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UNH 2020 Off-Season Thread: That Rinky-Shrinky Thang And Other Lively Banter :D

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Depressing being on the outside looking in...again. To think we almost UML'd BC....sigh. Predict: UML pulls the upset of the season and becomes the next HE champion, giving them yet another HE title and a bid to the NCAA's. Just when you think Norm is slippin'.....
 
Depressing being on the outside looking in...again. To think we almost UML'd BC....sigh. Predict: UML pulls the upset of the season and becomes the next HE champion, giving them yet another HE title and a bid to the NCAA's. Just when you think Norm is slippin'.....

Meanwhile, JvR posted six SOG against the Rangers last evening. :-)
 
Depressing being on the outside looking in...again. To think we almost UML'd BC....sigh. Predict: UML pulls the upset of the season and becomes the next HE champion, giving them yet another HE title and a bid to the NCAA's. Just when you think Norm is slippin'.....

(Holding my hand up) Yup I'm one of those "Is Norm slipping?" doubters. Or maybe "was".

I personally think BC got screwed last night (yes, that's me saying that), but still, coming from 3 goals back late in the game to eventually win in 2OT? Why can't UNH ever seem to do that??

Suspect we all have theories on "why not" on that last bit. But kudos to Bazin regardless.

He wrecked what was looking like a great evening of predictions for me.

I do still think UMass wins the Lamoriello for their first time this weekend, though.
 
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New Hampshire goaltender Ty Taylor, a Tampa Bay Lightning draft pick, has entered the transfer portal. Taylor started 2 of 23 games this season.

In retrospect, hardly surprising. His lack of playing time this season was inexplicable.

Robinson has been a fairly steady and decent goalie, but not to the level where his back-up shouldn't have seen more time between the pipes in game settings. It's not like Taylor forced the issue with his own less-than-stellar play - just as had been the case with Robinson himself trying to earn more playing time when Tirone was the lead dog - but Taylor was a junior, while Robinson was still only a soph when Tirone was a senior. But clearly MS7 didn't trust Taylor. And considering that Taylor was another one of "his guys", it makes you either question MS7's talent analysis as a recruiter (of course understanding not everyone gets everything right, but ... ) OR leaves you wondering what happened between player and coach over the last three seasons?

Say what you will about Coach Umile (and Lord knows, I've had lots of pros and cons) ... but his "transfer outs" didn't ever become a big issue, while the impression here is that transfer outs and early departures have increased under his successor. I know Umile didn't have the "transfer portal" to deal with during his time, but for the most part - for better or for worse - it seemed like his players had a clear understanding of what their career arc was going to look like, followed it, and played it out. Is it my imagination (could be?) OR are things just getting more and more unstable under MS7?
 
Say what you will about Coach Umile (and Lord knows, I've had lots of pros and cons) ... but his "transfer outs" didn't ever become a big issue, while the impression here is that transfer outs and early departures have increased under his successor.... Is it my imagination (could be?) OR are things just getting more and more unstable under MS7?

Umile's talent drain was from players who never made it on campus. There was the standard academic issues (Yandle, Matt White), the non-standard academic issues (Cam Reid), and the jilted at the alter (Ryan Bourque, Dan Kolomatis). The final blow was when his base, the fellow-Italians, turned on him (Vecchione, Laleggia).
 
Question, will Ty Taylor have to sit out a year given he's not a Senior looking for a post grad op? Or, he has the credits to graduate early, like BvR did?
 
He likely gets a free transfer per the NCAAs COVID response, plus pending legislation that will allow one time transfers anyway...

Wonder if he ends up with his brother at Clarkson. Their FR goalie was solid, but they have a recent history of taking struggling transfers and turning them into legit frontline goalies...
 
If White, Reid and Bourque make it to campus is UNH still a hockey power? I think the answer just might be yes...
 
He likely gets a free transfer per the NCAAs COVID response, plus pending legislation that will allow one time transfers anyway...

Wonder if he ends up with his brother at Clarkson. Their FR goalie was solid, but they have a recent history of taking struggling transfers and turning them into legit frontline goalies...

I hope he is able to have a great Senior year wherever he ends up....best wishes TyT!
 
My thoughts on possible scenarios:

1. If Robinson is indeed coming back as a fifth-year senior, it will be with the understanding that he will be the go-to goalie for next year's (hopefully) full 34-game regular season. That's a lot on one goalie's shoulders.

2. Souza and Co. already have eyes on someone to fill Ty's spot if he does transfer (but wouldn't we know of this by now, unless they're waiting for some "big announcement"?)

3. Both Robinson and Taylor are gone, and Jeremy Forman becomes the default starting goalie next season with one or two walk-on's-to-be-named later. Insert scary emoji here.


I sure would like to understand how a "master recruiter" doesn't develop the talent that he gets....or how an NHL-drafted goalie somehow struggled to regularly make the starting lineup of a middlin' D-1 hockey team.....
 
My thoughts on possible scenarios:

1. If Robinson is indeed coming back as a fifth-year senior, it will be with the understanding that he will be the go-to goalie for next year's (hopefully) full 34-game regular season. That's a lot on one goalie's shoulders.

2. Souza and Co. already have eyes on someone to fill Ty's spot if he does transfer (but wouldn't we know of this by now, unless they're waiting for some "big announcement"?)

3. Both Robinson and Taylor are gone, and Jeremy Forman becomes the default starting goalie next season with one or two walk-on's-to-be-named later. Insert scary emoji here.


I sure would like to understand how a "master recruiter" doesn't develop the talent that he gets....or how an NHL-drafted goalie somehow struggled to regularly make the starting lineup of a middlin' D-1 hockey team.....

All intriguing points Scott...esp the last one. Surely there are going to be goalies looking for a new home but what concerns me is your point about why a player with Taylor's credentials wouldn't be utilized to their full potential???

As if UNH fans didn't have enough to keep them up at night....sigh.
 
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My thoughts on possible scenarios:3. Both Robinson and Taylor are gone, and Jeremy Forman becomes the default starting goalie next season with one or two walk-on's-to-be-named later. Insert scary emoji here.

Only if Souza also plans to immolate himself at center ice to start the year.


2. Souza and Co. already have eyes on someone to fill Ty's spot if he does transfer (but wouldn't we know of this by now, unless they're waiting for some "big announcement"?)

Graduate transfers who can't be announced yet. Or a Euro. But with only a limited window with Baliotti and Muszalik now lined up for 2022 and 2023, that's unlikely.

I sure would like to understand how a "master recruiter" doesn't develop the talent that he gets....or how an NHL-drafted goalie somehow struggled to regularly make the starting lineup of a middlin' D-1 hockey team.....

Ask Nate Leaman, who took Jake Kucharski a couple of spots ahead of Taylor in the 2018 draft, and he never saw the ice there, and barely at AIC this year. Or Red Gendron, who has Matt Thiesen taken in the same round, but barely seeing ice for them (maybe that makes the opposite point?) Or Jared Moe, picked the round before, who is a backup for Minn. Or Logan Neaton, picked in 2019 who doesn't play for Lowell.

(And Devon Levi didn't see the ice for Northeastern this year ;))
 
Ask Nate Leaman, who took Jake Kucharski a couple of spots ahead of Taylor in the 2018 draft, and he never saw the ice there, and barely at AIC this year. Or Red Gendron, who has Matt Thiesen taken in the same round, but barely seeing ice for them (maybe that makes the opposite point?) Or Jared Moe, picked the round before, who is a backup for Minn. Or Logan Neaton, picked in 2019 who doesn't play for Lowell.

(And Devon Levi didn't see the ice for Northeastern this year ;))

So what you're saying is perhaps these goalies are overrated before they arrive on campus? Ty did show flashes of brillance last season when he was given the opportunity to start. I would have thought that with this year's abbreviated season, Souza would have considered platooning both goalies. No sure as to how Ty somehow seemed to be in Souza's "doghouse".
 
Umile's talent drain was from players who never made it on campus. There was the standard academic issues (Yandle, Matt White), the non-standard academic issues (Cam Reid), and the jilted at the alter (Ryan Bourque, Dan Kolomatis). The final blow was when his base, the fellow-Italians, turned on him (Vecchione, Laleggia).

It's just not cricket when paisan don't honor their blood oaths ... or so I've heard, anyway.
 
So what you're saying is perhaps these goalies are overrated before they arrive on campus? Ty did show flashes of brillance last season when he was given the opportunity to start. I would have thought that with this year's abbreviated season, Souza would have considered platooning both goalies. No sure as to how Ty somehow seemed to be in Souza's "doghouse".

Maybe something happened, or maybe someone said something? It's not like Robinson was playing lights out, any more than Tirone was prohibitively so good that Robinson couldn't catch a break. But then again, like when Robinson would routinely spit the bit whenever Tirone left the door of opportunity ajar for him ... Taylor did the same when Robinson's poor play gave TT an opportunity. So maybe the kid just blew it, plain and simple? I know my narrative was often that MS7 was leaning heavily on Robinson, perhaps coaching like his job depended upon it, but whereas Taylor would come up with some decent showings as a soph, his junior year was pretty much a total waste.

Plus his lack of customized UNH helmet markings, I guess that actually ended up being a tell after all?

TT was an MS7 recruit, there's no reason to think MS7 wouldn't have given him a chance if he earned/deserved it, so I guess I'll err on the side of it being a recruiting mistake. It just never worked out, for the player or the program. It's happened before, it'll happen again. Too bad, we move on ...
 
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