lots of empty seats; decent student section tho. Once heard Friday night games are hard for people south of Dham to get to? So maybe the choice is to just watch it on the tube, which is what I plan on doing tonight. In the past would have made the trek to Providence but too far and too much $$ these days to pony up for hotel, gas, etc. My game predict tonight:

PC 4 UNH 1 Fessenden in goal
 
I dunno...this board isn't exactly humming like it used to be? Surely you don't think this board speaks volumes when there's what, 8 to 10 regular posters and I'm probably overestimating that. Are you waiting for a survey from the U? Still think Admin reads this board? Maybe they do. I highly doubt it though...I have a pretty good idea they know that many fans are not happy with the way things have gone. Whether or not they change it remains to be seen.

There are over 14,000 views on the posts on this thread alone, so that's an average of 60 or so hits per post. Yes, like in most forums, there is a smaller segment that is more active, and a larger segment that is "lurking" (not sure if that term is used anymore?). Several might be from fans of other programs, just checking in ... but even if it's only 30-40-ish total following this thread, that's a pretty hardcore 1% sampling of a typical night at a UNH Men's Hockey game these days. That's a bigger (and arguably more relevant) slice of the sample than the political polls we're all reading about over these last few weeks. If there is a more relevant and easily available source of gauging the heartbeat of the UNH Hockey situation, then I'm all ears. And if the UNH AD and/or key admin folks with a say in the program don't monitor it from time to time, shame on them. It's easy access to instant feedback on the state of the school's most historically relevant (and profitable) athletics program. It's negligent if you're not paying attention.

To me letting someone know how you feel about something is the most proactive thing you can do. You have done your part and that's better than putting your thoughts on a message board assuming its being heard by the right people. You might not get the results you want or expect but to me, beats wishing and hoping...

I don't disagree, but it's not a zero sum game, you can do both if you so choose. I still don't think this excuses UNH's ignorance if they don't check in here from time to time to get the pulse and temperature of the program. I'm not saying, if (for example) e.cat demands that they upgrade the beer concessions at The Whitt, someone has to rush out and rework vendor contracts right away (being a patient guy, I'm sure e.cat would give them a few weeks to deal with it). But if you are the AD, it is your job to know as much as possible about how the product (yes, this is a business) is viewed by its customers. And if it's the "UNH Way" not to review and replace underperforming coaches from time to time, then please let us in on that, OK? I've been with Dan on this for a while ... if UNH doesn't act like they care, then why should we??

Ps...I don't care where Andrew Poturalski or Kevin Goumas play/have played. They made their mark here and if their NHL aspirations didn't exactly pay off, its ok. And if they did make a splash I'm sure there would be something to malign them with here, re, JvR complaints. You can look through a ton of ECHL/AHL rosters and see plenty of BU, BC, etc players who so far haven't broken into the big league too. I don't think its necessarily a reflection of the program (Frank Vatrano comes to mind he played for UMass as you know and at the time, they weren't exactly tearing it up.

It's funny, actually, that you mentioned JvR on this post. My point earlier was not to malign AP or KG, who were both obviously very talented kids when they played up here. Rather, it was to question the quality of the development they received from their coaches - whether it was from the end-of-career Coach Umile, or more recently from MS7 & Company. As in, if I'm a recruit (or a recruit's advisor) and I don't think UNH's staff is going to develop me (or my client) to meet future pro aspirations, they why should I go to UNH? I think it's fair to question if guys like AP or KG could have been better developed to play a better-rounded NHL-friendly game while here at UNH ... and likewise whether JvR could have eclipsed his good-but-not-great NHL career with better preparation from his UNH coaches during his two season stay?

Ironically, maybe the last guy at UNH who exceeded expectations at the pro level was none other than TvR, who (along with Brett Pesce) had the benefit of positional coaching from Jim Tortorella. Tortorella left after 2014. So did the final lingering successful years of the Umile Era. What MS7 could do with a talented and respected guy (whose brother happens to be a highly visible NHL head coach) like Tortorella, eh?

Imagine you're a talented top tier recruit with NHL aspirations, and your pick of programs ... why would you even consider playing at UNH now, when not only can you expect to play on a mediocre team that hasn't finished in the top half of the league for almost a decade now, but also to receive mediocre instruction from your coaches that won't really advance/develop your skills for your next stop? Quick answer - you don't. You let other kids who see D-1 as the likely end of the road for their on-ice hockey careers, who are there for the education piece primarily, but who also enjoy the perk of having a shot at regular ice time that they wouldn't get at a more competitive program. And guess what? That's exactly the kind of players UNH has been drawing during the MS7 Era. Not that there's anything wrong with that, at least not for the players who do come to play (and graduate) here.

But for the fans?? Fans accustomed to winning hockey under Charlie Holt and the majority of the Dick Umile Era??? If there has been some kind of philosophical change in weighing the importance of a successful Athletics operation in general at UNH - and specifically with Hockey - then please, just tell us, let us know. And maybe consider relocating the program to Atlantic Hockey while you're at it. JMHO.
 
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They don't fire coaches at UNH and that should be pretty darn plain. Doesn't mean anyone has to be happy about that fact, and doesn't mean you have to accept it either.

No idea how it works at UNH, but when you work for 25 years with the same people that you hired its hard to fire friends and your hires.
Not sure if the same applies to someone walking into a new place who didn't hire the people, has very little personal connection to them, and was hired specifically to "fix" the situation.
That there was no change made in the major spots late in the summer upon her hire doesn't tell me anything about her plans. What is she to do, make a symbolic gesture when the existing coaches already are under contract for the next year, and the available replacements have been snapped up? Just to show fans something?

No, you speak with the employees privately, send the message that the results are not impressive and nothing is guaranteed past this year, they will be evaluated. And publicly you support them to the max, so they have every chance to succeed.

Come March however, especially if the coaches' contracts are up, you put your stamp on the program.


As I mentioned, I wrote Ms. Rich a welcome note at her Princeton account when she was hired, with a gentle and pretty even-handed content that I was unhappy with the hockey program and some of my concerns about coaching. I didn't say anything about outcomes, just that it was background and a perspective she may not have heard during the hiring process.

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Dear Ms. Rich,

As a UNH Class of 87 alum, I want to congratulate you and welcome you to Durham. I grew up in Durham, though now I’m actually not in New Hampshire. As a UNH sports fan, particularly a lifelong follower of the hockey team, I am particularly excited about the hiring of new blood and the potential changes it might produce.
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The root cause of this is the hiring or a coach for the sole reason of former Coach Umile’s outsized reach within the program, and a myopic perspective that excluded qualified people from outside the UNH family (there were at least a half dozen or more plainly qualified assistants who had achieved success but who were not from the tight UNH circle. Each has since become head coaches elsewhere and have exhibited the initial recruiting results I had hoped UNH would have from a regime change. Sadly, the ready pool of high-achieving assistants has drained much the past 6 years, so finding the next hotshot seems to be a tad more difficult, but another season will permit the pool for replenish.) All of this with the men’s hockey program seems to mirror the decline in the women’s hockey program, though on that I have no insight. Combined with the lack of community outreach (to which I cannot speak, not being in NH) and other complaints that I understand you probably heard about during the hiring process, you will have a full plate.

I apologize if the above assessment that plainly suggest one solution sounds like a sports-talk radio screed. I’d like to think that I have a somewhat more-educated perspective, but it plainly is not an insider’s perspective. I can only hope that this email provides you with some thoughts to ask about when you are speaking to the broader non-UNH hockey community (I imagine the UNH-centered hockey people would dispute the above, or point to factors such as facilities, rather than personnel, as the cause of their lack of success.) I look forward to seeing change (from afar), and wish you good luck.
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I never heard back, so don't know if she received it. That's fine.

I'll hold off sending something to her new UNH account until we have more data in the spring. That's the beauty of the world, few things are impossible, so you can change the future even if the odds are against you. In the end, facts are facts, and eight years of very poor results, no prior positive results. If this year provides any promise for the future that might be a mitigating factor, but not sure how much. Let's let it play out. But after that, I'll certainly chime in with an email to Ms. Rich to ensure she has a full grasp of where the program sits, if she hasn't gleaned that in her first 9 months.

A final point on guessing about her perspective. She came from Princeton, where sports are secondary. But by the same token, when you are the head, and move to a non-Princeton environment, I have to assume the goal is not just to "make sure my resume shows I was good at keeping the status quo on the academic side." It is "my programs improved in wins and losses, and in revenues, and in donations, all while maintaining academic integrity." Making changes at non-productive programs the personnel of which you have no allegiance to seems like the barest of steps.

Raise funds to fix the locker rooms. Maybe save an extra million on top of the facilities budget to offer to a coach (Souza is @ $240 per year https://govsalaries.com/souza-michael-j-132412907 , so allocating $375 to $400 (an extra $150 per year) over 8 years.) That puts you in a significant upgrade class.
 
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There are over 14,000 views on the posts on this thread alone, so that's an average of 60 or so hits per post. Yes, like in most forums, there is a smaller segment that is more active, and a larger segment that is "lurking" (not sure if that term is used anymore?). Several might be from fans of other programs, just checking in ... but even if it's only 30-40-ish total following this thread, that's a pretty hardcore 1% sampling of a typical night at a UNH Men's Hockey game these days. That's a bigger (and arguably more relevant) slice of the sample than the political polls we're all reading about over these last few weeks. If there is a more relevant and easily available source of gauging the heartbeat of the UNH Hockey situation, then I'm all ears. And if the UNH AD and/or key admin folks with a say in the program don't monitor it from time to time, shame on them. It's easy access to instant feedback on the state of the school's most historically relevant (and profitable) athletics program. It's negligent if you're not paying attention.



I don't disagree, but it's not a zero sum game, you can do both if you so choose. I still don't think this excuses UNH's ignorance if they don't check in here from time to time to get the pulse and temperature of the program. I'm not saying, if (for example) e.cat demands that they upgrade the beer concessions at The Whitt, someone has to rush out and rework vendor contracts right away (being a patient guy, I'm sure e.cat would give them a few weeks to deal with it). But if you are the AD, it is your job to know as much as possible about how the product (yes, this is a business) is viewed by its customers. And if it's the "UNH Way" not to review and replace underperforming coaches from time to time, then please let us in on that, OK? I've been with Dan on this for a while ... if UNH doesn't act like they care, then why should we??



It's funny, actually, that you mentioned JvR on this post. My point earlier was not to malign AP or KG, who were both obviously very talented kids when they played up here. Rather, it was to question the quality of the development they received from their coaches - whether it was from the end-of-career Coach Umile, or more recently from MS7 & Company. As in, if I'm a recruit (or a recruit's advisor) and I don't think UNH's staff is going to develop me (or my client) to meet future pro aspirations, they why should I go to UNH? I think it's fair to question if guys like AP or KG could have been better developed to play a better-rounded NHL-friendly game while here at UNH ... and likewise whether JvR could have eclipsed his good-but-not-great NHL career with better preparation from his UNH coaches during his two season stay?

Ironically, maybe the last guy at UNH who exceeded expectations at the pro level was none other than TvR, who (along with Brett Pesce) had the benefit of positional coaching from Jim Tortorella. Tortorella left after 2014. So did the final lingering successful years of the Umile Era. What MS7 could do with a talented and respected guy (whose brother happens to be a highly visible NHL head coach) like Tortorella, eh?

Imagine you're a talented top tier recruit with NHL aspirations, and your pick of programs ... why would you even consider playing at UNH now, when not only can you expect to play on a mediocre team that hasn't finished in the top half of the league for almost a decade now, but also to receive mediocre instruction from your coaches that won't really advance/develop your skills for your next stop? Quick answer - you don't. You let other kids who see D-1 as the likely end of the road for their on-ice hockey careers, who are there for the education piece primarily, but who also enjoy the perk of having a shot at regular ice time that they wouldn't get at a more competitive program. And guess what? That's exactly the kind of players UNH has been drawing during the MS7 Era. Not that there's anything wrong with that, at least not for the players who do come to play (and graduate) here.

But for the fans?? Fans accustomed to winning hockey under Charlie Holt and the majority of the Dick Umile Era??? If there has been some kind of philosophical change in weighing the importance of a successful Athletics operation in general at UNH - and specifically with Hockey - then please, just tell us, let us know. And maybe consider relocating the program to Atlantic Hockey while you're at it. JMHO.

Chuck I do agree about your Jim Torts (can I call him that too?) comment; nobody coached defense like he did and that is for sure. Although I'd say it was a miracle given our 1 shot on goal stat in the 3rd that we hung on AND the fact that we were hemmed in quite a bit as well. So thinking the defense did a pretty decent job. As to your point in the last paragraph, and I know this isn't going to be received very well by a few here, complacency in the front office for sure has most likely led to where the program is today (duh). I thought things were GREAT when the FOH was going; could look forward to meeting with like minded people but gee I digress. And, I guess when you're winning like the 'Cats did no one really notices. Tell me, besides the FOH and guys like Greg Ambrose who created the history wall, was the front office that involved? Or did the program just meander along on its own...just curious.

I just hate to say (and do not agree with) that UNH is not a place that 'great players' want to come!! Even as a fan that didn't experience the 'hey day' that pains me greatly to say because I do believe it's a great place to play hockey. And it also isn't very kind to the players we have who I believe as I'm sure you all do are doing the best they can. I'm getting your point that winning and making it to NCAA's is important, playing in a bean pot is fun (see BvR) (sigh) but even great players leave 'great programs'. I have no idea why Robert Mastrisimone left BU to play his Sr. year at ASU but man is their social media strong about how that team with their new arena (the Coyotes played there last night??) and new found culture is booming.

Also going to drop Cale Makar in this category coming to UMass (before Carvel)...he surely had to know the present state of that program at the time and of course, the rest is history with the coaching change etc. But I will add and am sorry to say this but after how many seasons the same should be happening for us; you WANT to come to the U. Great education etc etc etc

I'd like to know why you think the AD isn't aware of the issue? Just because the ax hasn't fallen (yet)? I'll tell you this Marty knew it and said as much to me and a few others at the last event I attended that he was there..."its been too long" was his comment about UNH not being in the post season NCAA mix. They have to KNOW! But they are making the active choice to keep going with what they have; you know, the keep doing what you are doing and you'll keep getting what you're getting film loop. I think there's a settled attitude at the U that they are absolutely fine with and if there were 10 people watching games at the 'Whitt I am alarmed to say, I think they are fine with that, too, if I'm being totally honest. I hope, that changes. I know I'll still be there as one of the 10.
 
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If Souza was fired who would you hire? It’s easy to say fire the coach but it’s much harder to find someone better to replace him. I think spending the money to improve facilities would do much more for your program than getting a new coach.

How strong of candidate would Josh Ciocco have been? It seems like he really did a wonderful job at Merrimack.
 
If Souza was fired who would you hire? It’s easy to say fire the coach but it’s much harder to find someone better to replace him. I think spending the money to improve facilities would do much more for your program than getting a new coach.

I'd dispute the "much harder to find someone better to replace him" thought. He was a bad hire at the time (a number of us said so at the time, so its not second guessing), and his results have borne that out. I'd say "almost impossible not to find someone better to replace him."

First call, though I don't know that it fits into his plans which already have elevated him to the NHL, or the price (I assume he's outside the budget, but maybe commitment of years might be appealing). He has enough reputation as a talent developer that I would be comfortable he can attract talent. Whether he can coach????? I'd take the risk.

https://www.nhl.com/mapleleafs/news/...dy/c-325474388

Since his first season with the Steel, the Madison, Connecticut native has overseen 10 Steel alumni selected in the NHL Draft, including five from the 2019-20 roster, the most of any independent junior team that season.

Hardy joined the Steel from the Boston Bruins where he spent two seasons as an amateur scout. Prior to joining the Bruins, Hardy spent parts of four seasons (2013-2017) with USA Hockey's National Team Development Program, serving as Director of Player Personnel, Assistant Director of Player Personnel and Regional Scouting Manager during that time.

In addition to his work in scouting and player personnel, Hardy has coaching experience at the NCAA level with Sacred Heart University and Williams College, and at the junior hockey level with the Springfield Jr. Blues (NAHL).

8 years $3.5 million? That sounds steep, but bear in mind Souza has earned $2 million over his 8 years at UNH (ignoring side money). $3.5 mil ($437 per) is $200 more per year. Easy to say when you don't have a budget, but I wonder how much it would return on revenues. UNH is also free of state taxes, so the money is slightly advantaged over the contracts at other schools or an Ontario salary, and cost of living and housing is cheaper.

As to contract length, if UNH in practice will keep a new coach with horrible results for 8 years, why not commit to it in a contract up front. So rather than a less "guaranteed" five year or four year contract, why not tell the new guy "here's 8 years, X million and a budget to fix up the locker rooms."
Again, not seeing the budget, its easy to say crap like this, but I also wonder how much revenue has been lost due to the results (reducing the gap between the salaries). You have to invest money to make money.
 
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No idea how it works at UNH, but when you work for 25 years with the same people that you hired its hard to fire friends and your hires.
Not sure if the same applies to someone walking into a new place who didn't hire the people, has very little personal connection to them, and was hired specifically to "fix" the situation.
That there was no change made in the major spots late in the summer upon her hire doesn't tell me anything about her plans. What is she to do, make a symbolic gesture when the existing coaches already are under contract for the next year, and the available replacements have been snapped up? Just to show fans something?

No, you speak with the employees privately, send the message that the results are not impressive and nothing is guaranteed past this year, they will be evaluated. And publicly you support them to the max, so they have every chance to succeed.

Come March however, especially if the coaches' contracts are up, you put your stamp on the program.


As I mentioned, I wrote Ms. Rich a welcome note at her Princeton account when she was hired, with a gentle and pretty even-handed content that I was unhappy with the hockey program and some of my concerns about coaching. I didn't say anything about outcomes, just that it was background and a perspective she may not have heard during the hiring process.

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Dear Ms. Rich,

As a UNH Class of 87 alum, I want to congratulate you and welcome you to Durham. I grew up in Durham, though now I’m actually not in New Hampshire. As a UNH sports fan, particularly a lifelong follower of the hockey team, I am particularly excited about the hiring of new blood and the potential changes it might produce.
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The root cause of this is the hiring or a coach for the sole reason of former Coach Umile’s outsized reach within the program, and a myopic perspective that excluded qualified people from outside the UNH family (there were at least a half dozen or more plainly qualified assistants who had achieved success but who were not from the tight UNH circle. Each has since become head coaches elsewhere and have exhibited the initial recruiting results I had hoped UNH would have from a regime change. Sadly, the ready pool of high-achieving assistants has drained much the past 6 years, so finding the next hotshot seems to be a tad more difficult, but another season will permit the pool for replenish.) All of this with the men’s hockey program seems to mirror the decline in the women’s hockey program, though on that I have no insight. Combined with the lack of community outreach (to which I cannot speak, not being in NH) and other complaints that I understand you probably heard about during the hiring process, you will have a full plate.

I apologize if the above assessment that plainly suggest one solution sounds like a sports-talk radio screed. I’d like to think that I have a somewhat more-educated perspective, but it plainly is not an insider’s perspective. I can only hope that this email provides you with some thoughts to ask about when you are speaking to the broader non-UNH hockey community (I imagine the UNH-centered hockey people would dispute the above, or point to factors such as facilities, rather than personnel, as the cause of their lack of success.) I look forward to seeing change (from afar), and wish you good luck.
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I never heard back, so don't know if she received it. That's fine.

I'll hold off sending something to her new UNH account until we have more data in the spring. That's the beauty of the world, few things are impossible, so you can change the future even if the odds are against you. In the end, facts are facts, and eight years of very poor results, no prior positive results. If this year provides any promise for the future that might be a mitigating factor, but not sure how much. Let's let it play out. But after that, I'll certainly chime in with an email to Ms. Rich to ensure she has a full grasp of where the program sits, if she hasn't gleaned that in her first 9 months.

A final point on guessing about her perspective. She came from Princeton, where sports are secondary. But by the same token, when you are the head, and move to a non-Princeton environment, I have to assume the goal is not just to "make sure my resume shows I was good at keeping the status quo on the academic side." It is "my programs improved in wins and losses, and in revenues, and in donations, all while maintaining academic integrity." Making changes at non-productive programs the personnel of which you have no allegiance to seems like the barest of steps.

Raise funds to fix the locker rooms. Maybe save an extra million on top of the facilities budget to offer to a coach (Souza is @ $240 per year https://govsalaries.com/souza-michael-j-132412907 , so allocating $375 to $400 (an extra $150 per year) over 8 years.) That puts you in a significant upgrade class.

Excellent post and thanks for writing her. I bet she did indeed read your note. I think that if more of the 'UNH faithful' took the time to write, expressing what the program has meant to them over the years, and advocate for positive change using the tenets UNH is built on (Pride Excellence Tradition) that would be/could be powerful. I'm reminded of the words of Margaret Meade "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that has".

If you truly care about this program I urge you to make your feelings known. But please in the process if you can support the current team on the ice. They deserve that much IMHO. I see so many familiar faces still turning out for each game...everyone wants the program to succeed.

Scott is a good example of such a fan and UNH should be giving people like him their ear...and do WEIT to get more of them back in the seats.
 
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