UNH- How Far West Do We Go?

[Afterfurtherreview]

This game would most likely be played at Walter Brown

They played a game against Maine at UML... since they'll be on the road, maybe it would be played in Lowell. Nice venue and easy to get to.

 

[2013hockeyfan]

This game would most likely be played at Walter Brown

Where was the women's playoff game played between BU & NE? It listed BU as the home team despite NE being the #1 seed.

 

[Snively65]

McCloskey’s departure from UNH reminds me of Casey DeSmith, now only four games needed to tie Ty Conklin for UNH alums in NHL games played at 216.

 

[2013hockeyfan]

Some of that continues with the Athletic Department 50/50 and Merchandise and it goes into the general Athletics funds so it is no longer targeted to the hockey team it is spread around like butter (over too much bread).

I don't think 50/50 goes into general fund. Seems to be sponsored by a different group each game. I've noticed it sponsored and administered I think by the dance team at multiple games.

 

[Chuck Murray]

Gagne was 192nd overall pick in 2021 for Tampa. 6th round.

Don't forget Brett Pesce... 3rd rounder, 66th - so high 3rd rounder (?) kinda came out of no where, Juniors in the EJHL like TVR. That 2013-14 team had 2 future decade plus NHL D men on the roster with neither in there freshman year...

This is his 11th year after 3 at UNH. He also played 7 AHL games over 2 season so progressed pretty quickly. I always liked Pesce's game, not a big scorer but a really good defenseman. I do think Pesce had the luck of good timing, looking back that was a very good Carolina D in the making (Hainsey, Slavin, Hanifin, Faulk) with the first later in his career and the last 3 with Pesce all very early in there careers. That timing gave Pesce a chance with 3-4 spots for early 20 somethings and he did a good job of winning that spot playing like 80% of the games that year and never giving it back. (thanks Hockeydb - )

One correction (thanks Grouch) and one blatant oversight (JB) of arguably the most successful player to emerge from the latter years of the Umile Era. Oops!

I'd forgotten Gagne had gotten drafted, since TBL never offered him a pro deal. But no excuse for overlooking Pesce.

 

[Potluck]

Yet considering the player was an insolent and insubordinate pain in the ar$e for her entire entitled career up to that point, and knew the U backed her previously when Coach wanted to separate after a frosh season filled with similar insubordination ... in retrospect, a blowout like this was hardly surprising.

Buford, there really is no end to your stupidity. So you're the guy that hit his wife and said it's her fault for being irritating you, right? Well those of us that are civilized and walk around without our knuckles dragging on the ground recognize that McCloskey's firing had considerable merit.

Oh, if this player was such a problem for years on end, why not discipline her using other means or simply cut her from the team? Those are the things professional coaches do.

Let's also note that you don't know the story. You're the dumb guy allegedly with "sources" who has none. Nobody talks to a fool like you.

 

[Will]

Where was the women's playoff game played between BU & NE? It listed BU as the home team despite NE being the #1 seed.

It was at Walter Brown. The NEU women's team had Walter Brown designated as their predetermined site for all games in the postseason; they just happened to play BU. NEU wore their home jerseys and I believe they had last change, but BU got to sit on the home bench, likely due to their locker room being right behind it

 

[2013hockeyfan]

It was at Walter Brown. The NEU women's team had Walter Brown designated as their predetermined site for all games in the postseason; they just happened to play BU. NEU wore their home jerseys and I believe they had last change, but BU got to sit on the home bench, likely due to their locker room being right behind it

Very interesting, thank you. Appreciate the background.

Feel bad for these NEU teams, going to be a difficult few years. Worst for this years freshman class whose entire enrollment will effectively be homeless.

Have they made the same designation for men's games?

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

McCloskey’s departure from UNH reminds me of Casey DeSmith, now only four games needed to tie Ty Conklin for UNH alums in NHL games played at 216.

For goalies.

Rod Langway played 994 games in the NHL.

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

I don't think 50/50 goes into general fund. Seems to be sponsored by a different group each game. I've noticed it sponsored and administered I think by the dance team at multiple games.

Dance and/or Cheer Teams. No others.

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

Buford, there really is no end to your stupidity. So you're the guy that hit his wife and said it's her fault for being irritating you, right? Well those of us that are civilized and walk around without our knuckles dragging on the ground recognize that McCloskey's firing had considerable merit.

Oh, if this player was such a problem for years on end, why not discipline her using other means or simply cut her from the team? Those are the things professional coaches do.

Let's also note that you don't know the story. You're the dumb guy allegedly with "sources" who has none. Nobody talks to a fool like you.

Potroast:

Are you making libelous claims that Chuck beats his wife?

You're violating a line that shouldn't be crossed. We all have come to accept the vomitous ideas which you spew day in and day out here, but have some self awareness and know your audience when trying to make make a point.

The expectations we have for you here are subterranean at best. Resorting to claims of domestic abuse is low, even for you.

 

[JB]

Oh, if this player was such a problem for years on end, why not discipline her using other means or simply cut her from the team? Those are the things professional coaches do.

McCloskey cut the player. The family complained and the admin forced him to take her back and play her.

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

Oh, if this player was such a problem for years on end, why not discipline her using other means or simply cut her from the team? Those are the things professional coaches do.

In a professional league, sure. With the blessing of the GM and ownership.

But, since UNH is a state run organization, there are forces at play that that prevent total player accountability for behavior and conduct, i.e. risk mitigation and lawsuit avoidance.

 

[2013hockeyfan]

But, since UNH is a state run organization, there are forces at play that that prevent total player accountability for behavior and conduct, i.e. risk mitigation and lawsuit avoidance.

What "forces are at play" for roster management because UNH is a public school? The athletes aren't state employees. Please be specific as I'm not sure what you're referring to.

 

[Snively65]

For goalies.

Rod Langway played 994 games in the NHL.

Of course, for UNH goalies, which I did not think was necessary for me write. Duh.

And, why note Rod Langway’s 994 NHL games instead of the UNH alum all-time leader with 1134 NHL games and counting?

FWIIW, with two more games CdS will move into a tie with Adrien Plavsic for 22nd place on UNH alum all-time NHL games list at 214.

Next up for CDS after Plavsic and Conklin will be Bruce Crowder in 20th place with 243 NHL games.

As for the aforementioned Brett Pesce, he has moved ahead of Bob Gould and Steve Leach into fourth place on the UNH alum all-time NHL games list at 735 and counting, as has TvR now in fifth place with 731 NHL games and counting.

 

[Chuck Murray]

Oh, if this player was such a problem for years on end, why not discipline her using other means or simply cut her from the team? Those are the things professional coaches do.

Let's also note that you don't know the story. You're the dumb guy allegedly with "sources" who has none. Nobody talks to a fool like you.

Interesting you say that, cement head. Coach did try to remove her from his program after her frosh season. UNH admin wouldn't let him. Oh, the irony.

Nothing better than watching you railing on incessantly about "not knowing the story", then stepping in the deep doo-doo in the process. What a moron ...

 

[TheGrouchyCat]

What "forces are at play" for roster management because UNH is a public school? The athletes aren't state employees. Please be specific as I'm not sure what you're referring to.

College coaches are not independently empowered to make unilateral decisions when there is state and school policy at play.

Not sure what you don't understand. Think about your own employee and corporations guide/rule book and how to provides organizational policies, escalation methodologies for virtually every scenario.

Now complicate that when you factor in UNH is state run with oversight not only from administration in Durham, but also the USNH Chancellor, USNH Board of Trustees, NH Legislature, Executive Council and the Governor.

In this circumstance, UNH was trying to mitigate the risk of a lawsuit from player/parents, not to mention reputational damage to the school and women's program. It was irrelevant that the player had a history of certain behavior and that the coach tried to remove the previous season but was denied bu the school for unknown reasons (Title IX, perhaps?)

McCloskey acted inappropriately at a public event and paid the price publicly to protect UNH the institution.

 

[Chuck Murray]

As for the aforementioned Brett Pesce, he has moved ahead of Bob Gould and Steve Leach into fourth place on the UNH alum all-time NHL games list at 735 and counting, as has TvR now in fifth place with 731 NHL games and counting.

With TvR being a few years older than Pesce, and also being a valued bottom-pairing guy, I suspect he'll be neck-and-neck with Langway in the end as far as total NHL games played. Keep in mind that Langway also played half a season in the WHA in between his final UNH season, and winning his only Cup with Montreal.

Pesce could well overtake JvR at the top of this list someday, barring injuries. I do think he's probably suffering from a little buyer's remorse with New Jersey these last two seasons, at least on a competitive front, as injuries have crept in, and production (+/-) has begun to slip noticeably.

JvR has actually padded his lead over Pesce so far this season, largely avoiding injury, even if his offensive output is starting to fall off recently ...

 

[Chuck Murray]

Potroast:

Are you making libelous claims that Chuck beats his wife?

You're violating a line that shouldn't be crossed. We all have come to accept the vomitous ideas which you spew day in and day out here, but have some self awareness and know your audience when trying to make make a point.

The expectations we have for you here are subterranean at best. Resorting to claims of domestic abuse is low, even for you.

There has yet to be any line that this gutless puke hasn't stepped well over, Grouch. It's not the first time, either. But I take solace in the fact that folks like you and others on this board know better, and I absolutely revel in the FACT that we (and a few select others) know exactly who we are dealing with here.

... oh, and don't forget ... you don't have any sources, I don't have any sources, and actually no one but potty has sources lololol ...

 

[2013hockeyfan]

College coaches are not independently empowered to make unilateral decisions when there is state and school policy at play.

Not sure what you don't understand. Think about your own employee and corporations guide/rule book and how to provides organizational policies, escalation methodologies for virtually every scenario.

Now complicate that when you factor in UNH is state run with oversight not only from administration in Durham, but also the USNH Chancellor, USNH Board of Trustees, NH Legislature, Executive Council and the Governor.

In this circumstance, UNH was trying to mitigate the risk of a lawsuit from player/parents, not to mention reputational damage to the school and women's program. It was irrelevant that the player had a history of certain behavior and that the coach tried to remove the previous season but was denied bu the school for unknown reasons (Title IX, perhaps?)

McCloskey acted inappropriately at a public event and paid the price publicly to protect UNH the institution.

A coach at a private institution has virtually the same calculus in deciding whether to cut a player against the potential reputation impacts and litigation possibility. I was curious if you were aware of specific regulatory considerations for the coaches at UNH but as expected it was just nonsense.

Surely you will move the goalposts here in a reply.