Jacques "Rabbit" Poriveau
Post-coital
Re: UNH commitments/recruits for 2010 and beyond
So why ave dey not winned da NC?
So why ave dey not winned da NC?
Sorry that facts bother you or otherwise intrude on your reality. Here's another reality - Apart from Michigan's trio, the UNH coaching staff has been the only staff to stay the same since 2003. During that time, in your view, has UNH (1) progressed, (2) stayed the same, or (3) regressed?
Also, succesful coaches all have a "Coaching Tree" where they bring in young interns/volunteer assistants, and slowly incorporate them. Walsh, for example, has Greg Cronin, Bruce Crowder, Jay Leach, Red Gendron, etc. York has Paluch, Rolston while at BC. UNH has had no young former players as Volunteer assistants, other than Chris Bragnalo, who was administrative.
In both areas, the coaching staff is insular, having had a single perspective for the past 7 years, with no outside energy or voices. That is HIGHLY UNIQUE apart from Michigan, which I think we both can agree is different.
Snarkiness aside, I suspect our differences depend upon expectations. If you are happy with a program that is 10-16th in the country, but not likely to make the Final Four, then there's no need for "change."
If, however, you look at the thread on fan apathy, the drop in income to the program from lost season ticket holders, and a drop from being a FF candiate, then perhaps you can see an argument for changing something up.
My natural question then is how is Umile at recruiting, and the answer seems to be Assistant dependent. Look at the players Umile inherited during the two Kullen years before Umile, that he rode to the 92 NCAA appearance:
Adam Hayes
Scott Morrow
Steve Morrow
Frank Messina
Mark McGinn
Joe Flanagan
Savo Mitrovic
Domenic Amodeo (*)
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Pat Szturm
Chris Thayer
Matt Trenovich
Reil Bellegarde
Bill Lacouture
Bruce MacDonald
Pat Morrison
Adrien Plavsic
David MacIntyre
Kevin Dean
Chris Winnes
The look at who he added in the 1989-92 period:
Trent Cavicchi
Scott Robison
Erik Fitzgerald
Brian Putnam
Mike McCready
Sean Perry
Steve Pleau
Bryan Muir
Tom O'Brien
Mike Sullivan
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Cory Cash
Pat Norton
Nick Poole
Jeff Lenz
Eric Royal
Kent Schmidtke
Eric Flinton
Ted Russell
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Mike Guilbert
Rob Chebator
Jeff Levy
Rob Donovan
Scott Malone
Glenn Stewart
Jason Dexter
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Greg Blow
Jeff St.Laurent
Bret Abel
Greg Klym
Jesse Cooper
Kevin Thomson
Jim McGrath
My take away is that Umile inherited a very talented class, but then brought in lower talent, a lot from his blue collar Mass guys (Thomson, Chebator, Sullivan).
Suddenly, in 1992, a young assistant is brought in, and what do we have?
Erik Johnson
Joey Moran
Tim Murray
Brian Larochelle
Tom Nolan
Dean Woodman
Eric Boguniecki
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Dylan Dellezay
Trevor Amundrud
Mark Mowers
Erik Nickulas
Pat Bottino
Rob Gagnon
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Sean Matile
Ryan Bencurek
Chad Onufrechuk
Christian Bragnalo
Jason Krog
Derek Bekar
Brad Erbsland
Steve O'Brien
So, i come to the conclusion that Umile, by himself, is not that good a recruiter, with a preference for complementary hard workers from Mass burbs. The talent was brought in by others.
So, there is a need for a VERY GOOD recruiter. I'll leave it to you to answer whether we have that.
So, there is a need for a VERY GOOD recruiter. I'll leave it to you to answer whether we have that.
Speeking a recruting
So evury singel guy on de UNHs footballs team ad betteur academique credentials den Cam Reid? Evury singel one a dem guy?
I meen dey got in et e didnt so...
I find dat tres tres ard to beleeve.
I wonder if the hockey team burned some bridges with a couple of D-men that missed the spring semester their senior year because of grades.
Admissions might now be saying to the hockey team - you told us it wasn't going to be a problem and it was here and here it was, so why should we believe you?
reap what you sow...
And, a propos the recent issues, Amodeo was deferred from Kullen's first recruiting class (after an MVP/league leading scroer season with Henry Carr) by the admissions department.
Made it the second year.
The cynical part of me also wonders that while hockey has long been king at UNH, $carano desperately wants the football program to grow into the #1 sport. It's tough to build a money maker at the 1aa level in football, but those that do so, do very well. Hence all the talk about turning Cowell into a true "stadium," seating as many as 15k in some of the plans I've heard.
Could Athletics be pressuring Admissions to go easier on the football team these days?
Not sure exactly how much pull they have, but it's pretty much known that across the board (even at the Ivies), that athletes get a bit more leeway than the average student when it comes to admissions.
I wonder if the hockey team burned some bridges with a couple of D-men that missed the spring semester their senior year because of grades.
Admissions might now be saying to the hockey team - you told us it wasn't going to be a problem and it was here and here it was, so why should we believe you?
reap what you sow...
From what I've heard over the years (with other sports), this is entirely possible. You get a "break" from Admissions and the kid does well, you earn another "break" and maybe an additional one. If a kid with a "break", craps the bed, then you don't get that break again for awhile. If all the rest of your "breaks" do well, you redevelop the trust of Admissions.
I don't know what it is like with hockey, but I'm pretty sure a "break" for a football or basketball player is still well above the NCAA minimum standards. And that "break" had better be able to handle UNH academics independently because there isn't a support system like a BCS school can afford to put in place.
From a March 31st article in the Penticton Herald:His [Joey Laleggia] 'arrival' date is updated on Chissenberg's site for '11. Although his coach wanted him to stick around, he did indicate in an earlier interview that he was well suited for the college game. You just never know.. it does concern me just a little, because they also said TVR was being brought in to eventually run the PP.. of which Leleggia is doing a fine job of at least being on the that unit. It's likely the Coaches knew at the beginning if he'd be sticking around for another spin in the BCHL. Is he Draft eligible, I wonder? Downing too?
Joey Laleggia's prospects in the upcoming 2010 NHL Entry Draft (June 25-26) are also yet to be determined. His birthdate is June 24, 1992 so he meets the age requirement of turning 18 by September 15th. Although he was on the NHL Central Scouting "Players to Watch" list in October, 2009 (rated as a "C" prospect which means he has the potential to be a late round selection in the NHL draft) and participated in the Canadian Junior Hockey League's Prospects Event in December, 2009 (a game designed to showcase the top 40 NHL draft eligible players in the Canadian Junior Hockey League), Laleggia did not appear on the NHL Central Scouting's Final Rankings list released on April 7th. That is, Central Scouting did not consider him to be one of the top 210 NHL propects among North American skaters.
I have heard that Bob Norton had both Eruzione and Silk coming to UNH but couldn't get them past admissions. BU picked them up after they were denied from UNH.
There are however two versions from there, one that says Cox and Lumley (?)would have still been coming to UNH and one that says they only came because those two didn't get in so UNH went after them.
The ref was Jack Parker....
Did he swear and throw water bottles at himself that game?![]()
Watcher/HokyDad...
Was UNH ever in on recent Minnesota decommit Ryan Walters? He'd sure make a nice late addition/Reid replacement to a team in need of some offense next year...??
Mentioned in the BU thread that he had 35 DI offers at one point - was UNH one of those offers?
Is he a lock to stay in the WCHA??
http://www.bucshockey.com/leagues/r...&leagueID=12551&teamID=225322&playerID=557140