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UNH 2024/2025 Goldberg Edition

Well, boys & girls ... wasn't that fun?!? :) :( :o

Like watching a decent-but-well-coached AHL team against a bottom-of-the-barrel 'Coast league team. Ugh.

Was Player touted to be a significant can't-miss recruit? Not exactly breeding optimism for the future.

Even when UNH was trying to goon it up to get a spark for tomorrow night, they were abject.

Just ... wow ...
 
So, not impressive enough for a buy out at season’s end? What would that cost, north of a half million buckaroos?

If I win Powerball...ha! Actually after seeing BU lose 7-2 to North Dakota I don't feels so bad...To be honest I don't feel much of anything really about the result, but I sure
want to see a better game plan for tonight...

QU 4 UNH 1
 
All depends on how good an AD she is. We all (and she) knew Souza has no leverage, and there is plenty of reason to make give both a nominal "3-year" extension (for a vote of "confidence" and credibility with recruits) while including a very low buyout. Heck, there's no rules, so for all we know, it could be $1. Or $50,000, or $100K but credit for pay from scouting job he'd get from an NHL team. Or $50, but if his benefactor actually invests the promised $5 mil then its $300K buyout. Etc.
The fact that both underperforming coaches got the same "3-year" contract actually gives me comfort she was not snookered by any special allegiance to Souza.
If she made a buyout that was the same or worse than under his expired contract (1 year salary), so that Souza's deal is actually a 3-year deal, then she's incompetent.
I prefer to think she was competent. We don't need to address that after one loss yet. Let's re-convene after the season and find out where we stand.

(But just in case, hopefully AD made the trip to Q'pack and introduced herself to the Q'pack staff/Dumais. And also has Jared DeMichiel on speed dial.)
 
So, not impressive enough for a buy out at season's end? What would that cost, north of a half million buckaroos?

We've had lots of discussions about this over the last couple of seasons ... biggest misconception is that the school would have to pay the full future value of the contract. As usually the person being terminated early has an interest in having the freedom to consider the full range of alternate employment options, there is a negotiation once the employer puts their cards on the table (i.e. their desire to move on), which then might be followed by a "resignation" instead of a cold termination. IF there is no negotiation, then the school simply sidelines the existing HC, continues to pay their contracted salary on a weekly/monthly basis, and brings in the new person (on new terms) to do the actual HC job. The de facto terminated coach gets paid per the contract, but also cannot seek alternative employment until the contract expires. If s/he does get alternative employment, then the terms of the earlier contract with the school (in this case, UNH) would terminate as well. In general, there is usually a shared interest with the school and the ex-HC to work something out, and let both sides move on cleanly and quickly to the next step.

Every coaching situation has its own unique features ... ranging from the Umile "coach for life" situation, where (in retrospect) it was very clear there was some substance to that classification, agreed to initially with AD Judy Ray, and then conveniently inherited by our old pal Blue Skies, who was befriended by/beholden to the HC, who tried to "land that plane" by allowing Umile to have one final "extension", PLUS final say on a replacement ... to the Women's Hockey situation, where UNH had just signed McCloskey to a long extension, experienced "buyer's remorse" in short order, and then cruelly manufactured/leveraged a blown-out-of-all-proportion "incident" to support his separation, while threatening him with criminal prosecution for "assault" to force him to accept a pennies-on-the-dollar buyout. The current situation would be more moderate than either of those extreme examples/outcomes ... but who knows what's in the contract? "The devil is in the details" no doubt.

'Watcher has (rightly) been playing it coy on this issue, exactly because none of us really know the exact details. Is it a 3 year deal, or 3 one year deals? The first option has always seemed overly generous, under the circumstances, so maybe it is indeed the latter. This allows UNH and MS7 to talk publicly in good faith about a 3 year commitment (not sure either has to date, either, except through proxies?) which works so as not to hamstring/lame duck MS7 on the recruiting trails, and tamps down the otherwise annual speculation on his job status ... but if MS7 signed all three of those contracts, yet UNH is only signing them on a year-to-year basis based on performance of the previous season, then both sides got something they were looking for last Spring. MS7 gets more time to develop on last year's winning team (plus more time to explore post-UNH options if he struggles to repeat last season's limited success) ... and UNH gets more leverage to cut things short if MS7 returns to (poor) form.

I think one of our posters (IIRC ATW, apologies if it's someone else) filed a FOIA equivalent to get some disclosure on MS7's new deal, as he'd gotten similar disclosure on his previous deal(s). We wait eagerly for those disclosures ...
 
After that debacle of a loss the Freddie Freeman walk off grand salami to beat the hated yanks made my day! Haha
 
Food for discussion, his previous deal was if UNH terminated him (without cause) within the term of the contract he had to be given a 30 day notice then would be paid 12 months salary as his buyout.
 
That was a horror show of epic proportions.

Same deer in the headlights look from MS7 after the dismantling at Orono last year in the Quarters.
 
Uggglllyyy. Seriously it would be one thing if we were a team with alot of new players. I knew QU would be out for blood after last weekend but the total lack of game plan was horrific.

NOT acceptable.

And, that is the scary thing. This is an experienced team which should be punching above its weight.
 
And, that is the scary thing. This is an experienced team which should be punching above its weight.

Also..what I'm pizzed about is just how unprepared this team always seems to be on the first night of a 2 game series. Just not ready to play. Can't adjust to what's thrown at them. Harrumph.

win or lose 'Cats let's put out something decent tonight!
 
Also..what I'm pizzed about is just how unprepared this team always seems to be on the first night of a 2 game series. Just not ready to play. Can't adjust to what's thrown at them. Harrumph.

win or lose 'Cats let's put out something decent tonight!

When the coach is scared, the players play scared.
 
Time for UNH to put on their big boys pants if they want to continue to compete in the upper echelon of college hockey. Maine is paying Barr $425K...$440K in 25-26, $455K in 26-27 and $470K in 27-28. Is UNH willing or able to pony up to bring in a high caliber coaching candidate? You can be a Maine or be a Vermont. Your choice.
 
Time for UNH to put on their big boys pants if they want to continue to compete in the upper echelon of college hockey. Maine is paying Barr $425K...$440K in 2026-2027 and $470K in 2027-2028. Is UNH willing or able to pony up to bring in a high caliber coaching candidate? You can be a Maine or be a Vermont. Your choice.

It's pretty clear that choice has already been made.
 
Will give props to Marty Lavins last night..Best player on the ice. And it was obvious the difference Conmy makes. Both players hopefully stay with the program.
 
Time for UNH to put on their big boys pants if they want to continue to compete in the upper echelon of college hockey. Maine is paying Barr $425K...$440K in 25-26, $455K in 26-27 and $470K in 27-28. Is UNH willing or able to pony up to bring in a high caliber coaching candidate? You can be a Maine or be a Vermont. Your choice.

Barr isn't a good example of the bolded/italic. You're quoting his SECOND contract. He came to Maine for a salary less than 260k...

https://www.bangordailynews.com/202...h-barr-receives-four-year-contract-extension/

UNH could certainly 'bring in a high caliber coach' - whether they'd take a significant step to prevent him being poached after proven success would be a more relevant question based on your information. Personally, I'd be thrilled with either Souza or 'the next guy' establishing some proven success. Ill worry about whether UNH needs to pay up on a second contract or make a second-consecutive strong hire at that time...
 
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