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UNH 2021 Off-Season Thread: Finally!?!

So, preaseason Hockey East 21-22 rankings

1.BC
2.BU
3.Northeastern
4.Providence
5a.U.Mass
5b.U.Conn
7.UNH
8.U.Mass-Lowell
9.Merrimack
10.Maine
11.Vermont

BC lost all its top players. No way are they the favorites. Zero chance.

1. Umass
2. BU
3. PC
4. NU
5. BC
6. UConn
7. UML
8. UNH
9. Merrimack
10. maine
11. Vermont
 
BC lost all its top players. No way are they the favorites. Zero chance.

1. Umass
2. BU
3. PC
4. NU
5. BC
6. UConn
7. UML
8. UNH
9. Merrimack
10. maine
11. Vermont

BC may have lost all its top players, but as our friends from The Heights always used to remind us ... "they don't rebuild, BC just reloads". Probably not the favorites, but not 5th place either.

Here's my entirely untrained, recruiting-blind "just because" picks, top to bottom:

1. UMass
2. BU
3. BC
4. NU
5. UMass Lowell
6. PC
7. UConn
8. UMaine
9. Merrimack
10. UNH
11. Vermont

Regular season standings. We can only hope that HEPI is a thing of the past ...
 
Congratulations to Coach Hubbard and the UNH Men's Soccer program, who have now won their 3rd straight America East championship with an undefeated record (8-0-1), and will again be moving into the NCAA's. Winning begets winning, and Coach Hubbard is a winner - he's been a winner everywhere he's played, and everywhere he's coached. None of that happens by accident.

He's become the Vince Lombardi of New Hampshire soccer. Hopefully UNH ID's his hockey counterpart.
 
Congratulations to Coach Hubbard and the UNH Men's Soccer program, who have now won their 3rd straight America East championship with an undefeated record (8-0-1), and will again be moving into the NCAA's. Winning begets winning, and Coach Hubbard is a winner - he's been a winner everywhere he's played, and everywhere he's coached. None of that happens by accident.

He's become the Vince Lombardi of New Hampshire soccer. Hopefully UNH ID's his hockey counterpart.

Caught most of the game yesterday! Good for them...was interesting to hear the 'cheers' that we hear at hockey game; kind of made me sad we couldn't attend any games this season but, oh well. Wishing them the best moving forward. You are right; they know how to win...
 
Caught most of the game yesterday! Good for them...was interesting to hear the 'cheers' that we hear at hockey game; kind of made me sad we couldn't attend any games this season but, oh well. Wishing them the best moving forward. You are right; they know how to win...

But still they are good at play, ups and down happen with every team. :)
 
Congratulations to Coach Hubbard and the UNH Men's Soccer program, who have now won their 3rd straight America East championship with an undefeated record (8-0-1), and will again be moving into the NCAA's. Winning begets winning, and Coach Hubbard is a winner - he's been a winner everywhere he's played, and everywhere he's coached. None of that happens by accident.

He's become the Vince Lombardi of New Hampshire soccer. Hopefully UNH ID's his hockey counterpart.

Just posted this video link on another thread, before realizing how it also fits with my recent post.

Keep up the great work, Coach Hubbard. And to MS7 and BS+infinity, pay close attention ...
 
I never want to begrudge anyone the opportunity to earn a good living, so I'll take a pass on most of the salary-related data posted on the other thread (thanks Dan and 'Watcher for bringing it to my attention, though). If MS7 was coaching winning and entertaining hockey, I'm all in. He's obviously not earning what his predecessor was making, even 10 years ago, which should be making BS+infinity and his auditors (per Darius' link) happy campers.

However, the idea my best bud Luce from Storrs is making more than all but Leaman, York and Bazin did grab my attention in a less ambivalent way. Good for him, I suppose. But, wow.
 
I never want to begrudge anyone the opportunity to earn a good living, so I'll take a pass on most of the salary-related data posted on the other thread (thanks Dan and 'Watcher for bringing it to my attention, though). If MS7 was coaching winning and entertaining hockey, I'm all in. He's obviously not earning what his predecessor was making, even 10 years ago, which should be making BS+infinity and his auditors (per Darius' link) happy campers.

However, the idea my best bud Luce from Storrs is making more than all but Leaman, York and Bazin did grab my attention in a less ambivalent way. Good for him, I suppose. But, wow.

Well, the kicker was the cost of living discussion relative to school's claims that they cannot afford to hire effective, experienced coaches/staffs relative to other programs. In terms of both budget and meeting quality coach demands...

Cost of living makes Souza's salary awfully competitive - the equivalent of 523,000 in Boston dollars. Umile's even more so. Which doesn't even include the most interesting point - and the one that caught my attention - the lack of state taxes in NH and how that changes the comparison between the salary UNH can offer relative to 'larger' programs...

All of this renforces the conclusion that any idea UNH (or Maine) has to 'settle' is out the window. Simply put, they can certainly afford an attractive salary for a coach who will win, if they've been more than happy giving one to coaches who have not...
 
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Well, the kicker was the cost of living discussion relative to school's claims that they cannot afford to hire effective, experienced coaches/staffs.

Cost of living makes Souza's salary awfully competitive - the equivalent of 523,000 in Boston dollars. Umile's more so. The conclusion is the idea that UNH has to settle is out the window, they can certainly afford an attractive salary for a coach who will win if they've been more than happy giving one to coaches who have not...

Agreed, it's definitely a competitive salary, so no bellyaching about that. FWIW my understanding is MS7 lives in Portsmouth, which is not quite Boston dollars, but it's a lot closer to Boston dollars than Bangor dollars these days. You get a few minutes away from Portsmouth, and the cost of living index drops pretty sharply in some of the nearby NH and Maine communities. In certain parts of the downtown, Portsmouth may as well be Boston, to some degree.

I think you and I tend to agree, there's a lot of noisy BS excuse-making when it comes to what certain schools/programs can offer their coaches. On top of the even more ludicrous "we need the ______ to be improved/changed so we can recruit effectively". Just win, baby.
 
Agreed, it's definitely a competitive salary, so no bellyaching about that. FWIW my understanding is MS7 lives in Portsmouth, which is not quite Boston dollars, but it's a lot closer to Boston dollars than Bangor dollars these days. You get a few minutes away from Portsmouth, and the cost of living index drops pretty sharply in some of the nearby NH and Maine communities. In certain parts of the downtown, Portsmouth may as well be Boston, to some degree.

I think you and I tend to agree, there's a lot of noisy BS excuse-making when it comes to what certain schools/programs can offer their coaches. On top of the even more ludicrous "we need the ______ to be improved/changed so we can recruit effectively". Just win, baby.

Certainly, but whether we're talking Maine or NH the coach gets to choose where they live. Cost of living advantage in Maine would go out the window if their hire decided to live in Bar Harbor and commute to Orono. They could also pursue a much more affordable town in which to live. My comparison was Durham to Boston, in an attempt to cut out variables.

Also, I edited my post above to reflect what really caught my attention on the ME thread - NH's tax advantages...

Bottom line, yes, the excuses from the department just do not hold water - but that's business, so of course they'll make them. It drives me nuts, however - even in the case of an arch-rival like Maine - to see fans perpetuate that myth FOR the administrations. I'll never understand it.
 
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Nitpicking, but we do have high property taxes in NH.

Based on MS7's published salary, he's saving at least $20K annually on NH state income taxes (0%) from what he'd be paying in most other New England states, including those where he grew up (MA) and coached (CT/RI) prior to coming back to UNH. That savings would grow to closer to $30K annually if he were coaching/residing in ME. There's also that no sales tax thingie, saving him a little bit more.

If his property taxes exceed those figures, MS7 is living large. As Dan points out, it's his choice.

/nitpicking :-)
 
Any updates on potential transfer portal activity (thin excuse to get this back to Page 1)?

The USHL season ended, and UNH recruit Robert Cronin ended up in 10th place, the first since Charlie Kelleher finished 10th in 2016-17 (as an 18 year old), Andrwe Poturalski 6th in 2013-14. Former UNH recruit Matt White finished 4th in 2010, Phil DeSimone 2nd in 2007, Trevor Smith 3rd in 2005, Jake Micfliker 5th in 2003, and finally Mark Mowers 3rd in 1994.

Recruit Will Margel is 11th in NAHL scoring, even though he joined the league late after getting cut again from the USHL. He is intriguing.
Jack Ring, a project when recruited, had a limited offensive year as a 20 year old, with only 7 goals, after 3 goals last year.
Connor Sweeney, similarly a big project when recruited, has not had productivity in his career.
Ring and Sweeney, as 20 year olds, have no junior eligibility left, so would have to come this fall.

John Evans joined the USHL mid year, but had a hard time cracking top line duty, so only had 9 points in 22 games, and finished the year with a string of DNPs. He started the year in the BC league, with 15 points in 13 games.

Defenseman Alex Gagne was 13th in defenseman scoring, and finished second in +/-. Fellow USHL defenseman Colton Huard finished 4th in +/-.
Defenseman Nick Ardanaz has not been impactful as I had hoped during the past BCHL season that started 3 weeks ago. Only 4 assists, 3 on the PP, in his 14 games, after having 1-6-7 in 13 games this fall.

Evans and Ardanaz were thought to be part of the 2021 class based on their talent levels, which are high end, but with the chopped season and the potential Eric McAdams returns with a 5th year of eligibility, they may want a normal junior year to grow. They could clearly contribute next year, but in limited learning roles. A guess by another fan is that, with UNH's defensive struggles, bringing in Huard as a defensive guy, they may also want to go with Alex Gagne, a bigger, less puck moving D. He played a lot better this year than expected, and may have leapfrogged over Ardanaz, particularly with UNH's needs. (They have Eriksson, Reid and Verrier/McKinnon as sub-6' guys).

One also could imagine a scenario where last year's true freshmen, Cafarelli and Richels, might be encouraged to play a year in juniors to work on their weaknesses.

Rookie Defenseman Damien Carfagna, a 2022 recruit, had a solid freshman year, with 18 points and +13 while seeing no powerplay duty.

With no news on UNH lining up a replacement for Robinson, and with Taylor not getting a landing spot yet, I think there's a real possibility they both return, for better or worse.

Sr.Ward----------Sr.Pierson--------Sr.McAdams
Sr.Stevenson----Sr.Engaras-------So.Gendron
Fr.Cronin--------Jr.Hermann-------So.Cafarelli
Sr.Richels-------Fr.Margel---------Sr.Esposito
Fr.Sweeney-----Sr.Cippolone------Jr.Hankinson
Fr.Ring---------
[out - Crookshank, Kelleher, Grasso, Sato, in --- Cronin, Margel, Sweeney, Ring, possible Evans & Turner]

Jr.Eriksson------So.Reid
Sr.MacKinnon---Sr.Verrier
Fr.Huard--------So.Jenson
Fr.Gagne-------Sr.Semandel
Sr.Hickey
[out- Maass, Nagle, in -- Huard, Gagne, possible Ardanaz]
 
With no news on UNH lining up a replacement for Robinson, and with Taylor not getting a landing spot yet, I think there's a real possibility they both return, for better or worse.

I don't know if I should laugh or cry at this possible turn of events.

Robinson, I can see. San Jose isn't too enthused (I'm not even sure they still have draft rights at this age?), and there's no shortage of space-filling goalies out there who can post a save percentage over .900, so unless Robinson is in a big hurry to check out the sights and destinations in the ECHL (a la Tirone), UNH gives him a good option to try to at least re-establish himself as an AHL guy with potential upside.

Taylor ... not so sure. If Robinson is coming back, why would Taylor do so as well? We've seen that movie (several times) already, and Taylor only gets a bit part in that one. Throw in the current portal adventure, and the curious situation late last season where Taylor apparently scrubbed his mask clean of UNH markings ... and there's some humiliating "walking back" stuff, on top of him knowing where he stands with the coaching staff (fire extinguisher - break glass in case of emergency). Unless it's an education-based decision, one would think he'd rather be ABUNH?

If Robinson doesn't come back, and Taylor can reconcile things with MS7 & Co., then I can see him returning AND playing. But that's the part where I'm not sure I'm either laughing or crying. Other than a small handful of decent games towards the end of his soph season, I don't think we've seen Taylor perform as a legit D-1 keeper for three seasons now. Only the most blindly optimistic among us would expect him to suddenly emerge as a senior (or junior IF last season was a freebie), after the rest of the programs participating in the portal also passed on him.

It would make for a great story, sure, if Taylor found the road to redemption at UNH.

Otherwise, I can't think of a bigger UNH "bust" of a goalie prospect during the HEA era ...
 
Otherwise, I can't think of a bigger UNH "bust" of a goalie prospect during the HEA era ...

Rich Burchill. the #121 NHL pick, goalie of the future who, as a freshman, couldn't get significant playing time from walk-on Greg Rota (.880 save percentage, 5.26 GAA), and then got arrested the summer of his sophomore year for breaking and entering during the summer USA festival in Houston. Was permitted back on squad where as a soph he posted a 6.00 GAA and .854 GAA, before being permanently thrown off the team for vandalism/urinating in public at the Durham Grange.

From what I understand, he righted himself personally, enrolled at Northeastern and had a solid senior year. He even had one year in the ECHL
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/...y.php?pid=7813
 
The only goalie left in the portal worth taking a chance on would be NU's Connor Murphy. Otherwise, it's slim pickings...

https://www.eliteprospects.com/playe.../connor-murphy

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I don't love the look of Watcher's roster above - at best that looks like another 8th-place finish, with the floor being last place depending on how UVM's house cleaning turns out...

If they're not going to use the portal to turn over the roster, than bring in every young talent (Gagne, Ardanaz, Turner, Evans) in the pipeline you can and give them immediate experience (even if it means taking some lumps) for a breakthrough season 1-2/3 years in the future.

The constant cycle of too little impact/experienced talent is killing the program. For some reason, UNH seems to think they're consistently on the verge and nothing needs to change but the rink size - when in reality they need to take a LONG look at how they've recruited and managed the roster for the past decade, because its been abysmal.

UNH isn't winning next year - start grouping some actual ability and maybe that will pay off when they're all on the roster, together, as juniors and seniors. Keep spacing out the true talents, keep spacing out their development and experience and you'll keep finishing 8th, keep losing money, fans and interest, and you ensure that any potential turn around gets more difficult, further away and less likely...
 
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